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TemplarX
06-27-2011, 11:27 AM
2011-JUN-27

Gold and silver prices are continuing to fall as more and more hedge funds conduct panic sales in a dash for cash. The gold price is trading around $1,500 per troy ounce, while the silver spot price is currently just above $34 per ounce. The gold price has now fallen lower in two of the last three weeks.

As The Wall Street Journal highlights, many traders are being forced to sell even safe-haven assets in gold investments in order to meet margin calls. This dynamic is reminiscent of that which affected the precious metal markets in the autumn of 2008, when fears over banks’ exposure to US subprime loans prompted a massive stock market sell-off and a dash for the US dollar that resulted in sharp corrections in commodities and precious metals.

Many investors are increasingly fearful of the effect that a Greek default or debt restructuring programme would have on the international financial system, owing to the large number of credit default swaps taken out on Greek sovereign debt. There is doubt as to whether all the banks, insurance companies and hedge funds that have sold this form of insurance will be able to make good on their promises when (as seems inevitable) Greece defaults.

As George Soros stated at a conference in Vienna yesterday: "let's face it: we are on the verge of an economic collapse which starts, let's say, in Greece but could easily spread. The financial system remains extremely vulnerable... We are on the edge of collapse and that is the time to recognise the need for change."

The Greek parliament is due to vote on the EU/IMF austerity programme on Wednesday, and will more than likely vote through the measures to guarantee the 12 billion euro bailout. This could see a momentary lull in European sovereign debt fears, with financial market and media attention turning to negotiations in Washington between Republicans and Democrats over raising the US government’s debt ceiling.

Meanwhile, today has seen news of a warning from the Bank of International Settlements that low interest rates across the globe are posing a threat to world financial stability. The BIS is particularly concerned about inflation and asset bubbles in emerging economies, and thinks that higher interest rates and tighter monetary policies are needed “if central banks are to preserve their hard-won inflation fighting credibility.”

But as pointed out in previous News Desk commentaries, owing to crushing debt burdens across developed economies, any serious attempt at tighter monetary policy on the part of central banks in these developed nations will likely result in a global depression of unparalleled proportions. As far as their “hard-won inflation fighting credibility is concerned”, central banks are between a rock and a hard place.


Source: http://www.goldmoney.com/gold-research/george-soros-we-are-on-the-edge-of-collapse.html

Juristic Person
06-27-2011, 12:26 PM
Interesting explanation for falling PM prices. Makes sense.

Not Sure
06-27-2011, 05:56 PM
We are on the edge of collapse...

...exactly as we engineered it to happen.

Turner-son
06-27-2011, 06:46 PM
Oh please - panic sales?? Really? Wake up. Spot is off 4 freaking % from its all time high. If there had been panic sales, the price drops would have been immense. Now, there could very well be panic selling in the near future, as everyone here knows this ship is going down (read world wide economy) but there certainly hasn't been any since '08. I'm sure there have been margin calls as well, but it's certainly not blood in the streets quite yet. Enough of the fear mongering. Gold and silver will certainly drop from here as economies are hit hard, but they will firm up again after everyone realizes inflation isn't going away and the Fed can't afford to raise rates.

ccjoe
06-27-2011, 07:08 PM
Oh please - panic sales?? Really? Wake up. Spot is off 4 freaking % from its all time high. If there had been panic sales, the price drops would have been immense. Now, there could very well be panic selling in the near future, as everyone here knows this ship is going down (read world wide economy) but there certainly hasn't been any since '08. I'm sure there have been margin calls as well, but it's certainly not blood in the streets quite yet. Enough of the fear mongering. Gold and silver will certainly drop from here as economies are hit hard, but they will firm up again after everyone realizes inflation isn't going away and the Fed can't afford to raise rates.
50-34=16 off record high.
My math seems to say 33% off, NOT 4% off turner.

Gcubed
06-27-2011, 07:10 PM
50-34=16 off record high.
My math seems to say 33% off, NOT 4% off turner.

Gold Joe, GOLD. Silver don't match up. ;)

Malus
06-27-2011, 07:11 PM
BIS ain't worried about sh*t. They're waiting for the collapse so they (and the World Bank/IMF) can take over.

ccjoe
06-27-2011, 07:18 PM
Gold Joe, GOLD. Silver don't match up. ;)

Hey G, I love gold and if I won the lottery, I would buy tons.
I'm poor so I HAVE to make every dollar count so silver it is, at least till 30/1 and probably all the way down to 15/1.
Trust me, I want gold to do very well as silver will ride the back of the only real money.

Gcubed
06-27-2011, 07:22 PM
Hey G, I love gold and if I won the lottery, I would buy tons.
I'm poor so I HAVE to make every dollar count so silver it is, at least till 30/1 and probably all the way down to 15/1.
Trust me, I want gold to do very well as silver will ride the back of the only real money.

You don't need to win the lottery Joe. I've read your posts about your market prowess and success. I'm just a buffoon, remember? ;)

ccjoe
06-27-2011, 07:26 PM
You don't need to win the lottery Joe. I've read your posts about your market prowess and success. I'm just a buffoon, remember? ;)

Buy low and sell high? Real market prowess:) Beats my real estate prowess with buy high and lose everything low, I guess.
FYI G> I have one friend of 35 years who has a lot of money. He bought some silver> couple mb's but now is buying gold upon my advice!
I told him APMEX had the best deals on Saints and I recommended 10 or so better dates MS 64's and 10 or so ozs of fractionals of different types. Point is he has > million in "other things" so he can afford gold, I can't.

Gcubed
06-27-2011, 07:28 PM
Buy low and sell high? Real market prowess:) Beats my real estate prowess with buy high and lose everything low, I guess.
FYI G> I have one friend of 35 years who has a lot of money. He bought some silver> couple mb's but now is buying gold upon my advice!
I told him APMEX had the best deals on Saints and I recommended 10 or so better dates MS 64's and 10 or so ozs of fractionals of different types. Point is he has > million in "other things" so he can afford gold, I can't.

Oh Joe! You're just joshing us here. What about all of your famous neighbors? They surely adore a guy like you! :biggrin: