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    Default Ira Epstien's Jan 12 Gold Report

    http://www.iraepstein.com/uploads/Go...12,%202012.pdf


    It's PDF, so no copy/paste, but the bottom line is that Gold is currently oversold, NOT imbedded. He's looking for a technical rally in the Euro, which would mean weakness in the USD and strength in Gold. Overall, he's nuetral, looking for a pullback to around 1605 for entry. His only hope for continued strength in Gold from here is something out of Iran.

    It's short, and worth the click. I might add Gold is $20 off it's highs today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eat Beef View Post
    http://www.iraepstein.com/uploads/Go...12,%202012.pdf


    It's PDF, so no copy/paste, but the bottom line is that Gold is currently oversold, NOT imbedded. He's looking for a technical rally in the Euro, which would mean weakness in the USD and strength in Gold. Overall, he's nuetral, looking for a pullback to around 1605 for entry. His only hope for continued strength in Gold from here is something out of Iran.

    It's short, and worth the click. I might add Gold is $20 off it's highs today.
    I just read the following from Jim Sinclair

    http://www.jsmineset.com/

    Are Sinclair and Epstein agreeing ?

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    No, Ira is saying wait for a pullback and get a high probability entry. Sieligman is saying "buy now, before it's too late, too the moon", just like he was saying at $1900.
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    No, Ira is saying wait for a pullback and get a high probability entry. Sieligman is saying "buy now, before it's too late, too the moon", just like he was saying at $1900.
    Please Beef! Quit pickin' on Seiligman. He didn't crown that accidental spawn with his name. Traders an' pumpers be two different animals.
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    Epstein...Seligman...are we getting our PM investing advise from members of the banking tribe?
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    Epstein...Seligman...are we getting our PM investing advise from members of the banking tribe?
    Buy aluminum!
    I calls 'em as I sees 'em. No "sugar coating" here.

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    Default Re: Ira Epstien's Jan 12 Gold Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Eat Beef View Post
    http://www.iraepstein.com/uploads/Go...12,%202012.pdf


    It's PDF, so no copy/paste, but the bottom line is that Gold is currently oversold, NOT imbedded. He's looking for a technical rally in the Euro, which would mean weakness in the USD and strength in Gold. Overall, he's nuetral, looking for a pullback to around 1605 for entry. His only hope for continued strength in Gold from here is something out of Iran.

    It's short, and worth the click. I might add Gold is $20 off it's highs today.
    I started subscribing to Ira's emails about 1 1/2 years ago, just to try to learn something about technicals.... I always wondered what people thought about him, and his accuracy.

    This is the first time I have seen ANYONE mention his name.....The local moneybags that I work for trade rediculously, they never talk of him, two have said they'd never heard of him.

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    Alf Fields just released a new missive that says the correction in gold is over (barring an oddball event) and that the next macro target is $4500
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    Please Beef! Quit pickin' on Seiligman. He didn't crown that accidental spawn with his name. Traders an' pumpers be two different animals.

    Am I missing another GIM inside joke ( like everybody here has had an ungodly number of boating accidents) I posted a Jim Sinclair http://www.jsmineset.com/ article and Beef came back with Seiligman ?

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    Am I missing another GIM inside joke ( like everybody here has had an ungodly number of boating accidents) I posted a Jim Sinclair http://www.jsmineset.com/ article and Beef came back with Seiligman ?
    Pedigree Sir, pedigree.
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    Am I missing another GIM inside joke ( like everybody here has had an ungodly number of boating accidents) I posted a Jim Sinclair http://www.jsmineset.com/ article and Beef came back with Seiligman ?
    "Jim Sinclair" is really a Seiligman. Seriously, you follow this "guru" and you don't know this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoarder View Post
    Epstein...Seligman...are we getting our PM investing advise from members of the banking tribe?
    Where else would we get it? Did you not buy PMs when the Ratshields themselves set the fix?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eat Beef View Post
    "Jim Sinclair" is really a Seiligman. Seriously, you follow this "guru" and you don't know this?
    give me a break beef. i'm still a newbie. Personally, I've never been in an environment where there are so many 'gurus' with such completely different opinions

    I'm trying to get a grip on EW, Early Warning Report, Jim Rogers, PIIGs, Bernanke, France, Germany, silver, gold, paper, fiat, .... there's a lot to cover and no shortage of opinions.

    So ... I'm watching gold and looking for $1605

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lugnutzpop View Post
    I started subscribing to Ira's emails about 1 1/2 years ago, just to try to learn something about technicals.... I always wondered what people thought about him, and his accuracy.

    This is the first time I have seen ANYONE mention his name.....The local moneybags that I work for trade rediculously, they never talk of him, two have said they'd never heard of him.

    -L
    Ira's like everyone else, he wins some and he loses some. He's good at picking supply and resistance points, and AFAIK he's the father of imbedded stochastics. I don't follow anyone blindly (including myself, I hope), but I check his freebies out. I'm not sending ANYONE a check...
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    give me a break beef. i'm still a newbie. Personally, I've never been in an environment where there are so many 'gurus' with such completely different opinions

    I'm trying to get a grip on EW, Early Warning Report, Jim Rogers, PIIGs, Bernanke, France, Germany, silver, gold, paper, fiat, .... there's a lot to cover and no shortage of opinions.

    So ... I'm watching gold and looking for $1605
    All apologies. There are just so many folks around who blindly follow the guy that I'm eternally chaffed by him.
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    All apologies. There are just so many folks around who blindly follow the guy that I'm eternally chaffed by him.
    No problem - I didn't take it personal. I got here a few months ago - had no idea how naive I was - I actually had to google the word "fiat"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eat Beef View Post
    No, Ira is saying wait for a pullback and get a high probability entry. Sieligman is saying "buy now, before it's too late, too the moon", just like he was saying at $1900.
    Sinclair started Mineset in 2003 - the year I went all in. The returns have been beyond all expectations. I can see no case for dismissing him as a flake. Did you follow his advice - no leverage, take delivery of gold, hold certificates if you buy mining companies. Pretty simple and many got rich from it.

    Secondly, Sinclair was way out front about the derivative time bomb. He gave a very sound explanation of how the over the counter derivative market worked and what the consequences would be - all in evidence during the 07- 08 collapse and subsequent taxpayer bailout.

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    Dear Jim,

    This was posted at LeMetropole Cafe today. Is this the start of the storm?

    “I just noticed today that two days ago Blackrock filed a 13G with the SEC, reporting a 10.4% ownership position in Agnico Eagle (AEM) stock. We won’t know for sure if this is part of a larger wave of big institutional money flowing into the extraordinarily cheap mining stock sector, but just like hedge funds are "monkey see, monkey do," big institutions tend to run in herds…”

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    true but stupid that euro and gold trend together - while being polar opposites

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph View Post
    give me a break beef. i'm still a newbie. Personally, I've never been in an environment where there are so many 'gurus' with such completely different opinions

    I'm trying to get a grip on EW, Early Warning Report, Jim Rogers, PIIGs, Bernanke, France, Germany, silver, gold, paper, fiat, .... there's a lot to cover and no shortage of opinions.

    So ... I'm watching gold and looking for $1605
    it's a load to deal with

    are you trying to profit, or understand what's going on?

    two different animals, so choose one and we can narrow our advice..
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    Personally, I've never been in an environment where there are so many 'gurus' with such completely different opinions
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    Quote Originally Posted by EO 11110 View Post
    it's a load to deal with

    are you trying to profit, or understand what's going on?

    two different animals, so choose one and we can narrow our advice..
    Both - I have the basics down: "Buy low -sell high"
    - but really looking to understand it all. It's a fascinating world - wish I would have known about it many years ago - but I didn't. So I'm here now.

    I figure if I can gain a good understanding of what's really going on I should be able to make better decisions that will help with the profits. (not trying to be a smart a$$)


    This world of money, gold, fiat, banking, stock market, intrigue, flim-flam, jam-and-scam, liars, cheats, whores, cartels, et al is fascinating - I'm hooked.

    AND - I own and possess physical gold and silver now !!! BOOYAAH !!! looking for more - c'mon $1605 !!!
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    Sinclair started Mineset in 2003 - the year I went all in. The returns have been beyond all expectations. I can see no case for dismissing him as a flake.

    Big deal. If he was prescient like most of his followers believe, he should have started it in 00 or 01. I've never dismissed him as a flake, I've pointed out that he is a fraud, albeit a smoother operator than Hommel.

    Did you follow his advice - no leverage, take delivery of gold, hold certificates if you buy mining companies. Pretty simple and many got rich from it.

    I went all in before I even heard of Jim Sinclair. I have never "taken his advice", though I have made moves similar to what he advises. The "hold certificates thing is complete rubbish, but I guess it makes you look good with shortsighted people who need a guru.

    Secondly, Sinclair was way out front about the derivative time bomb. He gave a very sound explanation of how the over the counter derivative market worked and what the consequences would be - all in evidence during the 07- 08 collapse and subsequent taxpayer bailout.
    I was also "way out front" about derivatives. Perhaps folks should worship me?

    Sincliar has been making an untold fortune shorting his own company while telling his readers "buy, buy, buy". That causes me to view anything he says and especially his ardent supporters with scrutiny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eat Beef View Post
    I was also "way out front" about derivatives. Perhaps folks should worship me?

    Sincliar has been making an untold fortune shorting his own company while telling his readers "buy, buy, buy". That causes me to view anything he says and especially his ardent supporters with scrutiny.
    Got Any Proof?

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    Got Any Proof?
    Look at a TRX chart?

    Edit: Look up the insider trades too.
    I calls 'em as I sees 'em. No "sugar coating" here.

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    Got Any Proof?
    What G said. Why is Turd Royalty whatever it's name is this week less than one third the price it was when gold was 1/3 what it is now?
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