QWAK,OK I am ready to try making this stuff

[GOLD DUCK]

QWAK,OK,I am ready to try making this stuff Colloidal Silver, and have read about various ways from 4 9 volt batteries to several hundred dollar gadgets that seem likely a RIP off to me.

If I can grind my own wheat and make it in to bread I can shurley make some of this SILVER STUFF and most likely have the equipment here to do it, I am inclined to believe.

What is the best way to get started? What is the best "KIT" to buy or asemble? Can I use .999 SILVER ROUNDS for electrodes?

I tried years ago to make "WHITE POWDER GOLD" and have two 1 oz. Maple leafs stained BLACK on the part of the coins suspended in the solution and it never did do what the experiment was intended to do so I don't want to spend a lot of time and hastles for a similar out come with Colloidal Silver!

A good BOOK I could order and sources for what I need would be apreciated!

BTW: I am thinking this SILVER WATER could posably be used as the water when making my bread?? Is that a good IDEA??

ALSO: Perhaps this "Colloidal Silver" could be the ONLY thing that could KILL the BIOLOGICAL man made MONSTER that BP has let lose on the world for eating OIL SPILLS!

http://worldvisionportal.org/wvpforu...hp?f=52&t=1031

That thing could actualy make "HUMAN ZOMBIES" a real posability and the CRAZIE ZOMBIE movies a posable REALITY too.

the DUCK

[SilverNuts&Bolts]

I started they way you want to go. trouble is, as the water gets more silver particles, the resistance drops, which increases the production of particles and soon, it goes to "overdrive". Without the right equipment, you don't realty know, how many parts/million you have. For that reason, it's best to buy a ready made kit.
I got Colloid Master, as was a reco, on our old site. Works great and the water can be used in a million ways. As long as it is kept in a dark inviro.
Good lucky, Ducky

[abeland1]

QWAK,OK,I am ready to try making this stuff Colloidal Silver, and have read about various ways from 4 9 volt batteries to several hundred dollar gadgets that seem likely a RIP off to me.

If I can grind my own wheat and make it in to bread I can shurley make some of this SILVER STUFF and most likely have the equipment here to do it, I am inclined to believe.

What is the best way to get started? What is the best "KIT" to buy or asemble? Can I use .999 SILVER ROUNDS for electrodes?

I tried years ago to make "WHITE POWDER GOLD" and have two 1 oz. Maple leafs stained BLACK on the part of the coins suspended in the solution and it never did do what the experiment was intended to do so I don't want to spend a lot of time and hastles for a similar out come with Colloidal Silver!

A good BOOK I could order and sources for what I need would be apreciated!

BTW: I am thinking this SILVER WATER could posably be used as the water when making my bread?? Is that a good IDEA??

ALSO: Perhaps this "Colloidal Silver" could be the ONLY thing that could KILL the BIOLOGICAL man made MONSTER that BP has let lose on the world for eating OIL SPILLS!

http://worldvisionportal.org/wvpforu...hp?f=52&t=1031

That thing could actualy make "HUMAN ZOMBIES" a real posability and the CRAZIE ZOMBIE movies a posable REALITY too.

the DUCK

The four nine volt batteries method that you mention is probably this one:

http://www.atlasnova.com/cs%20kit.pdf

It is intended for people who wish to learn the fundamentals of making really good colloidal silver. It will also allow you to overdo it and make yellow stuff. That still won't turn you blue. The laser pointer is very important. The model shown has a constant output, not like the cheap Chinese versions where the condition of the batteries determines the power output. This allows you to judge, after some practice, exactly the optimum point at witch to stop your process.
As far as buying a book about making colloidal silver is concerned, I think that we can do a good job of writing one right here on this forum. I have been making my own colloidal silver for over 40 years and using it to prevent my sinus cavities from becoming infected. This was once a big problem for me. Snorting good amounts of colloidal silver each day has solved that problem me and perhaps some others that I am unaware of.
The vast majority of colloidal silver generators on the market are vastly overpriced and are not able to produce an optimal product. People who buy these are not getting as badly hosed as those who are actually buying bottled colloidal silver. But they are still getting hosed.

[GOLD DUCK]

The four nine volt batteries method that you mention is probably this one:

http://www.atlasnova.com/cs%20kit.pdf

It is intended for people who wish to learn the fundamentals of making really good colloidal silver. It will also allow you to overdo it and make yellow stuff. That still won't turn you blue. The laser pointer is very important. The model shown has a constant output, not like the cheap Chinese versions where the condition of the batteries determines the power output. This allows you to judge, after some practice, exactly the optimum point at witch to stop your process.
As far as buying a book about making colloidal silver is concerned, I think that we can do a good job of writing one right here on this forum. I have been making my own colloidal silver for over 40 years and using it to prevent my sinus cavities from becoming infected. This was once a big problem for me. Snorting good amounts of colloidal silver each day has solved that problem me and perhaps some others that I am unaware of.
The vast majority of colloidal silver generators on the market are vastly overpriced and are not able to produce an optimal product. People who buy these are not getting as badly hosed as those who are actually buying bottled colloidal silver. But they are still getting hosed.

QWAK,abeland1,I just droped the hammer on this and bought the book too about 5 min. ago! LOL.

I probably did pay too much but it is all automatic so I supose it will make good stuff with out my having to watch it??

http://www.silvergen.com/colloidal_silver_generator.htm

the DUCK

[abeland1]

I started they way you want to go. trouble is, as the water gets more silver particles, the resistance drops, which increases the production of particles and soon, it goes to "overdrive". Without the right equipment, you don't realty know, how many parts/million you have. For that reason, it's best to buy a ready made kit.
I got Colloid Master, as was a reco, on our old site. Works great and the water can be used in a million ways. As long as it is kept in a dark inviro.
Good lucky, Ducky

I would be interested in learning where you heard that colloidal silver needs to be kept in a dark environment. In the old days some manufacturers added vinegar (acetic acid) so as to be able to reach a higher PPM. Of course, what they ended up making was silver acetate, which sounds like the stuff the use to put on black and white film. We have come a long way since then. This is not true with properly made colloidal silver in this day and age. Every one in the industry has accepted by now the fact that the current must be constrained to the of a local area of the silver anode.You probably started with the famous 3-9 volt batteries method which is all over the web. There is no way method of limiting the current with this method. What allows the current to flow in water are the ions themselves. As you increase the number of ions the resistance goes down and more current flows. Unless there is a limiting factor such as a resistor in series, the process runs away with itself. Within short order it will make a concoction of very large particles. This may not turn you blue, unless you also follow the terrible advice of adding salt or using tap water, which is also all over the web.

[abeland1]

QWAK,abeland1,I just droped the hammer on this and bought the book too about 5 min. ago! LOL.

I probably did pay too much but it is all automatic so I supose it will make good stuff with out my having to watch it??

http://www.silvergen.com/colloidal_silver_generator.htm

the DUCK

What did you pay for it? It is probably not the worst deal out there but you might want to compare it to this one for $49.00:


http://www.atlasnova.com/csginst.pdf

[ecenur]

I also heard that you would need to keep colloidal silver in a dark environment but, I don't really know if it is true or not. I'm looking into using colloidal silver, don't know yet if I want to start off with colloidal silver or Colloidal Gold , I heard that gold actually works pretty well too. Don't know yet. I think it's great that your going to be making them on your own, this is my first time hearing that someone wants to make it on their own, if you can do it then you should. Maybe when you start doing it more, you can let some of us know the steps. Good luck.

[GOLD DUCK]

QWAK,the generator arived and I bough a gallon of distilled water but have not read the book or tried making any yet.

I did check on the GOLD but it does not seem to work the same way. Or for any similar puropses.

What I would prefer to make is "WHITE POWDER GOLD" but don't have a working formula.

the DUCK

[Concours14]

"Blue, blue, my ass is blue, blue is my ass, and so is my poo"..

Why exactly are you doin' this, Quacker? You got the Blues?

[GOLD DUCK]

"Blue, blue, my ass is blue, blue is my ass, and so is my poo"..

Why exactly are you doin' this, Quacker? You got the Blues?

QWAK,What do YOU mean?? Is there some logical reason for your question? Are you just trying to be WITTY and only got 1/2 way there??

the DUCK

[Mr. Shiny]

What I would prefer to make is "WHITE POWDER GOLD" but don't have a working formula.

Well Qwakery is abundant, so go for it. Just don't kill yourself. And if you do die or cause someone else to expire you are on your own.

Just remember, dissolve during waning moon, precipitate during waxing moon, finish on the full moon and time is irrelevant. Do that and you will......I don't know.......disappear? Float? Have a harmonious brain?

http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/wgpowder.htm

[GOLD DUCK]

QWAK,Mr. Shiny, Thanks that was an interesting read and NOT the same process I tried a fiew years back ware an 18 Volt DC curent was used in a LIE solution with
.999 Maple leafs as the electrodes suspended in the solution. They just turned black ware they were suspended in the solution.

I will save the page and try it when I get a lab set up!

Perhaps this spring?

the DUCK

[Concours14]

QWAK,What do YOU mean?? Is there some logical reason for your question? Are you just trying to be WITTY and only got 1/2 way there?? the DUCK

Dood! I don't bust balls..Just askin'. 'Specially YOURS. Can'tcha buy the stuff? Not sayin' ya don't know what you're doing, but it's exact science. Is the money saved brewing it at home worth the price if you turn blue? Ok, ok, the blue thing is a metaphor, but Silver colloidal preps have to be just right, no?

Just asking..

[GOLD DUCK]

Dood! I don't bust balls..Just askin'. 'Specially YOURS. Can'tcha buy the stuff? Not sayin' ya don't know what you're doing, but it's exact science. Is the money saved brewing it at home worth the price if you turn blue? Ok, ok, the blue thing is a metaphor, but Silver colloidal preps have to be just right, no?

Just asking..

QWAK,Concours14,The generator I bought is the best I could find and makes better or as good as the best you can buy. I prefer NOT to be dependent on others for what I can do for my self -- I injoy being as independent as posable to me that equals FREEDOM and always has.

Less dependency = the most freedom

the DUCK

[Goldhedge]

There are a few here that have made it. It's not
Rocket Science. Just follow the recipe and it should
be just fine.

The only way you turn 'blue' is if you over ingest the stuff
on a daily basis. Kind of like turning orange/yellow from too
much carrot juice? You got to over dose on it.

[Argentum47]

I don't suppose any from the UK here has made their own Colloidal Silver or can recommend where to buy a kit.

Def going to give it a go but would prefer to make my own instead of buying as is pretty expensive over here.

[Lt Dan]

Make my own, have for over twenty years, have not turned blue or died from it, nothing has fallin' off, not rocket science.

I use .9999 silver wire that I buy by the foot - online from ccsilver.

I use 4 - 9 volt wired in series for 36 volts. I get the 9 volt battery adapters from Radio Shack, crimp on some wire connectors and a couple alligator clips to clip to the silver wires.

Bend the wires into what I call shepherd canes - clip those into a 1 quart measuring cup then just be sure not to let the solution get cloudy 10-15 minutes depending on water temperature. I use only filtered well water.

I cut a foot long piece of silver wire in half, it lasts a really long time.

I don't know how many of these things I've made for people over the years.

Oh, I store mine in an old brown glass beer bottle with a screw on cap right in the cupboard. Do not refrigerate. Best to remove the label so you won't get confused and try to drink the contents thinking it is beer.

[Malus]

Buy a ppm tester. I picked one up for $50 a couple years ago. Now, I control exactly how many ppm's in my drink........ The brainwashing of "blue dude" is so outrageous (the way he made it was redonkulous and the amounts he drank, whatever, just don't give him a gun) that I have to make weaker doses for the missus (5-7 ppm), I personally, crank it up (10-20 ppm). Haven't been sick once in the last 5 years since starting it (didn't even take that ever protecting H1N1 death shot to help me, hah). Just make it correctly and all is fine. I take a daily dose with a 1 month break every 6 months. The amount I normally take is a shot glass. I also use a 12VDC transformer. It takes longer, but, I like slow small particles better than bigger ones caused by the higher voltage input. Remember also to clean your silver every 1/2 hr (black gunk) while cooking. I also bought a cheap fish pump and some surgical tubing to keep the water agitated and flowing (helps the process). I'll see if I can post a picture of the contraption is this manage attachments problem is rectified.........

[GOLD DUCK]

QWAK,I put that generator to work and it was simple enough so I made a fiew batches and have been experimenting with uses for it.

I use it as a mouth wash then swallow it once a day -- have not noticed any changes but it can't hurt so I will continue.

I am going to try an experiment with my DUCK POND -- I have a high IRON content in my well water so I use a dose of swiming pool SHOCK treatment each time I do a water change and clean the DE FILTER.

I don't like using chemicals and in the passed tried using SILVER ROUNDS in the filter basket and even lining the tank with them -- it did not keep the water clean and the ROUNDS picked up a slightly orange tinge.

I will try adding a gallon of calloidal SILVER to the 350 gallon tank and see IF that has an effect!

I think there could be a problem with some IRON still in the water AFTER the SHOCK treatment or some of the shock chemicals NOT evaporating but it is worth a shot to try and distilled water is cheep and I can always make my own with a dehumidifier.

This is not about SILVER but it is another reason that making your own colloidal SILVER may be an important SURVIVAL ability in the future -- the powers that be are banning ALL hurbal medications in the UK and soon everyware so they can controll all health and food for every one!

http://www.thedailybell.com/1647/Ban...or-Health.html

the DUCK

[RealJack]

Colloidal silver flat out works for infections. Recently, one of my hens eyes swelled up and sealed shut overnight from some sort of eye infection.

She was completely blind and couldn't get down off the perch.

I quarantined her and sprayed a few drops worth of colloidal silver into her eyes approximately every 2 hours.

By the next morning she was good as new, I kid you not.

The stuff works great for nasal infections also as mentioned previously, and I consider it to be essential as a basic family home remedy.

I can't think of another nonprescription antibacterial type medicine, or even prescribed antibiotic medicine that can claim to work as well.

After saying all that though, I don't actually drink the stuff. I just use it on infections. Nose, mouth, throat, eyes, ears, cuts, scrapes, etc.

[RealJack]

so are you guys saying the stuff from the herbal markets, in the glass brown bottles, with eye droppers is a waste? I have no mean's to make the stuff but the bene's are proven. I recently picked up a 10mg dose bottle, states that i shouldn't use it more than 10 days straight.

This is all new to me and there is a ton of reading on it but anyone care to comment for a noob?

I'm not saying that at all. The stuff you're describing from the market is exactly what I used on the chickens eyes and it's what I use as a nasal spray.

Some folks tend to use it differently than I do though. They drink it and bath in it, so I can't respond to that since I never homemade it myself.

I will say though, that the latest bottle I bought was on sale for around $8.00 and it was 30ppm...and it has lasted for at least 6 months.

I just use it sparingly, myself. I think it's better than antibacterial cream, for instance, mixed with a little aloe.

[AceNZ]

If you're going to try making your own colloidal silver, make sure you understand the difference between ionic silver and colloidal silver. Most of the homemade generators make much more of the ionic form than they do the colloidal form. Another important factor is the colloid particle size. Smaller size particles tend to be much more effective than the larger ones, but they are also correspondingly more difficult to manufacture. For those reasons, ppm specs alone are not enough to define the effectiveness of the final material.

[abeland1]

If you're going to try making your own colloidal silver, make sure you understand the difference between ionic silver and colloidal silver. Most of the homemade generators make much more of the ionic form than they do the colloidal form. Another important factor is the colloid particle size. Smaller size particles tend to be much more effective than the larger ones, but they are also correspondingly more difficult to manufacture. For those reasons, ppm specs alone are not enough to define the effectiveness of the final material.

I fear that you have fallen under the spell of a master snake oil salesman. If you can convince someone that an atom is not a particle, then I suppose you can sell them anything, and at a high price at that. Silver is an element. An element is made up of identical atoms. An atom is the smallest particle of an element that can still remain as an element. If a silver atom becomes an ion by the removal of the single electron on the outer valance band it is still an atom, a particle, with a positive charge. As a matter of fact the only accepted clinical trials of the action of colloidal silver have been demonstrated by the ionic portion. This is not only because the ions are the smallest particles. The best theory we have at this time is that the slight positive charge of the silver atom enables it to somehow pierce the skin of some bacteria that happen to have a negative of charge, somehow disabling them. There is some argument for a certain amount of conglomerated silver in larger particles in that they would have more of a chance of entering your lower intestine for a problem there.

[GOLDBRIX]

All Electrically Isolated Silver ( EIS) will have ionic particles and particulate Ag (colloid). You do not get one without the other.
The longer you allow the process to work the more ions get converted to particulate and thus the color changes begin to occur.
TDS meters do not measure particulate Ag as there is no charge to the complete Ag atom(s). So in figuring ppms of Ag in distilled water one as to add 10 to 15% to get a more accurate Ag level.
If you have a laser pointer you can see the ions via the Tyndal Effect.
When a laser light points through plain Distilled Water the beam can not be seen. When Ag ions are present the beam will be visable through the water. Swirl / Stir the water and the sparkle of particulate ( colloid) becomes much more obvious.
AND
Most TDS meters are calibrated to saltwater ( NaCl). NaCl partical is slightly 2 - 2.5 times the size of an Ag atom.
So unless you re-calibrated your TDS Meter to the Ag level you will need to multiply the reading by 2 - 2.5 + 10 -15% for a more accurate ppm level.
This is still only a rough estimate as the only way to get a truely accurate reading you would need access to equipment on the level of an Atomic Microscope for an actual reading.

DYODD,
We Are Our Own Researchers,

GB