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    Default Fort Knox’s Vanishing Act

    The real magic is how we have been duped for so long.

    http://www.321gold.com/editorials/ko...cha021812.html

    Hiding the Elephant: Fort Knox’s Vanishing Act

    Kal Kotecha
    Posted Feb 18, 2012

    In one of Harry Houdini’s finest moments as a magician, he made a 6,000-pound, Asian elephant disappear – into thin air. Billed as the “world’s most incredible conjuring illusion”, Houdini swept onto the stage at the New York Hippodrome in 1918 and proclaimed “allow me to introduce Jennie, the world's only vanishing elephant.”

    The elephant was then escorted into a large colored cabinet. The doors were closed. The stage was set and the drum roll began. Moments later, with a flourish, Houdini flung open the doors of the box. Six thousand pounds of elephantine flesh had vanished into thin air. The crowd went wild.

    In the years that followed, Houdini presented that trick to wide-eyed audiences of a million and more. Magic historian, Jim Steinmeyer, exactingly chronicled this – and other - conjuring tricks in “Hiding the Elephant”, an exposé of stage illusions.

    In 1933, with America five-years deep into The Depression, the stage was set for a magic act of unprecedented proportions. History shows a wicked warlock at work.

    On March 6, 1933, Executive Order (EO) 6073 was passed by Franklin Delano Roosevelt (FDR), the 32nd President of the United States in an attempt to solve the dire banking crisis. Executive orders have been around since 1789, allowing Presidents to issue legally binding orders unilaterally, without the consent of Congress. During his Presidential tenure, from 1933 to 1945, Roosevelt would issue 3,728 Executive Orders. This was his third and it was a doozy.

    Just two days after Roosevelt was inaugurated as President, he proclaimed a “banking holiday”. From and including Monday, March 6, 1933 to Thursday, March 9, 1933 no bank “would pay out, export, earmark, or permit the withdrawal or transfer in any manner or by any device whatsoever of any gold or silver coin or bullion or take any other action which might facilitate the hoarding thereof…” Sold to the American people as an attempt to control speculation and regulate interest rates, he closed America’s banks, thwarting customers from withdrawing their paper money holdings or converting their holdings to gold.

    With a swish of his magic wand, Roosevelt mastered “complete control over America's banking system”, expanding his Presidential powers exponentially in the process.

    In his first “Fireside Speech” (which burned the backside of many Americans) on March 12, 1933 Roosevelt declared “Let me make it clear to you that the banks will take care of all needs, except, of course, the hysterical demands of hoarders, and it is my belief that hoarding during the past week has become an exceedingly unfashionable pastime in every part of our nation. It needs no prophet to tell you that when the people find that they can get their money -- that they can get it when they want it for all legitimate purposes -- the phantom of fear will soon be laid. People will again be glad to have their money where it will be safely taken care of and where they can use it conveniently at any time. I can assure you, my friends, that it is safer to keep your money in a reopened bank than it is to keep it under the mattress.”

    On June 16, 1933, EO 6073 passed into legislation as the “Emergency Banking Act (EBA)”. After only 40 minutes’ debate in the House of Representatives, with an unknown author and no printed copies available for members of the House, the Bill was passed swiftly and without due process. The wand was waved again.

    At the time, Congressman Lundeen, appalled at the reckless lack of due process involved in the passing of this Bill said “I want to put myself on record against procedure of this kind and against the use of such methods in passing legislation affecting millions of lives and billions of dollars. It seems to me that under this bill thousands of small banks will be crushed and wiped out of existence, and that money and credit control will be still further concentrated in the hands of those who now hold the power…. I am suspicious of this railroading of bills through our House of Representatives, and I refuse to vote for a measure unseen and unknown.”

    Meanwhile, Executive Order 6073 paved the way for Executive Order 6102 on April 5, 1933.

    This Executive Order (EO) made it a criminal act to possess gold coins, gold bullion and gold certificates within the continental United States and ordered that the hoarded gold be delivered to the Government on or before May 1, 1933. The official price of gold was raised from $20.67 to $35/ounce.

    Although it is unknown just how much gold was confiscated by means of Executive Order 6102, numbers suggest that by January 1934, there were 195.1 million ounces and 227.9 million ounces by August 1934.

    The Government had to have some place to hoard the confiscated gold. So, Executive Order 6102 paved the way to Fort Knox. The U.S. Treasury Department began construction of the United States Bullion Depository (USBD) in 1936. Completed in December of that year, at a cost of US$560,000, the Gold Vault sits in a 109,000-acre Army enclave in Fort Knox, Kentucky.

    The U.S. Mint states that 147.3 million ounces of gold are now tucked into Fort Knox. Guarded by Apache helicopter gunships and tucked into a bunker with a bomb-proof roof and thick granite walls, you’d think that 147.3 million ounces of gold would be safe in the vault. While Treasury officials insist that the “gold is all there”, why the resistance to a public audit? Congress begs off, saying it will cost US$60 million to test the gold. Other figures bandied about suggest US$15 million. Other so-called experts contest both figures, stating that an independent audit and assay could be conducted for as little as US$15,000.

    More nefarious are that the numbers don’t add up…and never have. In his article The Great American Disaster: How Much Gold Remains In Fort Knox?, dated August 27, 2010, Chris Weber states that, at their peak in 1949, the Fort Knox reserves reputedly numbered 701 million ounces – 69.9% of all the gold on the planet. The latest figures reported by the U.S. Mint state that 147.3 million ounces of gold are now tucked into Fort Knox. Treasury subsequently downgraded this figure from 264 million ounces of gold, a decline of 79%! Lucy, you got some ‘splainin’ to do.

    Clearly, the road to – and from - Fort Knox is paved in gold and not-so-gold intentions. Tales of pillaging, profiteering and skullduggery abound at the crossroads of Bullion Boulevard and Gold Vault Road. Masked interlopers didn’t rob the USDB. Reputed to be the second most secure place in the world (as reported in The Blogington’s post of September 21, 2010), the video cams, armed guards, attack helicopters, armored personnel carriers, and 30,000 soldiers guarding Fort Knox guaranteed that.

    For over 50 years, while domestically it was a crime to hold gold, there is little doubt that well-heeled Americans - and America’s enemies, operating offshore, were able to procure gold at the bargain basement price of $35/ounce.

    Not surprising that Fort Knox’s 22-ton door is locked to an audit. For almost 40 years, no visitors have been allowed in the grounds of the Gold Depository. Considered one of the eight most secure places in the world, we’re not getting in for a sneak peek anytime soon. In the last recorded “audit”, in the early 50’s, a group of Congressmen and Senators were taken on a quick tour of Fort Knox and allowed to peek into a few vaults. They reported seeing “orange-hued gold bars”. Lucy, you got more ‘splainin’ to do.

    In his article “The Great American Disaster: How Much Gold Remains In Fort Knox?”, Chris Weber outlines details about the one “audit” of Fort Knox, as follows:

    “The only audit that has ever been done of the gold inside Ft Knox was done days after Dwight Eisenhower became President in January of 1953. After 20 years of Democratic presidents, the American public wanted to be sure that the gold confiscated from them was still there. Thus, the new President ordered an audit within hours after taking office.

    The central problem was that it wasn't much of an audit. To sum it up:

    Representatives of the audited group were allowed to make the rules governing the audit. No outside private experts were allowed.

    Those government bureaucrats involved were inexperienced in their tasks, by their own admission.

    The entire audit of the largest gold hoard ever concentrated in history lasted only seven days.

    Only a fraction of the gold was actually tested. Later, the officials put this fraction at just 5%.

    Based on that fraction, the official committee reported that, in their opinion, all the holdings would have matched their records if they'd all been tested.

    If the audit was accurate, the fact remains that almost 80% of it went overseas in the coming years. If the audit was not accurate, the amount of gold lost could have been even more. “

    On September 23, 1974, Mary Brooks, the Director of the United States Mint, led a tour of members of Congress and the news media through the USBD. There was no audit or inventory of the gold and no other public “inspection” has been allowed since then.

    Why won’t the Mint comment about how much gold is there? Perhaps the acid test is not so much as what has happened to the gold in Fort Knox; but rather is there gold in Fort Knox? And if so, how much…..or how little?

    In a feat worthy of The Great Houdini himself, the Fort Knox gold may be the World’s Greatest Vanishing Act ever.
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    The parts about how it is guarded by 30,000 troops and Apache attack helos is bullcrap.
    They have the US Mint Police guarding it, period. If there was some kind of assault on the place over several hours I guess they could get something going with the Army, but it is not the norm. I was stationed there until 2003 [when I retired], everytime I enter post I pass it, and my wife drives by it at least two times a day. I cannot reveal details, but the TP are stand offish and do not co-ordinate well with the Post command structure, they "go it alone".
    There is a lot of BS out there about the place, this part you should know, it has the main entrace on the main post entrance road, before the main gate, US highway 31W borders another side, the place is just not that big, it is a big open area around it no trees to the fence line. Fort Knox is many acres, but the Bullion Depostory is not.
    You can easily see it from the highway and photograph all you want, if you pull over in the entrance road to photograph they will tell you to leave. A guy working at one of the motels in Radcliff was on the HS football team back in the 1970's and was hired to move gold around when they did an inventory back then [note the story says there was not an inventory - more BS]. He said it all was very dirty, and there was stuff like real old empty cigarette packs laying around and soda bottles.

    I dislike when they make crap up, another article said it had an Armored Division guarding it, when there was no deployable Armor at all [just the Armor School]. The Armor School is moved to Fort Benning, so the post is changing, lot of lesbian "HR" clerks etc. Creepy to see them in the Commisary and Walmart.

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    This Executive Order (EO) made it a criminal act to possess gold coins, gold bullion and gold certificates within the continental United States and ordered that the hoarded gold be delivered to the Government on or before May 1, 1933. The official price of gold was raised from $20.67 to $35/ounce.
    Does anybody know if people were recieving the new 35 dollar an ounce price for their Gold when they had to turn it in? If so I bet some were happy to turn it in and make the FRN gain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andial View Post
    Does anybody know if people were recieving the new 35 dollar an ounce price for their Gold when they had to turn it in? If so I bet some were happy to turn it in and make the FRN gain.
    QWAK,andial,They got nice new $20.00 bills for each $20.00 GOLD EAGLE -- later that year the official GOLD price was rased to $35.00 NO they were NOT happy campers but about 1/2 the people were in soup lines and not many had any GOLD so not much to fight about!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOLD DUCK View Post
    QWAK,andial,They got nice new $20.00 bills for each $20.00 GOLD EAGLE -- later that year the official GOLD price was rased to $35.00 NO they were NOT happy campers but about 1/2 the people were in soup lines and not many had any GOLD so not much to fight about!

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    Oh, thanks Duck. Not even a stick of chewing gum as a thank you to go along with the twenty dollars? And yet the people went on trusting the government, go figure.

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    A clarification on the $20 vs $35 price for the gold seized from the people. It was much more underhanded than most people even know.

    • FDR required people to turn in their gold coins and gold certificates $s and in return they received $20 in Federal Reserve Notes for each ounce.
    • The physical gold was actually surrendered to the US Treasury via the banking system.
    • FDR in having taken possession of the physical gold, then issued US Treasury gold certificates to the Federal Reserve. This covered the $20 in FRNs created for each ounce.
    • It was handled this way because while FDR could make gold ownership illegal in the USA, he had no power to do it outside the USA. i.e. A foreign bank could redeem their FRNs for gold by turning in their $s. The FR would then redeem a gold certificate for the physical gold and hand it over to the foreign bank.
    • FDR then revalued gold to $35/ounce. While this sounds good, nobody owned gold at this point as they now had the $20 FRNs which did not increase in value. Hence FDR by this last step devalued the $s held by the peole by 70%.
    • This gold revaluation also allowed the Federal Reserve to print up another $15/ounce for the gold turned which was then handed over to FDR. This is the money FDR used to spend on this 1930s social programs.
    • Finally the Federal Reserve base money was expanded by 2/3rs as well which, when fractional reserve banking is applied, makes tons of money for the banksters. People who otherwise provided no benefit to society.


    It was probably one of the greatest thefts of the people's wealth in mankind's history. This is what putting private bankers in control of the currency means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HairHopper View Post
    It was probably one of the greatest thefts of the people's wealth in mankind's history.
    Very true. And yet today there is another sucking sound going on that is extracting the gold wealth out of the average Joe's hand today: The seemingly infinite number of "Cash for Gold" shops sprinkled in nearly every town and city.

    This gold is likely gone out of these people's hands forever, as the majority of these people will probably never turn around and re-purchase gold in any form.

    I would love to see a statistic on how many millions of oz of gold has been turned in to Cash for Gold shops over the past 10 years.

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    ^Indeed. Unfortunately several generations have passed since that time and during the long period before the Internet, the vast majority did not realize the ramifications of those decisions in 1933. Most don't even know that gold & silver were used as currency and during this 100+ years when this took place, governmental power was very limited, there was very little inflation, and the USA experience it's greatest economic expansion. Add to this ignorance of the past, the Orwellian obfuscations (debt is good, gold is bad, etc) about money, and that is why you see people lining up to sell gold instead of holding onto it. If people really knew........

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    QWAK,No one apreciates any thing they GOT till it's GONE!

    When the FIAT bubble pops the LAMENTING and GNASHING of teeth will start and the the cry to HANG the "GOLD for CASH" buyers will be a BLOOD CURDELING SCREAM of ANGUISH!

    IGNORENCE os not BLISS it is just being OBLIVIOUS and STUPID!

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