ATB 'P' Mint Mark Coin Thread

[ChoiceBU]

Not against stacking, but it's not everyone's goal. For those of us who might like to have proof collectibles, the Mint decided not to provide them in the ATB 5 oz park series, instead offering the overpriced sand blasted version that now has been messed up with variations on "coverage" of the material they use. That's why some of us are trying to get the best bullion examples. Graded coins can be a way to accomplish that, but not necessarily as some raw coins are nice enough.

[MrLucky]

Keep stacking gold, that is where the world psyche is heading...

I wholeheartedly agree with you. I just got distracted by the ATB series.

[ChoiceBU]

Gold is good - got some. But this is the ATB thread...;)

[Deweydog]

Gold is good - got some. But this is the ATB thread...;)

Got a couple ATB myself, a dose of gold talk is good for the silver threads...hard not to be giddy when you been stacking as long as I have been....:shine:

[cpthnsolo]

Minor variations like these are at the whim of the market place, don't get caught up in the BS hype....In the end, they will melt the same...

I'm certainly not arguing your point, but diversifying one's stack is a win-win IMO. I personally feel the majority of your stack should be in Au bullion and 90% silver, but I think it's wise to buy the occasional semi-numi coin if the premium makes sense. Paying $1000 simply because something is hot (like the light finish GC coin) is a fool's bet IMO. However sometimes it's worth just a tad of risk for the positive numismatic potential that modern mint products offer. Some people like to gamble their money away in Vegas or on lotto tickets. I do my gambling with semi-numi stuff instead ;).

[HistoryStudent]

For my friends. No matter what you buy as long as it is in precious metals gold silver platinum you'll do fine. Buy as close to spot as possible but add the
slabbing (NGC/PCGS and maybe ANACS) if that your TYPE of thing - it is mine - for in the future the sheeple will need authenticator for their mindsets.


Don't worry there in 100 TRILLION dollar wind at your back and what you hold is better then defaulted promises to keep the US dollar worth.


Go here and put your mouse on the many headlines or categories of the FED - really scary stuff:

http://www.economagic.com/fedstl.htm#Monetary



http://www.economagic.com/fedstl.htm#Monetary


Spend a few minutes herein and start to shake.

Best wishes,

HS

Never Unprepared - English Knight's Motto.

[ChoiceBU]

I'm certainly not arguing your point, but diversifying one's stack is a win-win IMO. I personally feel the majority of your stack should be in Au bullion and 90% silver, but I think it's wise to buy the occasional semi-numi coin if the premium makes sense. Paying $1000 simply because something is hot (like the light finish GC coin) is a fool's bet IMO. However sometimes it's worth just a tad of risk for the positive numismatic potential that modern mint products offer. Some people like to gamble their money away in Vegas or on lotto tickets. I do my gambling with semi-numi stuff instead ;).WTB: 2010 ATB Grand Canyon collector 'P' coins w/ light or no finish You might want to broaden the field of searching now, looks like a Yellowstone P has turned up with no blast on one side! Now wouldn't it have been more efficient for the Mint to have just made them all this way? Something for the shiny lovers and something for the blast lovers, all in one coin:love30:
http://www.coinnews.net/2011/07/25/yellowstone-5-oz-silver-coin-error-discovered-by-ngc/

[lightcycler]

You might want to broaden the field of searching now, looks like a Yellowstone P has turned up with no blast on one side! Now wouldn't it have been more efficient for the Mint to have just made them all this way? Something for the shiny lovers and something for the blast lovers, all in one coin:love30:
http://www.coinnews.net/2011/07/25/yellowstone-5-oz-silver-coin-error-discovered-by-ngc/

Like a twist ice cream cone. Some people feel like a nut..........some don't :)

[MrLucky]

Total Sales through 7/24/11

Hot Springs - 27,000
Yellowstone - 27,000
Yosemite - 27,000
Grand Canyon - 22,785 (was 24,896 on 7/7/11)


Next up - Mt. Hood 7/28/11

[HistoryStudent]

http://www.coincollectingnews.org/america-the-beautiful-5-oz-silver-coin-errors-and-varieties/1015662#more-15662

VAM

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VAM slam thank ya ERROR.

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America the Beautiful Silver Bullion Coins 26,300 11,400 364,500

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I sure like the SPs UNCs better then the bullion ones because of:

27,000 tops mintages.

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Remember the

Proof Eagle 1995-W $1 DCAM 2,500 2,600 2,600 2,600 2,700 2,850 3,300 30,000

She had over 27,000 mintage at 30,000 and now is valued at $30,000 in PF70 PCGS that is way way RETAIL price.

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She's the ONLY one I don't have in MS or PF. Too rich for my blood.

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I will probably buy a SP sample per coin - for you River Boat gamblers - I think the 5 oz SP holds a heck of a lot of promise way over the
BULLION shiny ones.

[ChoiceBU]

Appears to be official from the horse's mouth:

http://www.coinnews.net/2011/07/27/us-mint-explains-varieties-in-america-the-beautiful-5-oz-silver-uncirculated-coins/

"The United States Mint statement, shown below, noted that it was "apparent that several varieties" of uncirculated coins existed which had "differing or missing vapor blast finishes."

The cause of the varieties is being investigated. The equipment used in producing the coins appears to be a focal point. The Mint said it relies on retrofitted vapor blasting equipment which was originally designed for 3-inch medals. To address the problems and restore production consistency in its line of America the Beautiful five ounce products, the Mint has ordered new equipment designed specifically for the larger uncirculated coins."

[Shortstack]

Just ordered the Mt Hood "p" puck off the US mint website. Order number 37963XXX

Oh yes, My order date is listed as "07-28-2011 at 12:03 AM"

Should that read 12:03 PM??

No matter, I have my order number, with an order status of "Your order request is on hold"

[graspAU]

Mine is done: 37963xxx (about 12:03).

[voidus]

ditto: (NP5) 37963xxx 12:07pm est.

[MrLucky]

I almost forgot.

37968xxx at 12:59pm edt.

[Shiny]

Appears to be official from the horse's mouth:

http://www.coinnews.net/2011/07/27/us-mint-explains-varieties-in-america-the-beautiful-5-oz-silver-uncirculated-coins/

"The United States Mint statement, shown below, noted that it was "apparent that several varieties" of uncirculated coins existed which had "differing or missing vapor blast finishes."

The cause of the varieties is being investigated. The equipment used in producing the coins appears to be a focal point. The Mint said it relies on retrofitted vapor blasting equipment which was originally designed for 3-inch medals. To address the problems and restore production consistency in its line of America the Beautiful five ounce products, the Mint has ordered new equipment designed specifically for the larger uncirculated coins."

The mint should have worked the dies instead of the individual pucks and ensure consistency in product. But no - each coin is unique - and the hunt is on to find variations.

[drpiranha]

37968xxx at 12:54...........so about 5000 the 1st 50 minutes.

[HistoryStudent]

Grand Canyon's still available from the MINT for you river boat VARIATION gamblers....

Mine was sent back because it looked like they clubbed George Washington's cheek with a AX.

AX-ME.:biggrin:

[Chester-Copperpot]

Ordered mine, might be the last.

[lightcycler]

Grand Canyon's still available from the MINT for you river boat VARIATION gamblers....

Mine was sent back because it looked like they clubbed George Washington's cheek with a AX.

AX-ME.:biggrin:

Two reasons I haven't ordered any. Don't want that axed up coin and I would think they did some QC work to pull out any obvious non blasted coins.

I did order 1 of the hoods

[newmisty]

I'm in it through 2011 at least. :p

Order #: 37979xxx

[lightcycler]

I'm in it through 2011 at least. :p

Order #: 37979xxx

We may be the only original atb junkies left standing for the 2011's newmisty. I'll be buying as they come out. Hope a collector base develops quickly :). I think there are many folks out there just waiting to become hooked on pucks. Maybe an infomercial is in order?

[savvydon]

I'm in as well, mainly for the reason that I just can't let go at this point. It is a bold program despite whatever else folks want to say about it. This is exactly how I felt with the spouse program and, although I have blinked a few times, I have stayed the course with that series so far and it it currently seems to be paying off. This program is unprecedented. I believe if I just follow my silly lil numismatic heart ultimately my investor brain will be rewarded for the courage and fortitude it takes to stay in the pocket.

[farscott]

Ordered this morning with order number 37979xxx. 8/12 shipment is stated.

[MrLucky]

Stats from http://mintnewsblog.blogspot.com/

Here are time lines summarizing the offerings for the prior four coins in the series.

Hot Springs National Park
April 28: sales begin
May 2: opening sales reach approximately 25,000
May 13: product put on waiting list as orders reach 27,000

Yellowstone National Park
May 17: sales begin
May 22: opening sales reach 24,626
June 1: product sold out, no waiting list imposed

Yosemite National Park
June 9: sales begin
June 12: opening sales reach 20,511
June 23: waiting list incorrectly posted
July 9: ordering limit removed
July 11: incorrect waiting list notice removed
July 20: product put on waiting list as orders reach 27,000

Grand Canyon National Park
June 29: sales begin
July 3: opening sales reach 19,300
as of July 28: last reported sales 22,785, ordering limit remains in effect

[lightcycler]

One thing I know for sure today. With 8 sets of 2010 and 2 full sets of 2010 P. I'm holdin some silver :565:

That dance even though I think silver will drop one more time before it resumes its assent to the heaven's. I could care less about any short term moves except to load the wagons more given the opportunity. If not I'll continue to buy slow and steady.

[Chester-Copperpot]

Off topic a little, but just wanted to know how many of your are collecting the bullion coins as well. So far I've got a full 2010-2011 set of the bullion coins, and a full set of the 2010 P set. Is it worth while collecting the whole set of these?

[ChoiceBU]

One thing I know for sure today. With 8 sets of 2010 and 2 full sets of 2010 P. I'm holdin some silver :565:

That dance even though I think silver will drop one more time before it resumes its assent to the heaven's. I could care less about any short term moves except to load the wagons more given the opportunity. If not I'll continue to buy slow and steady.LC, ever think about gettin' some therapy for this ATB obsession?! Seriously...:hahaha:

Well, I'm off the Ps, passing up MH - but will be looking for an MS69 Chickasaw to continue the madness!!

[lightcycler]

I will get therapy if it proves to be a bad move financially. That therapy will come in the form of large quantities of good dark beer. I am starting that therapy now just in case :)

I'll stack mostly bullion ATB's going forward. A mint tube here.......a mint tube there.

[lightcycler]

Off topic a little, but just wanted to know how many of your are collecting the bullion coins as well. So far I've got a full 2010-2011 set of the bullion coins, and a full set of the 2010 P set. Is it worth while collecting the whole set of these?

The worthwhile part for sure is that if you collect the whole set of bullions you have a nice stash of silver. I'm in!!!!!!!!!!!!!