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    The Truth About Your Birth Certificate...


    "...a Republic, if you can keep it!" Ben Franklin - Statesman

    Truth requires no law. Ignorance of the law is no excuse!

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    "Money is the future idea of value." Armstrong

    "Pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance." Sun Tzu

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    In vexillum of angelus quod liberi ... nos vadum reperio fidelis

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    Minimus, I don't believe it.

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    It's worth whatever amount of debt that can be levied against it.

    Presently $48,300.10 is levied against your birth cert. It grows exponentially.

    The notional value of your birth certificate is whatever number they assign it as bond against that debt.
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    My birth certificate doesn't have this...
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    The only sovereigns that the nations of the world recognize are themselves. There's no doubt about that. That they treat us as commodities and livestock from which they derive gain in various ways (taxation, regulation, wealth extraction, conscription), there exists no doubt either. That we are, in fact, slaves, despite all appearance to the contrary, is unquestionably true. But that each of us is represented by a number on a stock exchange, of that I do have significant doubt. Some proof of that claim would be welcome.

    My birth certificate has no numbers like those in the video.

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    From our friends in Canada...

    "...a Republic, if you can keep it!" Ben Franklin - Statesman

    Truth requires no law. Ignorance of the law is no excuse!

    Derivatives are contracts whose value is derived from stocks, bonds, loans, currencies and
    commodities, or linked to specific events such as changes in interest rates or the weather.

    "Money is the future idea of value." Armstrong

    "Pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance." Sun Tzu

    Be the change you want to see in the world. Gandhi

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    QWAK,I thought that COWS with GUNS could stop them but I now think I was wrong.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQMbXvn2RNI

    Even well armed DUCKS can only slightly delay them.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7iYz1JpYnw

    Now I am confused

    When they come for ME -- Should I SHOOT them or just LAUGH at them -- I may just do BOTH and IF they don't kill me on the spot they will likely lock me up and tell every one the DUCK is just CRAZY -- and by then -- I may actualy believe them!

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    People SELDOM look for TRUTH! What they look for is CONFERMATION that what they have chosen to believe IS TRUTH! This is why people will believe almost ANY THING and also WHY the WORLD is SO MESSED UP!

    IT is never realy OVER -- things just CHANGE!

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    So the problem is that we're sold into bondage via a birth certificate.... what is the solution? How can this be prevented? How do adults absolve themselves of this control? What about the unborn? And when the unborn reach employment or college age?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AG Stacker View Post
    So the problem is that we're sold into bondage via a birth certificate.... what is the solution? How can this be prevented? How do adults absolve themselves of this control? What about the unborn? And when the unborn reach employment or college age?
    QWAK,AG Stacker,The only way to WIN a riged game is NOT play the GAME or get OUT as soon as you become aware it is riged!

    In every way you can OPT OUT stop buying in to the ILUSIONS that you now know can NEVER come true.

    Change how you see and relate to every thing based on the REALITY you know exists out side the BUBBLE they create for you to exist in.

    Don't break the laws or confront THEM directly but in small ways avoid FEEDING the BEAST -- it needs DEBT to grow so get out of debt -- don't use credit cards or pay them off each month.

    Ultimitly the ONLY power they have is the POWER we all SURENDER to them -- stop SURENDERING -- it wil help KILL the BEAST -- the death of BILLIONES of indivigual people saying "NO" -- and refusing to BEND OVER and accept THERE DOMINATION!

    The less DEPENDENT you are on the SYSTEM the less power it has over you.

    the DUCK
    "ALL is ONE" What we DO to and FOR others we DO "TO and FOR" our selves ultimitly!

    People SELDOM look for TRUTH! What they look for is CONFERMATION that what they have chosen to believe IS TRUTH! This is why people will believe almost ANY THING and also WHY the WORLD is SO MESSED UP!

    IT is never realy OVER -- things just CHANGE!

    You can QUOTE me on ALL! It IS what I believe to be TRUE!

    I AM, the DUCK

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    I can't vouch for these kinds of concepts, but it is interesting stuff.

    When you consider the fact that our money went from 'Certified' funds - to 'Notes', it's just another piece of the puzzle.

    It's legal manipulation to our detriment. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

    It doesn't matter that public education and our society doesn't foster the teaching of 'the law'. In fact they make it a point to avoid teaching it. It is up to each person to delve into the law.

    Oh, they teach what they want about 'law' to keep the people in line - following the moral code they want you to believe in.

    Does a birth certificate financially bond you over to the government? There's plenty of evidence that it does.
    Why else have them? When did they begin 'certifying' births and 'why?' It wasn't always so.

    Questions for everyone to consider...
    "...a Republic, if you can keep it!" Ben Franklin - Statesman

    Truth requires no law. Ignorance of the law is no excuse!

    Derivatives are contracts whose value is derived from stocks, bonds, loans, currencies and
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    "Money is the future idea of value." Armstrong

    "Pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance." Sun Tzu

    Be the change you want to see in the world. Gandhi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldhedge View Post
    Does a birth certificate financially bond you over to the government?
    Does it actually bond you? Or do they create a bond/trust of your PERSON, and pretend you are the surety, and `trustee' while they assume the role of the administrator/executor-trix/beneficiary? Are you not the administrator/executor-trix/beneficiary of that bond/trust, and any public corporate 'official' (all of them in any corporate or government office) is/are the trustee. Isn't that how public policy is supposed to work? The fact that it doesn't is the question.


    I believe Dean Clifford has some interesting things about that particular morass...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bemac View Post
    My birth certificate doesn't have this...
    Quote Originally Posted by silverblood View Post
    My birth certificate has no numbers like those in the video.
    Mine doesn't either. Is it not possible that they have been tinkering, fine tuning the system for a long time? Some of us have been around a while, and others have do not have 'certificates' for various reasons.


    Quote Originally Posted by AG Stacker View Post
    So the problem is that we're sold into bondage via a birth certificate....
    Not just with the birth certificate, or the social security certificate, or the drivers license, or the voter registration, on and on, although any of those will suffice granting jurisdiction of you to their means...

    It depends almost completely on your unknowing, or willing (as in vested interest) consent, and of course, your signature to that effect...

    If we all stopped signing for a day, what would happen?

    Doesn't it all depend on velocity?
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    What is the "legal" difference between a Birth Certificate with Upper & lower Case letters, and one using ALL CAPITAL LETTERS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Sure View Post
    What is the "legal" difference between a Birth Certificate with Upper & lower Case letters, and one using ALL CAPITAL LETTERS?
    I assume you are asking about the name upon the birth certificate. I also assume that you understand that the same question applies to the social security card, drivers license, warrants, that is, any form of identification by government or corporations

    It has been an endlessly studied subject, but since it involves trust law, information or rather verification of information is not easily found.

    It would require volumes, and I am not a garrulous writer, so here is a few starting points.

    The all cap name is a CESTUI QUI TRUST, however it is used as a CONSTRUCTIVE TRUST in commerce today. This I feel is the main fraud, and what they use to enslave us...

    This pic is from England I believe, but the same applies here:

    Click image for larger version. 

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    This is just the beginning, but I'm sure you get the idea...
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    Default Re: The Truth About Your Birth Certificate...

    Thanks for the reply. My BC is upper & lower case, per standard English, issued four decades ago. Perhaps that's why "they" haven't tried to lock me up or kill me yet?

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