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    http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...stitutionality

    U.S. Supreme Court justices voiced skepticism about President Barack Obama’s health-care law, hinting they might strike down his biggest domestic achievement just months before the election.

    On the second of three days in the historic case, justices’ questions over the law’s requirement that Americans buy insurance or pay a penalty indicated they might split 5-to-4, with five Republican appointees banding together to topple the law.

    Justice Anthony Kennedy said the requirement to obtain coverage is telling individuals they “must act.” Kennedy, who most often occupies the court’s ideological middle ground, said, “That changes the relationship of the government to the individual in a fundamental way.”

    Justice Samuel Alito called the penalties a “huge subsidy” from young, healthy people who don’t want insurance to those who need a lot of health care.
    http://video.msnbc.msn.com/now-with-...9228/#46869228

    NBC’s Pete Williams, who has been listening in as the Supreme Court hears arguments about President Obama’s health care reform law, says he thinks it’s “very doubtful” the high court is going to find the law constitutional.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/peopl...t-today-2012-3

    According to CNN's legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin, the arguments were "a train wreck for the Obama administration."
    "This law looks like it's going to be struck down. I'm telling you, all of the predictions including mine that the justices would not have a problem with this law were wrong," Toobin just said on CNN.


    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/peopl...#ixzz1qL6PNZCK

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    How you gonna keep them down on the farm...after they've seen Paris?

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    Default Re: Bad day for Obamacare individual mandate?

    When do they expect the decision?

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    Man... you say one wrong thing to one russian, and everyone turns on you.
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    rule of law has yet to slow Obama down ..........why would a few Justices worry him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ppius13 View Post
    When do they expect the decision?


    They said June initially at latest.

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    It's good that this might get shot down but isn't it ridiculous that this is the big debate when the government has claimed the right to assassinate, detain, and spy on American citizens with zero due process, in clear violation of several amendments in the Bill of Rights? When is the SCOTUS going to address that? I'm not holding my breath...

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    I see this as payback by SCOTUS to POTUS for calling them out in the SOTUA.

    Can you say "bitch"?
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    This is hard to listen to. It's tough to talk when you know what yer sayin it's absolute bulls**t.

    It's better to burn out than fade away...........

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    What a joyous day it would be if Obamacare was shot down. Maybe it would wipe that arrogant smirk off his face.

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    I think it's going to come down to the four left leaning judges for it, the four right leaning judges against it and Kennedy is going to be the tie breaker, by ever so slighty leaning over and eventually falling to his right.

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    Suppose for a minute that it does get passed, the Supreme court upholds it. How do you imagine the markets are going to react?

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    A Supreme Court Justice is supposed to be about interpretation of law and not to be influenced by politics and/or political affiliations. Enuff said. Now, let's just let this this play out and see if any "undue influences" sway a member or two.

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    So, we're mandated that we MUST carry this form of health insurance. What's next? This adminstratin is big on the Chevy Volt, giving $7500 tax credits when one makes a purchase. I can see the Volt being one of, if not THE next target. As Government Motors attempts to climb back to some semblence of former glory, it can use all the pats on the back from to Govt that it can get. Slipping a couple bills into the coat pocket as it looks very much to the likes of ordinary folks that it's nothig more than just a simple pat on the back.

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    I agree with you, one of them could walk in front of a 137gr. JHP and they would have to wait to pass their opinion until dickhead appoints a replacement like Eric Holder or another qualified individual of sorts.

    I pray every night for the health of the 4 right and 1 centrist.

    It's not going to be pretty if they uphold this farce of a law.


    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    A Supreme Court Justice is supposed to be about interpretation of law and not to be influenced by politics and/or political affiliations. Enuff said. Now, let's just let this this play out and see if any "undue influences" sway a member or two.

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    If this is shot down (as it clearly should be) what does it do for the eventual Republican nominee? Can Mitt or Rick make this useful fodder for the upcoming election season commercial programming circuit? To be honest, I personally dont see it doing Mitt much good since he actually drew up and laid out the blue print for the whole d*mn thing in his home state.

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