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    Default No Growth in Oil Production for 7 Years - Will Alternatives Arrive Soon Enough?

    No Growth in Oil Production for 7 Years - Will Alternatives Arrive Soon Enough?

    Written by Kurt Cobb
    Tuesday, 08 November 2011 13:45

    As oil prices rose ever higher in the last decade, the optimists kept predicting rising production capacity and plummeting prices. Looks like they got it wrong.

    We are entering what may be the longest stretch of no growth in world oil production since the early 1980s. But the reasons for that lack of growth differ in ways that ought to make us all uncomfortable.

    Starting in 1980, production slumped because for the first time in history people needed less oil. After the huge oil price increases in the 1970s, cars suddenly got smaller. People became more careful about combining trips to save gas. A lot of people switched their home heating to natural gas which was considerably cheaper than heating oil. And, in the United States the Congress severely restricted the use of oil for new electric power generating plants. Those using oil began to switch to cheaper natural gas and coal. The whole globe went on an energy efficiency binge.

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    Beyond this, the world went through two recessions, one in 1980 and the second in 1981-82 which turned out to be the worst since World War II (until the current one). That curbed oil demand as economic activity sank. All the while, large oil discoveries in Alaska and the North Sea and furious drilling elsewhere produced a glut of capacity that sent prices from a high near $40 a barrel in early 1981 to about $16 a barrel six years later. As it turned out, all of these factors combined to keep world oil production below its 1980 peak until 1988.

    Fast forward to 2005 when conventional oil supplies stopped growing and then fluctuated between 73 million and 74 million barrels per day on an annual basis through 2010. (Production averaged 73.8 million barrels per day this year from January through July, the last month for which data is available.) The chain of events following the 2005 peak are both different and worrisome. Following the cessation in growth of conventional oil supplies, the world economy continued to grow until the end of 2007 when it slipped into recession. Prices peaked in July 2008 at around $147 a barrel.

    But then they plunged to around $35 a barrel in December 2008 as the world sank into an economic slump worse than anything since The Great Depression. With it oil demand and production slumped as well. Then the price did something that few people expected. It bounced back even as overall global economic recovery remained sluggish. Rapid recovery in the Far East, however, created robust demand for oil even as North American and European countries remained locked into an unusually tepid rebound. As a result, last spring prices for Brent crude vaulted above $125.

    Six years from the ostensible topping out of conventional petroleum production, prices remain considerably higher. Oil prices finished 2005 around $50 a barrel. As of this writing, they are around $90 for Nymex crude and around $110 for Brent crude. This, of course, is exactly the opposite of the trend which occurred in the six years following the 1980 peak. Today, the often predicted rise in conventional supplies has failed to materialize, flummoxing the optimists so much that they simply ignore the data and talk of wonders yet to come.

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    Astute observers will say that this is not the whole picture. After all, high prices for a resource also stimulate substitutes for that resource. And, true enough, the substitutes for oil are starting to arrive. But the big question is: Will they arrive soon enough and at a scale that is large enough to make up for the current stagnation in the rate of oil production and the eventual and certain decline in that rate? So far the answer is no.

    What the U.S. Energy Information Administration, which is the statistical arm of the U.S. Department of Energy, used to call "total oil production" has now morphed into so-called "total liquids production." It's a tacit admission that conventional oil supplies cannot meet all our needs. But even total liquids production--which includes ethanol, biodiesel and natural gas liquids--has moved up only a paltry 2.6 percent during the entire period from the end of 2005 to today. Hence, the continuing high prices for liquid fuels.

    Now, it's not as if high prices haven't sent people looking for more oil and working on more substitutes. The problem is that all of this activity is facing a considerable headwind. It's called depletion. And, as they say in the oil patch, depletion never sleeps. It's going on in every operating well in every country around the clock, 365 days a year. Estimates suggest that the decline in current production capacity might be around 4 percent per year. That means that 4 percent of the current production capacity for oil must be replaced each year just to break even. And, of course, to grow supplies, new production capacity must exceed this amount. But it hasn't, and oil substitutes haven't really grown by any significant amount in the last six years either.

    The media loves to announce new seemingly large discoveries of oil as if they are the solution to what is really an unfolding liquid fuels crisis. They point to the Tupi field off Brazil which is purported to have 8 billion barrels of oil in it. And, they point to discoveries in the deepwater Gulf of Mexico thought to contain between 3 and 15 billion barrels. And, they point to the 24 billion barrels in the Bakken Shale in North Dakota. It all sounds like a lot. When I ask audiences how long a billion barrels of oil will last the world at current rates of consumption, I often get replies that range anywhere from three months to 5 years. The correct answer is 12 days. Just multiply these multi-billion-barrel discoveries by 12, and you'll realize right away that they are not going to overcome the constraints we are experiencing in oil supplies.

    Something else has to give, and that something is probably going to be consumption. Either consumption will decline as the result of a new slump in the economy--a slump partly caused by high oil prices--or it will decline because high prices will encourage people to be more frugal in their energy use. Many of the poorest in the world will no doubt have to do without.

    There is a third way. We could now begin a crash program to reduce our consumption of oil through new efficiency standards, higher energy taxes, expansion of convenient mass transit, and new energy-wise personal habits. All this would hurry the transition away from an energy source that will only become more problematic over time.

    The optimists would have you ignore the oil production and price data of the last six years. It's as if they are channeling the late comedian Richard Pryor known for his trademark phrase: "Who you gonna believe? Me or your lying eyes?" After six years of flat oil production in the face of record prices, it's time to start believing your lying eyes.

    By. Kurt Cobb

    Source: Resource Insights

    http://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil...on-Enough.html

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    Default Re: No Growth in Oil Production for 7 Years - Will Alternatives Arrive Soon Enough?

    Can't cars run on natural gas? Also we have a ton of it don't we?

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    Default Re: No Growth in Oil Production for 7 Years - Will Alternatives Arrive Soon Enough?

    yes on natgas,

    yes a lot of it,

    matter of fact, oil companies are throwing it away(burning it off or releasing it) in the Bakken rather than save it and send it to market due to current prices and distribution issues.

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    Depletion is a bitch. It will be very challenging for TPTB to continue to levitate the sham economy in an environment of depleting energy supplies...

    Kuntsler - even though he is a tad bit deranged has definitely got his eye on the ball on this issue. He has been hammering away at rebuilding our rail system for years. Dont get him started on the waste that is the suburban lifestyle or plastic salad shooters...
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    When you compare the rail system in the US with Europe, Japan or even China you realize we are living in the 1960's and the rest of the developed world has moved on.
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    agreed guys, and you can move a lot of product at lower cost per unit, along with less environmental impact than using 18 wheelers.

    if Fedex and UPS can set up worldwide distribution networks and centers, and do it all in a timely fashion, why cannot this be applied to a rail goods system?

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    agreed guys, and you can move a lot of product at lower cost per unit, along with less environmental impact than using 18 wheelers.

    if Fedex and UPS can set up worldwide distribution networks and centers, and do it all in a timely fashion, why cannot this be applied to a rail goods system?
    It could - but, we have leadership that is more interested in effective marketing of the Christmas tree industry...
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    The one good thing about this current economic morass we've found ourselves in is the demand for oil products has been temporarily moderated...and yet this has only allowed oil prices to hover at just under $100/barrel.

    Lord only knows what will happen if we actually do experience an economic boom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnome View Post
    When you compare the rail system in the US with Europe, Japan or even China you realize we are living in the 1960's and the rest of the developed world has moved on.

    I don't know about China's rail system, what area of the country it covers, but comparing the US to Europe or Japan is apples/oranges due to the size of those places.....most all of Europe would fit in Texas by comparison. When you have a small geographical area, and dense population, rail is a easy choice. But the reason rail was abandoned here was the economics of building/maintaining track to small populations in far flung corners.....it just didn't work with cheap oil......and it's hard to get back once you abandoned it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argentsum View Post
    The one good thing about this current economic morass we've found ourselves in is the demand for oil products has been temporarily moderated...and yet this has only allowed oil prices to hover at just under $100/barrel.

    Lord only knows what will happen if we actually do experience an economic boom.
    What I've been saying all along.....there won't be a boom because all good times are associated with a significant rise in energy use. Now with supplies getting tighter, the price rise will knock any boom back to it's knees. The fact they've hovered in the high 80/low 90 range for a year or two tells me any hint of recovery ( and attempt to increase use of oil ) will bring on 120+ oil real quick.

    IMHO, we're seeing the new norm, to be followed by higher oil down the road as even the current level of production can't be maintained forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TnAndy View Post
    What I've been saying all along.....there won't be a boom because all good times are associated with a significant rise in energy use. Now with supplies getting tighter, the price rise will knock any boom back to it's knees. The fact they've hovered in the high 80/low 90 range for a year or two tells me any hint of recovery ( and attempt to increase use of oil ) will bring on 120+ oil real quick.

    IMHO, we're seeing the new norm, to be followed by higher oil down the road as even the current level of production can't be maintained forever.
    I agree with your agreement. These are the best (we will get) of times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TnAndy View Post
    ...comparing the US to Europe or Japan is apples/oranges due to the size of those places..... .... But the reason rail was abandoned here was the economics of building/maintaining track to small populations in far flung corners.....it just didn't work with cheap oil......and it's hard to get back once you abandoned it.
    Yup. Big geography, cheap oil and middle class incomes that could afford 2 cars per home.

    Though some of it can just be blamed on stupid.

    The horrendous public transport (and the traffic) in Los Angeles that is not a population density issue, just an epic fail of urban planning. Also, the idea that there is not a high speed rail going Boston-NYC-Philthy-Baltimore-DC is just plain dumb. Or an i-95 route up and down the east coast. NYC to Miami would be about 8 hours - not bad compared to air travel and 1/3 the time to drive. Shorter trips would be faster than air, and a heck of a lot more comfortable.
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    Compare the sensible Chinese approach with the butt-backwards approach of the US with stuff like biodiesel....

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    On August 14th, a traffic jam started in China —
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    http://www.howigit.com/tag/china/

    Peak Oil is already here. A billion Chinese now demand to live like Americans just when the world oil supply is dropping. Worth the time to understand this.


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