View Full Version : Will Ron Paul-ers Vote For Romney?
Goldhedge
04-11-2012, 02:02 AM
:hmmmm2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uOFZyezPenE#!
rodzm
04-11-2012, 05:04 AM
The general consensus is no. Sooooo in the event Romney is the Rep nominee you can bet your ass that we will see 4 more years of as phideaux puts it...Lord Barrack Hussein Soetoro Soebarkah Obama Shama-Lama-Ding-Dong
gringott
04-11-2012, 05:05 AM
Exactly.
Thanks for the post.
Joseph
04-11-2012, 09:21 AM
Will Ron Paul-ers Vote For Romney?
Not this one
phideaux
04-11-2012, 09:33 AM
No way, Jose.
IMHO Gary Johnson will by far be the best candidate on the ballot.
If Johnson can get enough of the Ron Paul supporters and get enough support in the (rigged) polls to qualify for the (rigged) debates: game over for the Democrap-Republican't stranglehold on the political system.
GOLDZILLA
04-11-2012, 09:40 AM
nope he's just as bad as the incumbent.
birddog
04-11-2012, 09:44 AM
Nope....
space filler....
phideaux
04-11-2012, 09:57 AM
http://sg2.caseyresearch.com/wf/click?upn=flkojQoVnV4U9n9PwF8wibXq-2F8JL1n1-2BeRHxW0SD9QSfuB9Gu5Kg3aOb79YO7RF8Vx4Trsa2v4htK2lS oRw6xsAsMEa-2BFLkVcauGFUFi5RA-3D_rNAQL0AKA4cYVFbcsxm28nwzBKfkqihDzeUTerRwcMYQhH8 XglR7Oez7walAGcbA-2BtBXj0TMCtqkth4NS0xczYbvwxsTCtXsvVsJc41GM5Dqb86E5 t0SVIPy1-2BjJSaRtI4nqawwunxvI2RDqy5NFJewd0JI3HZme-2FOidTaxgfnbSOHE0t41Rwu17bkjWRyXu7RqP3d2MO7vpwk5Ev jicxA-3D-3D
Irons
04-11-2012, 10:07 AM
Nope.
The sooner this effing mess burns down the sooner we can rebuild it under the laws of the Constitution.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
~ Thomas Jefferson
Irons
04-11-2012, 10:14 AM
:hmmmm2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uOFZyezPenE#!
Damn she's smart and hawt. I wonder if she has any older sisters. :p
TimoneX
04-11-2012, 10:36 AM
Damn she's smart and hawt. I wonder if she has any older sisters. :p
...preferably un-wed eh? ;)
I will not be voting for mittens. BO is at least a known quantity. It's known he'll wipe his azz with the Constitution and it's known he'll continue running around the globe killing people at every turn...he'd probably whack them with his unearned peace prize if it came to that. I dunno what mittens would do, but I doubt it would be much if any different/better.
craiggger
04-11-2012, 12:26 PM
I can't vote becasue I'm a Canadian but I have chosen to ditch the 3 major political parties in Canada and sign up as a registered Libertarian in Ontario and Canada. :)
We have the same problem here in canada. Liberals + democrats= spending, taxing, babysitting
NDP= democrats to the extreme
Conservatives = neo cons republicans and they spend too. (F35 fiasco as of late)
curmudgeonista
04-11-2012, 12:48 PM
She mentions that RP supporters have tripled this primary cycle, but she speaks only for the hard-core contingency, as, I gather, do most of you. I have to believe that the bulk of those new pick-ups will indeed see the folly in allowing Obama another term.
Whomever ends up as the Republican candidate might not be my first choice either, but I would crawl over broken glass to cast a vote for them. Sorry, but the starry-eyed perception that doing otherwise amounts to anything other than a vote for four more years of Obama is misguided.
AG Stacker
04-11-2012, 01:49 PM
Romney supports NDAA-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUZoPnYjx0g&sns=em
Romney is a gun grabber-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF-jdo7DZRw&sns=em
Romney was for commie care before he claimed to be against it-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBFQKxLMPy4&sns=em
I could go on but if you've been paying attention you get the point. Romney is Obama is McCain is Gore is Bush is Reagan is Carter is Dole is Clinton is Kerry.
Will my well thought out, studied positions on economics, liberty, freedom, family, work, life, religion, integrity, values, war, foreign intervention, etc, etc, etc be thwarted by someone because they have an R in front of their name?....... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
What's more funny is that some would try to claim it would be a vote for glorious leader.
TimoneX
04-11-2012, 01:52 PM
Incumbent presidents are seldom tossed out of office, regardless of how poorly they've performed their duties. Mittens Romulan isn't likely to inspire fringe voters to turn out. So now you're wasting your vote on the lesser of two losers.
No thanks, I'll just go ahead and waste my vote on someone I actually want to win. :grin10:
anywoundedduck
04-11-2012, 05:37 PM
No, N-O. No!
Hope a good third party candidate emerges, otherwise, I am not voting.
letsbuildasnowman
04-11-2012, 05:48 PM
The sad thing is people that are voting third party are essentially throwing away a vote and opening the door for Obama. Its the sad reality, but the truth.
GOLDZILLA
04-11-2012, 06:07 PM
The sad thing is people that are voting third party are essentially throwing away a vote and opening the door for Obama. Its the sad reality, but the truth.
It might be better to let this happen, get the inevitable crash over now rather than spend another 30- 40 years losing one more freedom at each successive election staying between the lines on this predetermined road both parties are staying on.
southfork
04-11-2012, 06:44 PM
She mentions that RP supporters have tripled this primary cycle, but she speaks only for the hard-core contingency, as, I gather, do most of you. I have to believe that the bulk of those new pick-ups will indeed see the folly in allowing Obama another term.
Whomever ends up as the Republican candidate might not be my first choice either, but I would crawl over broken glass to cast a vote for them. Sorry, but the starry-eyed perception that doing otherwise amounts to anything other than a vote for four more years of Obama is misguided.
From you lips to Gods ears
chris_is_here
04-12-2012, 08:51 AM
Let me put it this way.......if you paid me $1 million to vote for mittens, I'd take the million dollars.......and not vote for him anyway.
That prick was the governor of this moral-wasteland of a state that I reside in, and he did nothing good in all that time. Most of the time, he wasn't here - which, perhaps, was the very best thing he could have done.
ralleia
04-12-2012, 11:57 AM
The sad thing is people that are voting third party are essentially throwing away a vote and opening the door for Obama. Its the sad reality, but the truth.
But the good thing about a LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE voting third party is that maybe the GOP will learn something.
Whatever you choose, please don't sit the election out.
Make a deliberate choice.
TimoneX
04-12-2012, 12:19 PM
Just THINK for a second about the so called "choices" we've been presented with in the last few cycles...
Obama or Romney
Obama or McCain
Bush or Kerry
Bush or Gore
These are not choices, where are the conservative candidates, where are the candidates that believe in Constitutional government? Right, safely tucked away in the fringe parties. We're being forced to choose one Fascist pig or another, so America elects a Rethuglican Fascist, then a Democrap Fascist and nothing changes. How can anyone knowingly help perpetuate this cycle?
Irons
04-12-2012, 12:56 PM
Just THINK for a second about the so called "choices" we've been presented with in the last few cycles...
Obama or Romney
Obama or McCain
Bush or Kerry
Bush or Gore
These are not choices, where are the conservative candidates, where are the candidates that believe in Constitutional government? Right, safely tucked away in the fringe parties. We're being forced to choose one Fascist pig or another, so America elects a Rethuglican Fascist, then a Democrap Fascist and nothing changes. How can anyone knowingly help perpetuate this cycle?
Well put. Blindly voting republican lately is akin to believing you can pick up a turd by the clean end.
I for one am freakin' tired of it.
curmudgeonista
04-12-2012, 01:41 PM
When Obama gets re-elected don't blame the Republicans... and don't blame the entitlement hungry Democrat voters. Blame yourselves! I will.
Fact is, if Ron Paul doesn't throw his own support behind the eventual GOP candidate, assuming it's not him, it'll do more harm to the Libertarian and/or Tea-Party movement than if he'd not run at all. Running as a Republican then abandoning the party would be tantamount to admitting that he isn't one, which would just show that all the talk about fairness and integrity and eliciting change for the better was just duplicitous lip-service, that he ran as a Republican only out of self-interest. Is that who you think your guy is?
DodgebyDave
04-12-2012, 01:42 PM
Well put. Blindly voting republican lately is akin to believing you can pick up a turd by the clean end.
I for one am freakin' tired of it.
If you hold your nose to vote, you will still be smelling the shyt on your fingers.
It doesn't matter between 0berry and McMilquetoast, one is the same as the other. Enemies Domestic. The difference between a criminal born half a world away and one born next door.
Unclad Lad
04-12-2012, 01:48 PM
The sad thing is people that are voting third party are essentially throwing away a vote and opening the door for Obama. Its the sad reality, but the truth.
What it says is "None of the above", which is a message our Dear Leaders won't hear, but which needs to be said. Well, I need to say it, in order to respect myself.
But the good thing about a LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE voting third party is that maybe the GOP will learn something.
You're forgetting something: They already learned something. The co-opted the Tea Party movement when it started to become a threat. How else could Santorum get so far? Ricky was essentially the Tea Party voice, and an uninhibited voice at that. By going off repeatedly on subjects that had nothing to do with the real issues of this election (contraception? Hey Rick!! ECONOMY) he's done more to prove to mainstream Republicans the dangers of the fringe than anything the party could have developed. Similarly, the Democrats have taken all real power out of the OWS movement.
Mittens Milquetoast ain't getting my vote.
ralleia
04-12-2012, 02:25 PM
You're forgetting something: They already learned something. The co-opted the Tea Party movement when it started to become a threat.
...
Mittens Milquetoast ain't getting my vote.
If *that* is what the GOP learned, it isn't the lesson that they were supposed to learn.
The lesson they need to learn is to be led by the conservative majority, NOT to just employ more tactics to get control over the conservatives.
I ain't voting for Mittens, either. It'll be a third-party or I'll write in a name, whichever will send the stronger message. I will be watching carefully how the race develops from here.
Either way, I am already emotionally fatigued from it.
Tinbox
04-12-2012, 03:16 PM
She mentions that RP supporters have tripled this primary cycle, but she speaks only for the hard-core contingency, as, I gather, do most of you. I have to believe that the bulk of those new pick-ups will indeed see the folly in allowing Obama another term.
Whomever ends up as the Republican candidate might not be my first choice either, but I would crawl over broken glass to cast a vote for them. Sorry, but the starry-eyed perception that doing otherwise amounts to anything other than a vote for four more years of Obama is misguided.
this is the fallacy that has allowed republicans and democrats to have a strange-hold on the country, until people realize that both parties suck (most realize this) but yet most still vote for them:hmmmm2:
A vote for Ron Paul/ Gary Johnson (or any other anti-establishment candidate) is as meaningful or more meaningful that voting for the same old fools who will continue the same policies that are bankrupting this country both morally and financially.
ralleia
04-12-2012, 03:24 PM
A vote for Gary Johnson (or any other anti-establishment candidate) is as meaningful or more meaningful that voting for the same old fools who will continue the same policies that are bankrupting this country both morally and financially.
I was just wondering, why Gary Johnson and not Ron Paul?
Don't get me wrong, I like Gary Johnson very much and was impressed with the character that he revealed with what little he was allowed to say in those early debates.
But I am most likely to cast my vote with Paul in the hopes of making a bigger splash.
I don't know if the Gary Johnson votes would even be reported. :hmpf:
SongSungAU
04-12-2012, 03:30 PM
When Obama gets re-elected don't blame the Republicans... and don't blame the entitlement hungry Democrat voters. Blame yourselves! I will.
Fact is, if Ron Paul doesn't throw his own support behind the eventual GOP candidate, assuming it's not him, it'll do more harm to the Libertarian and/or Tea-Party movement than if he'd not run at all. Running as a Republican then abandoning the party would be tantamount to admitting that he isn't one, which would just show that all the talk about fairness and integrity and eliciting change for the better was just duplicitous lip-service, that he ran as a Republican only out of self-interest. Is that who you think your guy is?
You are free to blame whoever you like. That's one thing that isn't illegal yet.
Ron Paul ran as a Republican because he is one. The only sane one. The GOP keeps giving us silly nominees to vote for. You know the saying about if you keep doing the same thing and hoping for a different result. The GOP has lost its way. They have the opportunity to support Ron Paul and sweep the election this fall. Ron Paul will get votes from disenfranchised people who are sorry they voted for Obama the last time around. Ron Paul will get independent votes. Ron Paul will get a lot of the Republican vote. That's if the GOP were smart. Instead, GOP insiders feel they "owe" Romney the nomination. So be it if that is the way they want to do it. The GOP will make themselves irrelevant and fade into history.
I voted for Bush and was betrayed. Smaller government, no nation-building? You've got to be kidding me. The Bush administration created the humongous Homeland Security monster, gave us the lovely "Patriot" Act, and let's not forget the prescription drug benefit... that one little payback to someone has a larger unfunded liability than social security's unfunded liability (http://www.usdebtclock.org/). Smaller government?
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
I voted for McCain because, at the time, I was still thinking there was a difference between "R"s and "D"s. Ron Paul warned that the GOP would lose and keep losing if they didn't wake up and guess what? The GOP lost. Apparently they are still asleep and will lose again. Obama's win convinced me there is no difference between the "R"s and "D"s ... he ran on ending the wars and bringing our soldiers home (within 6 months, wasn't it?). Not only did he lie, that Nobel Peace Prize winner expanded the wars and then crammed more big government (Obamacare) down our throats.
Regardless of which party wins, the same crap continues. D & R ??? There is no difference. The federal government is a monster that is out of control.
Ron Paul's message has been warning America for decades.... when will America wake up?
Ron Paul not endorsing the GOP nominee will not be the end of the world. He didn't endorse the GOP candidate in 2008 because Ron Paul would have been a hypocrite if he had endorsed someone (McCain) who stood opposed to almost everything he (Ron Paul) has talked about for decades.
I have conflicted feelings about this election. I REALLY don't want Obama to win but I also don't want to fall for the same old GOP crap. Add to that, all the instances of the GOP trying to rig the caucuses against Ron Paul again this election cycle. So I guess the GOP doesn't care about representative government, they only care about their party. So much for the will of the people and the rule of law.
What will I do this fall? I don't know at this point. I will wait and see what develops and what direction Ron Paul takes. He may ask his supporters to consider one thing or another so I will hold off making a definite decision until later. At the present time, I am planning on voting Ron Paul... even if I have to write his name in.
If the GOP loses this time around it will be because they keep offering candidates that people don't want to vote for. They have the opportunity to back a man that pulls in crowds when he speaks. I hope they embrace that opportunity.
Mitt Romney believes Jesus Christ was born the brother of Lucifer but yet the media thinks Ron Paul is the crazy one. Okay, whatever.
You can blame whoever you like but I will not be guilted into voting for the party. I will vote for the person I think will be the best President for America.
I may be butchering her quote but Mother Teresa said something like, "God doesn't require us to succeed; He only requires that you try."
I will do my part and vote for Ron Paul and leave the results to Providence.
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