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    Oh Camil, tell me how do you feel?
    You fought for your country
    for God and for war,
    now your heart tells you that can't be real.
    So you tell me your story from beginning to end
    all the blood and the guts and the gore
    will you tell all the people
    'bout the people you killed,
    not for God, but for country and war?
    Oh! Camil, tell me what did you mother say,
    when you left those people out in the fields,
    rotting along with the hay?
    Did you show her your medals?
    Did you show her your guns?
    Did you show her the ears that you wore?
    Did you show her a picture of the people you killed
    not for God, but for country and war?
    Oh! Camil, tell me why are you in this place?
    When you stood up for justice your country replied
    by throwing it back in your face.
    When you tell me your story
    are you making amends for all of the hatred you saw?
    Will you tell all the people about the people that cry out for God
    not for country or war?
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    Be the change you want to see in the world. Gandhi

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    "...a Republic, if you can keep it!" Ben Franklin

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    "Money is the future idea of value." Armstrong

    "Pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance." Sun Tzu
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    It is so poignant to see one who finally understands that what he did under the directions and criminal disinformation of others, and realize, and admit his crimes.

    What can you do but forgive, and thank him for his insight, and maturation, and sharing...

    If only all were like this young man...

    "It is easier to disintegrate an atom than a prejudice."
    -Albert Einstein



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    Quote Originally Posted by arminius View Post
    It is so poignant to see one who finally understands that what he did under the directions and criminal disinformation of others, and realize, and admit his crimes.

    What can you do but forgive, and thank him for his insight, and maturation, and sharing...

    If only all were like this young man...
    Your respose sounds like one of the guards in the NK thread, Last time I looked being duped wasnt a crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arminius View Post
    It is so poignant to see one who finally understands that what he did under the directions and criminal disinformation of others, and realize, and admit his crimes.

    What can you do but forgive, and thank him for his insight, and maturation, and sharing...

    If only all were like this young man...
    there is nothing to forgive

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    Your respose sounds like one of the guards in the NK thread, Last time I looked being duped wasnt a crime.
    +1 here



    Smedley Butler

    Smedley Darlington Butler[1] (July 30, 1881 – June 21, 1940) was a Major General in the U.S. Marine Corps, an outspoken critic of U.S. military adventurism, and at the time of his death the most decorated Marine in U.S. history.



    "I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested."



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler

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    I stand corrected...

    When I wrote that I couldn't think of another word to call it, but you are both absolutely correct. Thank you both for clearing that up...

    "It is easier to disintegrate an atom than a prejudice."
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    Quote Originally Posted by arminius View Post
    I stand corrected...

    When I wrote that I couldn't think of another word to call it, but you are both absolutely correct. Thank you both for clearing that up...
    arminius - I didn't mean to make it sound like an attack. I was just passing on what I had read some time ago. As a young man, Butler joined the military to thwart global evil, and spread peace and democracy around the world. It was only towards the end of his career that he realized what he had truly done.


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    I did not take it as such, Joseph.

    I read General Butler's book years ago and because of it I understand what a position our soldiers are in. Same thing with police. Sure there are a few psycopaths, but most are just doing what they believe is their job, despite being misled by the true psychopaths, the parasites comprised of the black robed ones, and the politicians...

    "It is easier to disintegrate an atom than a prejudice."
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