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AgAuGal
08-11-2010, 11:55 PM
Anyone follow Tyhee. Not sure why the stock is going down. 16% not a good enough estimated annual return ??????

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Tyhee-Development-Corp-cnw-1965309003.html?x=0&.v=1

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AgAuGal
08-11-2010, 11:56 PM
7.5 yr mine life and that doesn't include anything at depth

phideaux
08-12-2010, 12:09 AM
Jimmy Puplava is a director of Tyhee. A caller to his show last week ragged him about Tyhee being a Big Dog. Puplava did a tap dance and basically dismissed the caller.

Not sure which hour it was on, but it was August 7, in there somewhere:

http://www.financialsense.com/index.php

AgAuGal
08-12-2010, 12:55 AM
Calling it a dog is to do dogs everywhere a disservice. Like KBX. I still hope there is value there. It seems based on the announcement that is has value going forward. But it takes so dang long. Anyone see a problem with these numbers other than perhaps a dsiappointment becuase not enough proven/probable. Trying to learn and understand

AgAuGal
08-12-2010, 02:03 PM
no one here into miners anymore? evaluating potential??

phideaux
08-12-2010, 02:14 PM
no one here into miners anymore? evaluating potential??

Sure, just not Tyhee (hee hee)

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Eat Beef
08-12-2010, 02:32 PM
To quote Nine Inch Nails; I tried, I gave up.

Too many liars with holes in the ground. I'm not currently shopping miners, but I am looking for another fire sale in the not so distant future.

BTW, I can't imagine Tyhee being much better than GPR, and they're trading at about 1/4 of their highs, which were reached with silver half what it is now. Don't even get me started on Running Fox...:bearmad:

<===Foolsgold
08-12-2010, 04:46 PM
Up 15.10% today.

Strawboss
08-12-2010, 06:42 PM
I really hate sounding like a conspiracist, but...

Whether its the usual suspects trying to dampen interest in all things PM related, or hedge funds playing the ratio game (creating the ratios in many cases by their sheer size), or naked shorts ala overstock.com, or the embedded derivatives in the financing structure..., the end result is the same.

Tyhee has the goods. http://www.tyhee.com/projects/documents/TyheePANI43-101_000.pdf

As the price of gold rises, the value of their in situ resources continues to rise and their net asset value does as well - I dont care what the short term gyrations are - or the machinations...

Jaguar is another recent example and another lesser known one is Tara Gold.

These bastards are trying to rip off the current investors by slamming the stock price and scaring you into selling to them on the cheap.

F%$@ them I say. I wouldnt sell them a damn thing. Hold on and stay strong and you WILL be rewarded.

What isnt known is how long they can play this game.

AgAuGal
08-12-2010, 08:28 PM
I really hate sounding like a conspiracist, but...

Whether its the usual suspects trying to dampen interest in all things PM related, or hedge funds playing the ratio game (creating the ratios in many cases by their sheer size), or naked shorts ala overstock.com, or the embedded derivatives in the financing structure..., the end result is the same.

Tyhee has the goods. http://www.tyhee.com/projects/documents/TyheePANI43-101_000.pdf

As the price of gold rises, the value of their in situ resources continues to rise and their net asset value does as well - I dont care what the short term gyrations are - or the machinations...

Jaguar is another recent example and another lesser known one is Tara Gold.

These bastards are trying to rip off the current investors by slamming the stock price and scaring you into selling to them on the cheap.

F%$@ them I say. I wouldnt sell them a damn thing. Hold on and stay strong and you WILL be rewarded.

What isnt known is how long they can play this game.

Thanks Strawboss for the useful dialogue. I also wonder how long these little ones can stand against the dark side. I have had a few explorers that seem to have the goods but the shareholders left holding nothing or fewwer shares than what they apear to be worth. It has been so frustrating to see these manipulators operate w/o consequences. Thanks for the wise words.

AgAuGal
08-12-2010, 08:29 PM
Up 15.10% today.

which equals a whopping .01

phideaux
08-12-2010, 08:36 PM
which equals a whopping .01

Huge volume though, 2.4 million shares, 10x normal volume. Could be the launch off the bottom. I just added Tyhee to my top watch list.

Lore
08-12-2010, 10:46 PM
JMO - Couple of thoughts:

1) The market is rewarding those who have the goods in or very near production and can bring more online without having to go begging for financing and issuing more paper (i.e., they can do it themselves with cash flow and/or present a sexy takeover/JV profile). You see the pattern when you check the holdings of sector mutual funds.

2) It seems as though the market recognizes that we are on a fairly short timeline before TSHTF. I talked to several optimistic penny juniors with longer term prospects at a show earlier this year, and it was kind of sad to hear their enthusiasm because it conflicted with the vibe that they might as well hang up their shovels. Check the stagnant charts: the market has walked from most of them and technical indicators aren't presenting solid bottoms. The shares just keep drifting. It doesn't help that we see rampant unchecked manipulation and corruption and lies everywhere we look. A lot of investors are getting burned, and it doesn't do much for Confidence.

So we have to be extremely picky about the shares that we buy, watch actively for developments and don't cling to good stories and longer term favorites that may never shine. Ohh, that sounds so easy, I wish I did more of that... :rolleyes:

<===Foolsgold
08-12-2010, 11:31 PM
which equals a whopping .01

Well you were comparing it to a 16% drop so.....

AgAuGal
08-13-2010, 03:59 AM
JMO - Couple of thoughts:

1) The market is rewarding those who have the goods in or very near production and can bring more online without having to go begging for financing and issuing more paper (i.e., they can do it themselves with cash flow and/or present a sexy takeover/JV profile). You see the pattern when you check the holdings of sector mutual funds.

2) It seems as though the market recognizes that we are on a fairly short timeline before TSHTF. I talked to several optimistic penny juniors with longer term prospects at a show earlier this year, and it was kind of sad to hear their enthusiasm because it conflicted with the vibe that they might as well hang up their shovels. Check the stagnant charts: the market has walked from most of them and technical indicators aren't presenting solid bottoms. The shares just keep drifting. It doesn't help that we see rampant unchecked manipulation and corruption and lies everywhere we look. A lot of investors are getting burned, and it doesn't do much for Confidence.

So we have to be extremely picky about the shares that we buy, watch actively for developments and don't cling to good stories and longer term favorites that may never shine. Ohh, that sounds so easy, I wish I did more of that... :rolleyes:

Thanks Lore, good points, sad they are true. I regret getting into miners. Years ago they made ya some money, not just headaches. Good to see you posting.

Strawboss
08-13-2010, 05:55 AM
Lore - the points you are making explain well the psychology of the explorers and why they are so hated right now.

Let me ask you though... Is the best time to buy into a company when it is hated and no one wants it?

Where are the reserves to replenish the dwindling reserves of the majors going to come from 5 years from now?

If gold, at some point in the next 3-5 years is trading at $3, $5, $10K or even higher - do you really think that these explorers will be as hated then as they are now?

Do you think its possible that many of them will be trading at valuations of 10x, 20x even 100x what they are now? (during the mania phase of course, when John Q public comes rushing in).

Lore
08-14-2010, 02:17 AM
Following is JMO:


Is the best time to buy into a company when it is hated and no one wants it?

That's an old mantra, used often in the financial field. But it's important to distinguish between astute contrarianism (spotting a change in conditions ahead of the herd) vs. plain contrariness (acting emotionally or irrationally or stubbornly in the face of changing conditions). We aspire to be contrarian, not contrary.


Where are the reserves to replenish the dwindling reserves of the majors going to come from 5 years from now?
I kinda sorta answered that question in the previous post. Some of the companies announcing first production these days will still be around then. Junior explorers will probably lose their leases along with their shirts, which makes their drilling results public domain, enabling the survivors to cherry-pick the choicest locations at a later date when it suits them.


If gold, at some point in the next 3-5 years is trading at $3, $5, $10K or even higher - do you really think that these explorers will be as hated then as they are now?
They're not hated, they're just not bought. Money flows where it knows it will make more money. There are numerous reasons why a junior might look ugly: denomination in weak currency, excess government royalties, hostile natives, et cetera... Timeline just happens to be emerging as a particularly critical factor.


Do you think its possible that many of them will be trading at valuations of 10x, 20x even 100x what they are now? (during the mania phase of course, when John Q public comes rushing in).
A minority, yes. But I think most of the penny explorers will still suck dust if they even exist. The vast majority of companies that will go places will be those that are already going places. The ones that are 3-4-5+ years down the road to production: forget it. Most won't make it. I could try to compose some fancy bafflegab about inflation in share price for the companies that have the physical goods when the market knocks on their door vs. deflation for those who miss the boat, but you get the gist.

Lore
08-14-2010, 02:25 AM
Good to see you posting.
Hi AAG! Good to see you too.


I regret getting into miners. Years ago they made ya some money....
Hey, this has been a pretty good year for a lot of companies. They may not move exactly when we want, but at least they're moving!