UHR's bringing big bucks (hold and wait till next year)

[RoadKing]

When (approximately) are the 2012's due out?

RK

[TiKi]

When (approximately) are the 2012's due out?

RK

Don't know, they just wrapped up the 2011's. (this week)

[HistoryStudent]

Any "P" uncirculated satin finish US mint packaged or slabbed America the beautiful

5 ounce coins would be very smart to stack as much as you want for the future.


That includes 2010 2011 and soon 2012 when available.

You can buy some right now from the mint at around $210 plus each - or slabbed
for around $230 ish each. DYODD.

I myself prefer slabbed at near spot as close as possible. For later because they'll be easier
to trade or sell to the masses.

[jogslvr]

WOW! Looking at the Bay, the slabbed UHR 70's just keep on churning higher and higher. I'm getting very tempted to send in my identical triplets for 3PG.

[HistoryStudent]

WOW! Looking at the Bay, the slabbed UHR 70's just keep on churning higher and higher. I'm getting very tempted to send in my identical triplets for 3PG.

You are tempting me to send in my UHR proof like for grading plus a few more still in the US mint red wooden suitcases...

Best wishes old friend...


~ HS

[Oldmansmith]

You are tempting me to send in my UHR proof like for grading plus a few more still in the US mint red wooden suitcases...

Best wishes old friend...


~ HS

You probably don't need the money HS, but if I had extras I would be selling at least one right now.

Hell, I'd sell the one I DO have if my collector's gene wasn't kicking in!

But then I look at it...

[HistoryStudent]

I have a number of them ungraded (one is a PL) and some slabbed.


I just as soon have one in the box if I was not a collector.


~HS

BUMPED for another thread.

[HistoryStudent]

You probably don't need the money HS, but if I had extras I would be selling at least one right now.

Hell, I'd sell the one I DO have if my collector's gene wasn't kicking in!

But then I look at it...

These are a strange animal. Many go INTO the HIDE-Y HOLE once grabbed.


They made around 115K destroyed 85K and there are a VERY few PROOF LIKES out there.


For me I'm going to stay the course. This is one of the world's best coins. PERIOD.


It will always be in demand.

Who told YA in 2009, right?


BUY, BEG, BORROW or STEAL - but get at least ONE! ~ HS



So............

NGC has graded around 14,624 40% are 70s.
NGC has graded ONLY 1,665 PL

PCGS has graded 14,844 50% are 70s.
PCGS has graded ONLY 819 PL


about 32,000 of the 115,000 have been graded at least once. (that's the BUG-A-BOO some of these puppies have been sent in up to five times)

[Master_Ho]

These are a strange animal. Many go INTO the HIDE-Y HOLE once grabbed.

They made around 115K destroyed 85K and there are a VERY few PROOF LIKES out there.

For me I'm going to stay the course. This is one of the world's best coins. PERIOD.

It will always be in demand.

Who told YA in 2009, right?

BUY, BEG, BORROW or STEAL - but get at least ONE! ~ HS

So............

NGC has graded around 14,624 40% are 70s.
NGC has graded ONLY 1,665 PL

PCGS has graded 14,844 50% are 70s.
PCGS has graded ONLY 819 PL

about 32,000 of the 115,000 have been graded at least once. (that's the BUG-A-BOO some of these puppies have been sent in up to five times)

Exactly what I said about these coins some time back - these and my golden dragons will be the very last things to get sold.

This is the coin that got me interested in coins as a kid when I saw it.........this country has, arguably, made none better...........

I got five, one was a MS68 which I sold.......but I kept the four MS 69s.

EXACTLY WHAT HISTORY SAID!!!!

Cheers!

[southfork]

Went to the LakeLand show a week ago, guy had a uhr 70, I asked him the price and he said 1850, as I pulled out the cash the other guy came running over said nope, $7500 bucks

[Master_Ho]

Went to the LakeLand show a week ago, guy had a uhr 70, I asked him the price and he said 1850, as I pulled out the cash the other guy came running over said nope, $7500 bucks

Well, you could have argued that the price was quoted, agreed and set when you were paying - not that it would have done you much good.....except making the guys feel like **** for your trouble! *lol*

[HistoryStudent]

You buying graded?

EDIT: Looked at the P's and there are going for 2-3x more than the regulars.

BUY 69's like from MCM on sale. THE "P"s.


$229 for Vicksberg right now.

DOG GONE IT!

[southfork]

Well, you could have argued that the price was quoted, agreed and set when you were paying - not that it would have done you much good.....except making the guys feel like **** for your trouble! *lol*

Had the coin been in my hand and money exchanged it would have been hell, sometimes it's best to just walk away.

[Master_Ho]

Had the coin been in my hand and money exchanged it would have been hell, sometimes it's best to just walk away.

I know - and I agree - it was a bit tongue in cheek.........

But I've seen a few instances of the same and it got real ugly........

[HistoryStudent]

Went to the LakeLand show a week ago, guy had a uhr 70, I asked him the price and he said 1850, as I pulled out the cash the other guy came running over said nope, $7500 bucks

High retail is around $3,000 now ish.

I still think they are a BUY at that.

But that me if I did not have one I would at $3,000 ~ honest.



Soon all kinds of things will go no SUPPLY and then the demand will escalate the price something fierce.

[southfork]

High retail is around $3,000 now ish.

I still think they are a BUY at that.

But that me if I did not have one I would at $3,000 ~ honest.



Soon all kinds of things will go no SUPPLY and then the demand will escalate the price something fierce.

Dam the guy was trying to rob me too, I had no idea they werent that high.

[Argentium]

You probably don't need the money HS, but if I had extras I would be selling at least one right now.

Hell, I'd sell the one I DO have if my collector's gene wasn't kicking in!

But then I look at it...

I know the feeling, but have hopes that my UHR will be passed on to future generations, perhaps with some mention of the nutty old man that bought it.

[NotTheOne]

http://2009ultrahighreliefdoubleeagl...final-mintage/

I'm posting this as I keep hearing that "they minted 115,000 and destroyed 85,000". That seems to imply that there are only 30,000 left when that is not the case. Perhaps if it was said, "they minted & sold 115,000" the statement would be clearer. For the USM can mint coins and NOT sell them too.



2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Final Mintage

The 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle was available for purchase from the United States Mint from January 19, 2009 at 12:00 Noon ET until December 31, 2009 at 3:00 PM ET. During this period, total sales for the product reached 115,178. This amount has been considered the final mintage for the historic product offering.

At the start of sales, an order limitation of only one coin per household was imposed. Despite this limit, within five days the US Mint had sold more than 40,000 coins. In subsequent weeks, the pace of orders decline with sales of 50,000 coins reached by March 2009.

On July 27, 2009, more than six months after the coins went on sale, the US Mint raised the product ordering to limit to ten coins per household. By this time sales had already reached 70,000 coins. The timing of the adjustment to the limit was fortuitous. At the World’s Fair of Money held in Baltimore one week later, the US Mint offered the coins for sale at its booth. Some dealers used this as an opportunity to build an inventory, offering a bounty for anyone willing to purchase the coins from the Mint and immediately turn them over. Sales quickly rose above the 80,000 level.

On August 31, 2009, the ordering limit was increased to 25 coins per household.

Less than one month later on September 21, 2009, the ordering limit was completely removed. By this time sales had exceeded 90,000 coins.

On December 10, 2009, the US Mint announced that orders would only be accepted for the 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagles until December 31, 2009. The final sales achieved through the deadline reached 115,178.

Pricing for the 2009 UHR Double Eagle varied during the course of the offering. The US Mint used a pricing grid, which calculated the issue price based on the average market price of gold, with price changes made effectively as frequently as once per week. The initial price of the coin was $1,189 and the highest price during the course of the offering was $1,539.

More than a year after the conclusion of sales, the US Mint revealed that they still had 85,000 of the 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagles remaining in inventory. Their stated plans were to melt all of these unsold coins. An additional 60,000 unused planchets were also on hand, which the US Mint intended to potentially use for other numismatic product offerings.

[cpthnsolo]

Went to the LakeLand show a week ago, guy had a uhr 70, I asked him the price and he said 1850, as I pulled out the cash the other guy came running over said nope, $7500 bucks

WoWzErS! That's too bad SF. Honestly if anyone in the hobby deserves a gift like that it's you so it's too bad that steal didn't work out. Hope you've been well buddy .

[jogslvr]

Lately on ebay, Raw UHR's in original mint pac bringing over $3000. Based on recent completed sales.

[HistoryStudent]

Lately on ebay, Raw UHR's in original mint pac bringing over $3000. Based on recent completed sales.

Jordan said these were GOOD for appreciation back in 2008 - before they were minted.

It all about numbers. The ones that have hold them like they are ten ounce bars....

[chief]

Not complaining but it seems like the UHR has been stuck around the $3k mark for the past 4-6 months (give or take $150). I thought for sure this thing would be higher now.