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cpthnsolo
10-11-2011, 09:23 AM
Vitamins May Increase Women's Risk of Dying, Research Finds (link) (http://news.yahoo.com/vitamins-may-increase-womens-risk-dying-research-finds-212402256.html)
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Popping vitamins may do more harm than good, according to a new study that adds to a growing body of evidence suggesting some supplements may have health risks.
Researchers from the University of Minnesota examined data from more than 38,000 women taking part in the Iowa Women's Health Study, an ongoing study with women who were around age 62 at its start in 1986. The researchers collected data on the women's supplement use in 1986, 1997 and 2004.
Women who took supplements had, on average, a 2.4 percent increased risk of dying over the course of the 19-year study, compared with women who didn't take supplements, after the researchers adjusted for factors including the women's age and calorie intake.
"Our study, as well as other similar studies, have provided very little evidence that commonly used dietary supplements would help to prevent chronic diseases," said study author Jaakko Mursu, an epidemiologist at the University of Minnesota School of Public Health.
"We would advise people to reconsider whether they need to use supplements, and put more emphasis on a healthy diet instead," Mursu said.
A toxic combination?
The new study linked a number of individual vitamins and minerals to the slight mortality risk, including multivitamins, vitamin B6, folic acid, iron, magnesium, zinc and copper.
For example, of the 12,769 women in the study who took a daily multivitamin, 40.8 percent had died by the end of 2008, whereas 39.8 percent of the 10,161 women who hadn't taken a daily multivitamin had died.
Mursu said that the design of the study did not allow the researchers to determine if there was a specific cause for the increased mortality.
"However, we do know that most compounds are toxic in high amounts, and long-term use might predispose [a person] to detrimental outcomes," he told MyHealthNewsDaily.
The increased chance of dying" could be related to generally high concentration of compounds that these supplements contain. Most supplements contain higher amounts of nutrients than would be derived from food, and it is known that several compounds can be toxic in higher amounts, especially when consumed for a long time, as some of these accumulate to body," Mursu said.
Taking calcium supplements, on the other hand, actually seemed to lower the women's death risk slightly, by 3.8 percent, although the researchers noted that there was not a relationship between consuming increasingly higher amounts of calcium and a continuing decrease in mortality rate.
Less is more
While vitamins and minerals are necessary for proper nutrition, excess intake has not shown further benefit, and recent studies have cast some doubt on the idea that vitamin supplements provide a "safety net" for people not getting enough of a given nutrient. Instead, too much may be a problem.
The study, published today (Oct. 10) in the journal Archives of Internal Medicine, is part of a series examining interventions in medicine that may be unnecessary.
"Until recently, the available data regarding the adverse effects of dietary supplements has been limited and grossly underreported. We think the paradigm "the more, the better" is wrong," wrote Dr. Goran Bjelakovic and Dr. Christian Gluud, of the Center for Clinical Intervention Research at Copenhagen University Hospital in Denmark in an accompanying commentary.
"We believe that for all micronutrients, risks are associated with insufficient and too-large intake. Low levels of intake increase the risk of deficiency. High levels of intake increase the risk of toxic effects and disease," they wrote.
"Therefore, we believe that politicians and regulatory authorities should wake up to their responsibility to allow only safe products on the market," they wrote.

Brio
10-11-2011, 09:49 AM
:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: Omg. And here I thought living was the leading cause of dieing.

Oldmansmith
10-11-2011, 10:06 AM
"Mursu said that the design of the study did not allow the researchers to determine if there was a specific cause for the increased mortality."

This is all you need to know about the study. Not double-blind, placebo controlled. It could be as simple as people who were getting sick decided to take vitamins.

Mantokir
10-11-2011, 12:15 PM
"Mursu said that the design of the study did not allow the researchers to determine if there was a specific cause for the increased mortality."

This is all you need to know about the study. Not double-blind, placebo controlled. It could be as simple as people who were getting sick decided to take vitamins.

Or... "I know I don't eat all that well, let me just take some vitamins to fix that"...

Malus
10-11-2011, 12:21 PM
Its the start of the program to declare vitamins and mineral supplements as "potentially harmful drugs", needing to be controlled and administered closely by doctors and pharma. The average Joe is too stupid to know what are "safe" levels of vitamins/minerals, so the goobermint is gonna take over and protect you........dumb@ss.

gnome
10-11-2011, 12:43 PM
This steaming elephant turd paid for by the AMA, the 3rd leading cause of death in America.

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TimoneX
10-11-2011, 12:47 PM
Indeed. This "study" smacks of the kind of scientific methodology that has many preaching about the dangers of global warming or non vaccinated masses.

I added multi vitamins to the list of stockpile items over a month ago and will continue to add inventory as opportunity arises.

notasockpuppet
10-11-2011, 12:51 PM
Indeed. This "study" smacks of the kind of scientific methodology that has many preaching about the dangers of global warming or non vaccinated masses.

I added multi vitamins to the list of stockpile items over a month ago and will continue to add inventory as opportunity arises.

I wonder what the actual shelf life of vitamins are? I bought about 5 of the gigantic Wal-Mart brand multi-vitamin bottles a few months back. They were on sale. Hopefully they won't kill me.....:bird:

Alric
10-11-2011, 01:37 PM
A 2.4 percent isn't all that much either. That is like saying people who takes vitamins died an average of 5 months earlier over the course of 19 years. They don't give a margin of error in there, but I would think that is pretty close. That could be like one person walking outside and getting hit by a bus in the first week and even if everyone else lived longer on average it would still say they died sooner.

Avalon
10-11-2011, 01:48 PM
While I call this entire "study" bull**** it is a good time to remind people that women past menstruation age and men do not need to supplement iron. Too much iron in the blood can indeed cause sticky platelets and lead to heart attack and stroke. That might have been one piece of non bull**** information they could have included in an otherwise bogus article. What a desperate attempt to declare war on supplements.. BTW, how come they didn't list how many people a year die from pharmaceutical drugs.. Its one of the leading causes of death.

Gray
10-11-2011, 01:56 PM
"Taking calcium supplements, on the other hand, actually seemed to lower the women's death risk slightly, by 3.8 percent"


I thought Calcium casued an increase in colon cancer, also:

http://www.uicc.org/general-news/calcium-pills-increase-risk-heart-attack

Mantokir
10-11-2011, 02:00 PM
While I call this entire "study" bull**** it is a good time to remind people that women past menstruation age and men do not need to supplement iron. Too much iron in the blood can indeed cause sticky platelets and lead to heart attack and stroke. That might have been one piece of non bull**** information they could have included in an otherwise bogus article. What a desperate attempt to declare war on supplements.. BTW, how come they didn't list how many people a year die from pharmaceutical drugs.. Its one of the leading causes of death.

**clears throat**
(In most official Pharmacist style voice)
Well, this study wasn't to determine the affects of beneficial medicine on an unhealthy population. Initially speaking though, people who are prescribed beneficial medicine are generally suffering from an unhealthful condition to begin with, so we believe it would be almost impossible to perform a study on beneficial medicine, due to not being able to determine if the patient died from complications of illness or from the beneficial medicine. In the end we have confidence in the research, safety and testing policies we currently have in place. Therefore, we believe our beneficial medicine is beneficial to the population, and we believe everyone should have access to it.

**steps off stage**

How'd I do?

TimoneX
10-11-2011, 05:01 PM
can you imagine any other occupation that would get a pass for killing off over a quarter of million people a year annually in the U.S. alone besides Big Pharma?

Yes actually, but not without huge campaign contributions to congressional and administration leaders.

Goldhedge
10-11-2011, 08:19 PM
If they would produce quality food, instead of adulterated food, one wouldn't need to take vitamins...


but that's another kettle of fish entirely....

anothername1
10-11-2011, 11:17 PM
Vitamins May Increase Women's Risk of Dying, Research Finds (link) (http://news.yahoo.com/vitamins-may-increase-womens-risk-dying-research-finds-212402256.html)
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Popping vitamins may do more harm than good, according to a new study that adds to a growing body of evidence suggesting some supplements may have health risks.
Researchers from the University of Minnesota examined data from more than 38,000 women taking part in the Iowa Women's Health Study, an ongoing study with women who were around age 62 at its start in 1986. The researchers collected data on the women's supplement use in 1986, 1997 and 2004.
Women who took supplements had, on average, a 2.4 percent increased risk of dying over the course of the 19-year study, compared with women who didn't take supplements, after the researchers adjusted for factors including the women's age and calorie intake.......... (more abbreviated)

For example, of the 12,769 women in the study who took a daily multivitamin, 40.8 percent had died by the end of 2008, whereas 39.8 percent of the 10,161 women who hadn't taken a daily multivitamin had died.
Mursu said that the design of the study did not allow the researchers to determine if there was a specific cause for the increased mortality......... (more abbreviated)
"Therefore, we believe that politicians and regulatory authorities should wake up to their responsibility to allow only safe products on the market," they wrote.

Wow --- women were 62 but during the course of the 19-year study, they aged into their early 80's --- and some died? Gee --- I wonder why? :flute:

:hahaha:So based on this conclusive study, now the FDA needs to control this huge, untapped industry and market it under "Big Brother Vitamins and Supplements" --- and government not take a profit :haha:

stAGgering
10-14-2011, 08:37 AM
The stated basis of risk being the accumulation of vitamins and the harmful effect - death, is not unfounded.
The cause being, chemically constructed vitamins.
The body does not recognize nor process correctly. Petroleum based fertilizer same same.

If storing vitamins and minerals for impending food crisis. One should look at content/ingredients of multivitamins. Wikipedia check all.

Or just purchase plant based supplements, ideally organic.
The body will utilize needed amount and pass excess. Not with confusion, store unrecognizable "nutrients" incorrectly.

The studies results are assumption based. A generalized hearsay fest.

One should consume all needed minerals and vitamins, during food consumption.

Obesity in USA is fueled by the premade nutrient deficient food consumed.
The package may read correct content of vitamins and minerals. However, chemically constructed they are, useless beyond the list upon the container. Your body will tell you to eat more, not for calories, for nutrients needed due to lack thereof.

Corn syrup is the additional corporate greed driven US obesity catalyst.
Research the blood sugar nightmare created within ones body with corn syrup. One may consider reduction or elimination of in ones diet.
Cancers favorite fuel is corn syrup, due to its weaker molecular structure.

Ignorance is suicide, as slowly as one can imagine.

Rusty Shackelford
10-14-2011, 11:24 AM
The increased chance of dying" could be related to generally high concentration of compounds that these supplements contain.

Or it could be something as simple as most of these women were in their 80's by the mid 2000's.

opps, looks like I should have read all the posts. another member point out my obvious observation.

Treasure Searcher
10-14-2011, 08:31 PM
Nothing to worry about, ObamaCare will heal us all. :23_30_104: