View Full Version : Obama about to give away your 2nd amendment rights
wallew
04-06-2010, 02:42 PM
It just struck me. Maybe I'm wrong.
But Obama is currently over in Prague. He's going to sign a new treaty with the Russians regarding Nuclear (and normal) weapons and delivery systems.
What I suspect will be PART of this treaty will be a RUSSIAN demand for the us to adhere to the UN's Millennium Development program regarding small arms and light weapons as well.
And OBAMA will tell everyone he just HAD to do it, for the welfare and safety of the CHILDREN.
Anyway, that's one conspiracy theorist THEORY.
RossL
04-06-2010, 02:52 PM
WTF. Obama doesn't have the authority.
wallew
04-06-2010, 02:58 PM
WTF. Obama doesn't have the authority .
And that's stopped him so effectively up to now. You know, when he took over GM?
It's coming. Whether NOW or later this year, he WILL give away the 2nd amendment rights that founded this country. And he will do it without going through the Senate/House.
You heard it here first.
Hey mods, IF I AM CORRECT, can this be moved back to a non-politics forum?
GoldWampum
04-06-2010, 03:01 PM
No telling what event, large or small, will set it off, but the fuse is lit.
Sindgefallen
04-06-2010, 08:17 PM
But first he must IMPORT MORE VOTES via MAY-HICO
Sindgefallen
04-06-2010, 08:21 PM
And I'm sure that he'll site the commerce clause to take away your firearms right as well.
Shoden
04-07-2010, 03:34 PM
I keep hearing about how some UN small arms treaty is going to be an end run around the 2nd Amendment, but I doubt that the UN's Millennium Development program will be the one that does it. The Millennium Development program says this about small arms:
sovereignty.net/p/gov/madec.html
[b]To take concerted action to end illicit traffic in small arms and light weapons[b/], especially by making arms transfers more transparent and supporting regional disarmament measures, taking account of all the recommendations of the forthcoming United Nations Conference on Illicit Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons.
The FAQ for the United Nations Conference on Illicit Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons says this:
www.un.org/events/smallarms2006/faq.html
* Does the Programme of Action aim to curb the legal trade in small arms and light weapons?
No. The PoA outlines measures to help curb and eliminate the illicit trade in small arms and light weapons. It is the prerogative of each State to legislate the rights of its citizens to bear arms.
So the Millennium Development program is only concerned with illicit trade of small arms, or so they claim. The most it would be likely to do would be to increase the tracking of sales and transfers to make sure they don't enter the illicit market. Not a good thing, certainly, but not as bad as completely giving away our 2nd Amendment rights, and my feeling is that an international agreement (treaty) would likely have no effect on the private firearm trade within a nation (other than a reduced supply of foreign new and military surplus weapons and ammo, which would suck for those of us that like those weapons and cheap ammo).
A bigger threat is from IANSA, which is an NGO that works with the UN, and has been involved in the UN's Small Arms Process (http://www.iansa.org/about.htm). One of their goals is "Advocating for improved national gun laws", so they're pushing for more than just increased regulation of international arms trade.
I'm all for "improved national gun laws", but I'm pretty certain their interpretation of that phrase is completely opposite of mine.
Shoden
04-07-2010, 03:39 PM
And I'm sure that he'll site the commerce clause to take away your firearms right as well.
They've been using the commerce clause to restrict our firearms rights since at least 1939.
United States vs. Miller
On March 30, 1939 the Supreme Court heard the case. Attorneys for the United States argued four points:
1. The NFA is intended as a revenue-collecting measure and therefore within the authority of the Department of the Treasury.
2. The defendants transported the shotgun from Oklahoma to Arkansas, and therefore used it in interstate commerce.
3. The Second Amendment protects only the ownership of military-type weapons appropriate for use in an organized militia.
4. The "double barrel 12-gauge Stevens shotgun having a barrel less than 18 inches in length, bearing identification number 76230" was never used in any militia organization.
Nickelless
04-08-2010, 03:01 AM
It's going to be hard to enforce U.N. mandates if lead projectiles keep flying in their general direction.
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