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    Default Jim Marshall, founder of Marshall Amplification, dies

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    Jim Marshall, the inventor who changed the sound of rock music, has died at age 88, according to a statement issued by the company that bears his name.

    A drummer by trade, in the early ‘60s Marshall invented what became known as the Marshall JTM 45 guitar amplifier, seen by many guitarists as an improvement over the then-state-the-art Fender Bassman. In subsequent years, Marshall, who had been selling musical equipment out of a small shop in London, increased the effectiveness of the amps, which continue to be fitted with his name in white script against a black background.

    Marshall amplifiers caught on with rock guitarists to the point that they seemed ubiquitous: A so-called “wall of Marshalls” or “Marshall stacks” stood behind almost every rock guitarist of note in the ‘60s and ‘70s including Eric Clapton, Jimi Hendrix, Tommy Iommi, Jimmy Page and Pete Townshend as well as next-generation guitarists Kurt Cobain, Yngwie Malmsteen, Slash, Eddie Van Halen and Angus Young, among many others. Some bands used a tower of empty Marshall amp cabinets as a prop to suggest power and success.

    The “Marshall crunch,” as the company’s predominant amp sound is known among players, marries volume with a gruffness in the low tones without sacrificing piercing tones on top. Because of the importance of the electric guitar in rock in the ‘60s and beyond, that sound defined many of the genre’s most popular and influential bands.

    Though Jim Marshall was dubbed the “Father of Loud,” guitarists David Gilmour, Mark Knopfler and Andy Summers, among others, used his amps to achieve a clean sound that rang in the upper register at less than maximum volume.

    Jim Marshall was born in 1923 in Southall, a suburb of west London. As a child, he suffered from a bone defect and for much of his youth wore plaster casts that ran the length of his legs and torso. After World War II, he took up the drums and began tutoring young percussionists, including Mitch Mitchell, who became the drummer in the Jimi Hendrix Experience. Customers of his music shop, which emphasized drum kits and percussion paraphernalia, suggested he stock guitars and amplifiers as well, which led to his interest in creating the initial product in what today is a line known worldwide.

    In the early ‘90s, Marshall told his biographer Michael Doyle, “I would say that all we will endeavor to do is to try and improve on what we have done in the past, and I don’t mean purely on the money angle. You can’t take it with you, you can only live in one house and drive one car at a time. It’s the name that means something to me – because it is my name.”

    A statement on the company website read, “In addition to the creation of the amps chosen by countless guitar heroes and game-changing bands, Jim was also an incredibly humble and generous man who, over the past several decades, has quietly donated many millions of pounds to worthy causes.

    “While the entire Marshall Amplification family mourns Jim’s passing and will miss him tremendously, we all feel richer for having known him and are happy in the knowledge that he is now in a much better place which has just got a whole lot louder!”

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    He shaped the sound of rock ‘n’ roll: Jim Marshall, founder of Marshall Amplification, dies

    Guitar players are precious about their sound. And as the music industry has become increasingly digitized around them—from million-dollar recording equipment to such questionable innovations as Auto-Tune—hardcore guitarists, however, still adhere to curiously old-fashioned, analog systems. No computer, it seems, is capable of replicating the raw punch of a guitar and its amplifier.

    This is in large part due to the ingenuity of Jim Marshall, a former drummer from London who, in the early 1960s, created the boxy, Marshall JTM 45 amplifier, which has risen high on the stage behind head-banging rock bands in “stacks” ever since—and deeply altered the sound of popular music. He died yesterday at age 88 after suffering from cancer and multiple strokes.

    “The news of Jim Marshall passing is deeply saddening,” tweeted Slash, the guitarist from Guns N’ Roses. “R & R will never be the same w/out him. But, his amps will live on FOREVER!”

    When not plugged in, an electric guitar is a lifeless organism. It’s the additional stuff—the “kits” comprised of pedals, effects, and most importantly, amplifiers—that work together to create unique sounds such as distortion. (To this day, bands place microphones in front of amplifiers on the stage so larger audiences can hear.) The Marshall—a booming box with a distinct, full-bodied sound—helped usher in decades of hard rock, with such feverish devotees as Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin, Angus Young of AC/DC, and Kurt Cobain of Nirvana.

    In a 2003 interview with Premier Guitar magazine, Marshall attributed the success of his company to his employees, distributors, and dealers. But “most of the people in the worldwide Marshall family are musicians,” he said. “And I’ve always said that musicians should rule the world! After all, music is the most common language. … We probably wouldn’t have wars either—just battles of the bands.”

    Marshall’s products earned him the nickname, “The Father of Loud.” Over the years, the U.K.-based Marshall Amplification sold thousands of amps and, as a result, Marshall was consistently listed in The Sunday Times’ 1,000 richest people in Britain.

    His influence is sure to reverberate around arenas for years to come. As Nikki Sixx of the band Mötley Crüe said on Twitter, Marshall is “responsible for some of the greatest audio moments in music’s history—and 50% responsible of all our hearing loss.”

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    RIP Jim, you started it all..
    They should bury him in one of these...

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    One last boogie-woogie for old Jim Marshall



    And I will play my vintage sanuiis at half-mast all day, til the Johnny Cash concert later tonight.

    Thank you Jim for adding so much to life itself.

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    RIP Jim, you started it all..
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    I would like to do the sound system at his funeral.

    I think I would go with the '58 Dearmond/gold foil pickup and a hollow body.

    Not a dry eye in the house when u play that sweeeeeeeet deArmond gold foil through a big marshall sound box.

    These old skool pickups ain't bad either, choices/choices:



    Where are all our gimmer musicians today? sad bunch of iPod pirates we may be.

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    Got my JVM on standby, warming up. Gonna let those EL34s sing a little bit for Mr. Marshall.

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    I met Jim at the NAMM show in Chicago in 87' He signed this poster board for me. Also has sigs from Van Halen, Eric Johnson, The Nuge and others. Too bad the other sigs are copies. His is real.

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    standing next to Marshall stacks at concerts is why I now say......... "what did you say"

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    standing next to Marshall stacks at concerts is why I now say......... "what did you say"
    hahahaha, u should have saved some nerve endings for ur old age like momma warned you.

    I am constantly amazed Charlie Watts can hear at all.

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    RIP, Jim Marshall...
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    Can u imagine how good this kid will be by the time he turns 5?



    ... and I'm too lazy to look up the gim music vid thread.

    Lucky to find this thread at this hour.

    and why are my ears still ringing after i turn my amps off for the night?

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    Quote Originally Posted by budfox View Post
    I met Jim at the NAMM show in Chicago in 87' He signed this poster board for me. Also has sigs from Van Halen, Eric Johnson, The Nuge and others. Too bad the other sigs are copies. His is real.

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    dang budfox thats grovie ! bad azz piece of history. cheers.
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    In 1978 you had 3 choices for concert grade amps. Marshall's, Fender twin reverbs or Hiwatts.

    Hiwatts blow everything Marshall ever did in the weeds. Pete Townshend did with 2 hiwatts what Eddie VanHalen couldn't with a wall of Marshalls. Pete is deaf, Keef can still hear. Regardless of "11" vs "140", getting the production from a small shop in england was out of the question. Pretty hard to get market share when you only make 3 amps a year and 2 of them were going to Townsend.

    Fender Twin Super Reverb was quite possibly the best studio amp ever. Joe Perry. Enough said. The bad. Fenders shat themselves and refused to work whenever a roadie would enter the room. Quite possibly the most boring concert I ever went to was Aerosmith in 1979. Of the 2 hour set, they played 20 minutes. The rest was spent listening to piped in canned music over the house PA while much swearing was heard from the road staff.

    Marshalls had the look, sound, production and reliability. The DC-3 of Concert Amps.

    You could wait forever for a Hiwatt, play for a few minutes with a Fender or tour for years with a Marshall and spread tinnitus across our great land.

    I'm done, It's on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by budfox View Post
    I met Jim at the NAMM show in Chicago in 87' He signed this poster board for me. Also has sigs from Van Halen, Eric Johnson, The Nuge and others. Too bad the other sigs are copies. His is real.
    Hey Budfox

    Mike Oldfield came to South Africa, must have been 94-ish to demo new Marshall kit. The demo was organized by T.O.M.S. (That Other Music Shop) when I still knew the director (JP) and I got two invites.

    Me and my bud (no pun and till this day) stopped counting at 17 double whiskeys.

    I can still remember shaking Mr Marshall's hand and getting a much smaller poster than yours cigged.

    Still have the poster rolled up. Never got to framing it. Suppose its time now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DodgebyDave View Post
    In 1978 you had 3 choices for concert grade amps. Marshall's, Fender twin reverbs or Hiwatts.

    Hiwatts blow everything Marshall ever did in the weeds.
    I agree. I notice the BBC had the best sounding equipment way back in the 1960s when I pull up old audio tracks from that era. Cudoes to brit musical sensibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keef View Post
    These old skool pickups ain't bad either, choices/choices:



    Where are all our gimmer musicians today? sad bunch of iPod pirates we may be.
    You got the hollowbody part right, Keef. But I like mine with old school P90s like this blonde Guild X500T in the background. And, yeah, I built that amp. 35 watts of tube nirvana.
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    Quit teasing us CK. I would love to hear that equipment on a utube vid if u ever get in the mood.

    All the old pros used those hollow bodies, from Chuck Berry on out.

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    The next time you watch "The Blues Brothers", pay attention to the "Minnie the Moocher" scene with Cab Calloway. Matt "Guitar" Murphy is strumming an X-500T just like mine. Very difficult (almost impossible) guitar to find these days. At any price.
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    A hiwatt on 1



    3 heads and six 4x12s on about 8

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    Hey Dave. Since you brought up the Who. At what point did Townsend stop recording with his 1964 Blonde Bassman? I thought he used one in the late sixties. Also useful to keep in mind is that the music that you hear sometimes is not coming from the amps that you see. Billy Gibbons signed a contract with Orange amplifiers that says that Orange will pay him a princely sum to have their stacks on stage behind him. I know for a fact that he is not playing through them. Also, back in the early eighties, Neil Young was frequently seen with an obscene stack of large amps behind him on stage to give the illusion that all that sound was coming from them. They were empty. It is a well known secret that he usually has an old Fender Deluxe (14 to 18 watts) in a box under the stage with a microphone in front of it feeding the PA system. Neil owns the worlds largest collection of Fender Deluxe amps. One in particular is his favorite. And yes, a Fender Deluxe (particularly an early version of the circuit like a 5C3) will give you "Hey, Hey, My, My" distortion anywhere north of 9 with no pedals whatsoever. Most people do not know that on the original recording of "Layla", that all of us know and love, Eric Clapton laid down those tones in a studio with a 5 watt Fender Champ (5F1). Back in the day, there wasn't a recording studio around that didn't have a Fender Champ standing by in case a guitarist showed up without an amp or a technical difficulty arose. Those stacks you see from the '70's and '80's are mostly window dressing. Sorry to burst any bubbles.
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    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MAH CHERISHED DELUSIONS OF HEROS IN CODPIECES!!!!!!!

    The 1978 KISS tour went through Indy and I happened to be lucky enough to win a chance to work for those bastards for a night.

    It was awesome and I got a huge dose of reality. Ace Frehley can't play for cat spleen and there was a guy playing off stage. He was just too wasted. Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper Fame rarely played live. Too stoned.

    Geddy Lee got fed up with the whole scene and started running his shizz through the house PA (after it goes through his magic stack, of course). Hence his wall of "Coin Op Laundry Machines". Alex uses 3 Custom made amps, Neil runs through the board to the house system. There stuff always sounds as pure as the stuff they peddle. You know you are getting "what is" Live.

    I can't count how many concerts I have attended that the Band was large chunks when teh album was sterile.

    VIVA LA PROTOOLS!

    Jim Marshall gave music an amp you could tour with and had the perfect level of distortion at concert volume for heavy metal in the pre super electronics days. Kicked everyone buttocks!

    I always figured so what about the glitz. Entertainment has no more to do with reality than the law does with right and wrong.

    Oh yeah, when we packed up Gene Simmons 25 amplifiers only 2 were real. The knowledge didn't change my perception of reality, only gave me a bigger vision of it.
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    The 'Rush in Rio' DVD is friggin awesome. The production is incredible.

    The movie Rush: Beyond the Lighted Stage sure brought back some memories for me.

    The guys in UFO and Kiss make fun of them during the cape period. It was Gene that took them out on the US tour.

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    The 'Rush in Rio' DVD is friggin awesome. The production is incredible.

    The movie Rush: Beyond the Lighted Stage sure brought back some memories for me.

    The guys in UFO and Kiss make fun of them during the cape period. It was Gene that took them out on the US tour.

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    The next time you watch "The Blues Brothers", pay attention to the "Minnie the Moocher" scene with Cab Calloway. Matt "Guitar" Murphy is strumming an X-500T just like mine. Very difficult (almost impossible) guitar to find these days. At any price.
    This guy sounds VERY CLOSE to what my five dollar salvation army 1959 Harmony with a gold foil deArmond pickup sounded like. This guitar sounds too acoustic for my taste, but it's so close.


    Great if you can afford nice equipment, but, there are ways to have 'the best' on a low budget. I don't know what this vid sounds like on tinny speakers, but through three amps and 12 drivers, it sounds live in my living room.

    One driver is a 15" cervin vega tuned for bass guitar licks, that's what brings my living room to concert level listening. I built the CV for a hundred bucks using a heavy duty plastic food storage drum for a cabinet, cuz looks dont matter when I listen. Filled it with fiber glass and dried bean bags for ballast, hahahahha. SOUNDS AWESOME.

    I am not much for that milli vanilli empty amps on stage thingie. I should take a picture of the 15" driver, but you would laugh at it, I used heavy duty left over christmas paper to cover the blue cabinet. When I turn it on, I say to myself, "merry christmas, neighbors." It sits upright like a garbage can.

    You would laugh at it til you heard it, then it is like wtf?????? I can recreate music that sounds better than live through positive creative distortion and constructive interferance of bass waves.

    It's a lot of fun to invent your own stuff. And the reward? priceless.

    I asked my 91 year old retired neighbor if my music bothered him? He said, "Was that you, I thought the skating rink down the road reopened." hahahaha.. Neighbors whom are hard of hearing, at least one of my prayers in this life was answered.
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    If my old ears do not very much deceive me, that guitar has nylon strings on it. It should sound very acoustic, no matter what pickups he's using.
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    I don't even think you need to be an old stoner to enjoy this:



    Play this through tubes and you will experience string heaven.

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    Also useful to keep in mind is that the music that you hear sometimes is not coming from the amps that you see. Billy Gibbons signed a contract with Orange amplifiers that says that Orange will pay him a princely sum to have their stacks on stage behind him. I know for a fact that he is not playing through them. Also, back in the early eighties, Neil Young was frequently seen with an obscene stack of large amps behind him on stage to give the illusion that all that sound was coming from them. They were empty. It is a well known secret that he usually has an old Fender Deluxe (14 to 18 watts) in a box under the stage with a microphone in front of it feeding the PA system.
    LOL, Fiat amplification...

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    I don't even think you need to be an old stoner to enjoy this:



    Play this through tubes and you will experience string heaven.
    Dats da bong........right there.
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    Let's talk preamp tubes where it all begins......

    I have a Vox Tonelab, stuffed a Sovtek 12AX7AW in, improved things quite a bit. I haven't messed with my Blackstar amp yet.

    What's your best ECC83/12AX7 tube?

    Still lookin for Eddie's brown sound..
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    Your talking way over my head, Bud. The only tubes I use are PRE AMP. Never had the luxury yet of discriminating the difference between tubes. I use germanium transistors for output POWER. My next amp may include those big russian tubes that light up like chernobal. Russians do everything azz backwards, even problem solving, but they get the job done.

    But I do know what you mean about phase shifting on the drivers. I had ONE driver with reverse polarity and it fugged up the whole system. Constructive/Distructive interference caused peaks and valleys in the sound waves that irritate the ear. Finger nails on chalk board type interferance. You might call it HARSH like cheap smoke.

    I would NEVER use active crossovers again outside of a nice russian military surplus capacitor to protect a tweeter.

    AC phase shifting is no joke, it makes or breaks the TOTAL SOUND in my book.


    Whats the magic of vacuum tubes? Not sure, but they are addictive, so watch out.

    Like puzzie and drugs. A guy cant win.

    Edit: Here is why germanium is no longer commonly used in semiconductors:

    "As a result, while silicon could be bought in 1998 for less than $10 per kg,[20] the price of 1 kg of germanium was then almost $800.[20]" ~ wiki.

    We listen to crap music so some CEO can enjoy his yaht with excess profits earned off of silicon. Germanium is very close to vacuum tubes for warmth and soothing effect on the ear drums.

    But even germanium is slightly 'muddy' sounding in the low frequency bass regions compaired to pure vacuum tubes. It's the price vs quality switch off. You still can find vintage Marantz/Sansui and other home audio equipment with germanium if tubes are too costly

    Perfection in this life is NOT possible. We have to settle for dang near, bro.
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    Hey Keef,

    Talkin guitar heads here. Original designs had (3) ECC83's in the preamp stage and EL34's in the output.

    I played around with Groove tubes in the 80's but most guys don't know about Eddie using a variac on his heads to get his sound. Most thought he was jackin up the 110V to 120 but in fact he was lowering the voltage so he could overdrive the output tubes at a lower volume to get his sound. The bias setting on the the tube plate is very important too.
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    Russian tubes might even deliver on that unique RUSSIAN SOUND.

    It's not for everyone, but I do listen to it on occasion.






    Make sure u check this one out if you pass on the others:



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    Hey Keef,

    Talkin guitar heads here. Original designs had (3) ECC83's in the preamp stage and EL34's in the output.

    I played around with Groove tubes in the 80's but most guys don't know about Eddie using a variac on his heads to get his sound. Most thought he was jackin up the 110V to 120 but in fact he was lowering the voltage so he could overdrive the output tubes at a lower volume to get his sound. The bias setting on the the tube plate is very important too.
    Wow, bud. You are way over my head again. I buy all new equipment with tubes so hopefully I don't have to use a voltmeter to adjust a bias. It sounds like he was messing with creative distortion. Kind of like when keith richards woke up and recorded the opening riff of Satisfaction on a cheap cassette player.

    Distortion was the start of rock n roll in my book. Everything, including the Beatles, was just jazz skiffle before that break away stones hit.

    A variac? That's what I was looking for to run my cooling fans, they are just too loud without adjustment.

    You really should re open ur shop. This cheap walmart import thing is about done and our country needs hands-on electronic engineers again. Desperately.





    I am actually a retired civil servant who took a few electronic classes back in the day.

    But once a stoner? Always an audiophile.

    Well, my Floyd concert is downloaded for the evening. See ya on the next orbit, bro.
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    We need a "GIM All-Star Band and Jesuit Choir"

    I'll play tambourine. You can play those hammered and no one knows.

    Imagine if Geddy and the boys had packed it in and never made 2112. The fat cat execs have to go.
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    You got the hollowbody part right, Keef. But I like mine with old school P90s like this blonde Guild X500T in the background. And, yeah, I built that amp. 35 watts of tube nirvana.
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    We need a "GIM All-Star Band .
    Sure, I can do vocals..



    A little slow tonight hedge? (nice get-tar, btw) A little history lesson I could have put in the dog houz if she was open on a wednesday morning:



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    You got a plan for that amp?

    Yes. I can dig it up and scan it if you like.

    Looks like variacs can be had relatively cheaply, fellas. http://amptone.com/tenmavariac.htm

    Lots of amp builders like me build a psuedo-variac using a lightbulb to regulate load.
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    A little slow tonight hedge? (nice get-tar, btw)
    Very nice guitar. But try finding one on fleabay. They just aren't out there. I've been looking for a second one (I'm greedy) and will go as high as $3,500. I really lucked into the one I own. The guy didn't want to sell it but wanted the money because he a line on a '52 Gibson L5. It's a gem.
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    Can you make a Byrdland squeal like they are supposed to?

    Alas, I am a hack noise maker and cannot.

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    Hey Keef,

    Talkin guitar heads here. Original designs had (3) ECC83's in the preamp stage and EL34's in the output.

    I played around with Groove tubes in the 80's but most guys don't know about Eddie using a variac on his heads to get his sound. Most thought he was jackin up the 110V to 120 but in fact he was lowering the voltage so he could overdrive the output tubes at a lower volume to get his sound. The bias setting on the the tube plate is very important too.
    Not lookin' to step on your groove but thought I would chime in here...

    For modern EL34 tubes try the Mullard tubes. It's NOT the same company or same tube from back in the day but they do a really decent job.

    If you're a 6L6 fan I would highly recommend the Sovtek 6L6GCWXT. It's important to get the WXT model for best overall performance.

    I've chased the 12ax7s for a long while and find that the NOS Jan/Phillips are real nice but spendy. For everyday workingman tubes the JJ tubes are quite useful and inexpensive. Do pay special attention to your phase inverter tube. It's really important to have a well-balanced tube in that slot. Though a lot of folks may not care much for the Groove Tubes brand since Fender bought them out I must say that their 12ax7/12at7 SAG (special applications group) is a really fine tube and can do wonders in the phase inverter position.

    I play through vintage amps. Currently using a '78 Fender Twin and a Fender The Twin (commonly called the "Evil Twin"). It's the red knob model. It was first tube amp Fender came out with after they parted company with CBS. It's despised by many but it's LOUD like a Fender. It's clean like a Fender. It shimmers like a Fender so I don't understand the rejection by the corksniffers. It's far more versatile than any Fenders before it. I really like it and I guess that's what's important.

    Prior to my move to Fenders I played through Marshalls. Still love Marshalls but I don't much care for any of their amps after the JCM800 series. Too much solid state gak in them which, for me, ruined the sound. Might add a good Marshall clone amp to the arsenal and it will probably be based on the Marshall 1987 circuit which was like the last of the plexi-type circuits and before the JCM800 2203/2204 circuit.

    I use the Vox Tonelab LE for effects. Decent unit and will drive my Fenders into near Marshall tonal territory.

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    If you're a 6L6 fan I would highly recommend the Sovtek 6L6GCWXT. It's important to get the WXT model for best overall performance.
    That's a nice tube. The full name of the Sovtek 5881 is something like 5881/6L6GCWXT. It's a regulator tube from a Russian aircraft servo system. I believe Tungsol 5881s were used in B52s as well. Bias them on the warm side for best sound. A few years ago I lucked into a whole pile of matched pairs of JAN/Phillips 6L6WGB tubes. (JAN meaning Joint Army Navy) Like a hog, I bought them all and use them in one amp and one amp only. My mint 1964 Blonde Bassman. Built in February 1964 this is a 6G6-B circuit that is probably best known for being used by Pete Townsend and Brian Setzer. It's the only amp I own that I did not build.
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    Here's the definitive book on tube amps. 'The Tube Amp Book' by Aspen Pittman. It's been updated since I got mine in 87'
    Loaded with schematics for Orange, Marshall, Park and Vox.

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    Good book. Here's another that no bookshelf should be without. "A Desktop Reference of Hip Vintage Guitar Amps" by Gerald Weber. It's invaluable if you own a vintage amp that you would like to tweak or tune up. It's also useful for the amp builder. And it has more than 200 pages of schematics for Ampeg, Fender, Gibson, Hiwatt, Magnatone, Marshall, Rickenbacker, Silvertone, and Vox.
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    Ironic that Alton mentions Mullard, Dave Reeves got 800 quid severance pay from them that he started Hylight Electronics Ltd. with.

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    Hey guys, what's your favorite 12AX7?
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    Hey guys, what's your favorite 12AX7?
    Mullard 12AX7 / ECC83 Reissue - This is a nice tube but in my opinion better suited to home audio than guitar amps. The tubes have well balanced triode pairs and a very even flat response. Compared to a Tung Sol it sounds a bit flat, but so does a NOS Mullard. Microphonics is not an issue despite the larger that average plate structure. The transconductance on my sample was the same as two NOS samples I measured. Not really high gain at all, but a real good noise floor and a nice smooth tone that doesn't encourage ear fatigue the way some preamps can be. The Tung-Sol 12AX7 is my favorite preamp for guitars because it accentuates highs and lows. The Mullard adds virtually no tone coloring and is smoother sounding to my ear than a JJ ECC83S. For hi-fi gear the Mullard will likely be a winner but there are better choices for guitar amps for less money.
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    A quick look at my test bench shows equal numbers of JJ's and Tung Sols. I'm not nearly a picky about my preamp tubes as I am about my power tubes. I don't build esoteric stereo amps, I build guitar amps.
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    I had a Peavey bass amp once. Then my cousin's basement flooded while he was on vacation. The wost part of that was the freezer (the seal was no good, it was very obvious). We didn't go down there for months, by then there wasn't much point I figured (also, his insurance paid me 500/I paid 400 for the head and the cab) and we chucked it.

    It was a heavy loud turd anyway. I never liked Budweiser, either.

    Anybody else kill an amp?


    (Edit: I knew of blackstar, budfox, but other than that *iconic* look I never really paid much attention until I did some more research. You have a hiwatt, maybe better than an original)
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    Thanks Dave,

    I read the reviews on all the sites and the Tung-sol came up tops in most reviews. JJ was close.

    I got two commin, one for my Blackstar, and one for the Tonelab.
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