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    Default 50 Top Astronauts, Scientists Sign Letter Slamming NASA For Promoting Man-Made Climat

    50 Top Astronauts, Scientists Sign Letter Slamming NASA For Promoting Man-Made Climate Change Dogma

    P Gosselin
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    Wednesday, April 11, 2012

    Update:
    Now at Fox News!
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    Eventually the sham is going to give, and the latest letter signed by 50 NASA experts, with more than 1000 years of combined professional experience, is a sure sign the gig’s about over.
    …..unproven remarks…..not substantiated…..hundreds of well-known climate scientists…..tens of thousands of other scientists publicly declaring their disbelief…..science is NOT settled…..unbecoming of NASA’s history…..advocacy of an extreme position…..damage to the exemplary reputation of NASA…..even the reputation of science itself…”
    Letters to the top don’t get any more blunt than that.
    And how many tens of billions have these crackpots at GISS cost the taxpayers?

    Here’s the letter:
    March 28, 2012
    The Honorable Charles Bolden, Jr.
    NASA Administrator
    NASA Headquarters
    Washington, D.C. 20546-0001

    Dear Charlie,

    We, the undersigned, respectfully request that NASA and the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) refrain from including unproven remarks in public releases and websites. We believe the claims by NASA and GISS, that man-made carbon dioxide is having a catastrophic impact on global climate change are not substantiated, especially when considering thousands of years of empirical data. With hundreds of well-known climate scientists and tens of thousands of other scientists publicly declaring their disbelief in the catastrophic forecasts, coming particularly from the GISS leadership, it is clear that the science is NOT settled.

    The unbridled advocacy of CO2 being the major cause of climate change is unbecoming of NASA’s history of making an objective assessment of all available scientific data prior to making decisions or public statements.

    As former NASA employees, we feel that NASA’s advocacy of an extreme position, prior to a thorough study of the possible overwhelming impact of natural climate drivers is inappropriate. We request that NASA refrain from including unproven and unsupported remarks in its future releases and websites on this subject. At risk is damage to the exemplary reputation of NASA, NASA’s current or former scientists and employees, and even the reputation of science itself.
    For additional information regarding the science behind our concern, we recommend that you contact Harrison Schmitt or Walter Cunningham, or others they can recommend to you.
    Thank you for considering this request.

    Sincerely,
    (Attached signatures)
    CC: Mr. John Grunsfeld, Associate Administrator for Science
    CC: Ass Mr. Chris Scolese, Director, Goddard Space Flight Center
    Ref: Letter to NASA Administrator Charles Bolden, dated 3-26-12, regarding a request for NASA to refrain from making unsubstantiated claims that human produced CO2 is having a catastrophic impact on climate change.
    1. /s/ Jack Barneburg, Jack – JSC, Space Shuttle Structures, Engineering Directorate, 34 years
    2. /s/ Larry Bell – JSC, Mgr. Crew Systems Div., Engineering Directorate, 32 years
    3. /s/ Dr. Donald Bogard – JSC, Principal Investigator, Science Directorate, 41 years
    4. /s/ Jerry C. Bostick – JSC, Principal Investigator, Science Directorate, 23 years
    5. /s/ Dr. Phillip K. Chapman – JSC, Scientist – astronaut, 5 years
    6. /s/ Michael F. Collins, JSC, Chief, Flight Design and Dynamics Division, MOD, 41 years
    7. /s/ Dr. Kenneth Cox – JSC, Chief Flight Dynamics Div., Engr. Directorate, 40 years
    8. /s/ Walter Cunningham – JSC, Astronaut, Apollo 7, 8 years
    9. /s/ Dr. Donald M. Curry – JSC, Mgr. Shuttle Leading Edge, Thermal Protection Sys., Engr. Dir., 44 years
    10. /s/ Leroy Day – Hdq. Deputy Director, Space Shuttle Program, 19 years
    11. /s/ Dr. Henry P. Decell, Jr. – JSC, Chief, Theory & Analysis Office, 5 years
    12. /s/Charles F. Deiterich – JSC, Mgr., Flight Operations Integration, MOD, 30 years
    13. /s/ Dr. Harold Doiron – JSC, Chairman, Shuttle Pogo Prevention Panel, 16 years
    14. /s/ Charles Duke – JSC, Astronaut, Apollo 16, 10 years
    15. /s/ Anita Gale
    16. /s/ Grace Germany – JSC, Program Analyst, 35 years
    17. /s/ Ed Gibson – JSC, Astronaut Skylab 4, 14 years
    18. /s/ Richard Gordon – JSC, Astronaut, Gemini Xi, Apollo 12, 9 years
    19. /s/ Gerald C. Griffin – JSC, Apollo Flight Director, and Director of Johnson Space Center, 22 years
    20. /s/ Thomas M. Grubbs – JSC, Chief, Aircraft Maintenance and Engineering Branch, 31 years
    21. /s/ Thomas J. Harmon
    22. /s/ David W. Heath – JSC, Reentry Specialist, MOD, 30 years
    23. /s/ Miguel A. Hernandez, Jr. – JSC, Flight crew training and operations, 3 years
    24. /s/ James R. Roundtree – JSC Branch Chief, 26 years
    25. /s/ Enoch Jones – JSC, Mgr. SE&I, Shuttle Program Office, 26 years
    26. /s/ Dr. Joseph Kerwin – JSC, Astronaut, Skylab 2, Director of Space and Life Sciences, 22 years
    27. /s/ Jack Knight – JSC, Chief, Advanced Operations and Development Division, MOD, 40 years
    28. /s/ Dr. Christopher C. Kraft – JSC, Apollo Flight Director and Director of Johnson Space Center, 24 years
    29. /s/ Paul C. Kramer – JSC, Ass.t for Planning Aeroscience and Flight Mechanics Div., Egr. Dir., 34 years
    30. /s/ Alex (Skip) Larsen
    31. /s/ Dr. Lubert Leger – JSC, Ass’t. Chief Materials Division, Engr. Directorate, 30 years
    32. /s/ Dr. Humbolt C. Mandell – JSC, Mgr. Shuttle Program Control and Advance Programs, 40 years
    33. /s/ Donald K. McCutchen – JSC, Project Engineer – Space Shuttle and ISS Program Offices, 33 years
    34. /s/ Thomas L. (Tom) Moser – Hdq. Dep. Assoc. Admin. & Director, Space Station Program, 28 years
    35. /s/ Dr. George Mueller – Hdq., Assoc. Adm., Office of Space Flight, 6 years
    36. /s/ Tom Ohesorge
    37. /s/ James Peacock – JSC, Apollo and Shuttle Program Office, 21 years
    38. /s/ Richard McFarland – JSC, Mgr. Motion Simulators, 28 years
    39. /s/ Joseph E. Rogers – JSC, Chief, Structures and Dynamics Branch, Engr. Directorate, 40 years
    40. /s/ Bernard J. Rosenbaum – JSC, Chief Engineer, Propulsion and Power Division, Engr. Dir., 48 years
    41. /s/ Dr. Harrison (Jack) Schmitt – JSC, Astronaut Apollo 17, 10 years
    42. /s/ Gerard C. Shows – JSC, Asst. Manager, Quality Assurance, 30 years
    43. /s/ Kenneth Suit – JSC, Ass’t Mgr., Systems Integration, Space Shuttle, 37 years
    44. /s/ Robert F. Thompson – JSC, Program Manager, Space Shuttle, 44 years
    45. /s/ Frank Van Renesselaer – Hdq., Mgr. Shuttle Solid Rocket Boosters, 15 years
    46. /s/ Dr. James Visentine – JSC Materials Branch, Engineering Directorate, 30 years
    47. /s/ Manfred (Dutch) von Ehrenfried – JSC, Flight Controller; Mercury, Gemini & Apollo, MOD, 10 years
    48. /s/ George Weisskopf – JSC, Avionics Systems Division, Engineering Dir., 40 years
    49. /s/ Al Worden – JSC, Astronaut, Apollo 15, 9 years
    50. /s/ Thomas (Tom) Wysmuller – JSC, Meteorologist, 5 years
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    Default Re: 50 Top Astronauts, Scientists Sign Letter Slamming NASA For Promoting Man-Made Cl

    WHat the heck are these guys doing in their free time. I thought their new mission was to make muslims feel good about their contribution to mathematics?? Get back to work.

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    Default Re: 50 Top Astronauts, Scientists Sign Letter Slamming NASA For Promoting Man-Made Cl

    BS. NASA has a vested interest in continued funding for rocket, satellite, and space shuttle launches. They aren't going to bite the hand that feeds them. Every NASA launch burns 1000's of gallons of fuel that becomes another hole in the ozone and more pollution. Then there is the falling space junk that conveniently gets swept under the rug. If you choose to trust a bunch of retired NASA employees that are protecting their own, fine. The real data is in ice cores from Antarctica that are free of human corruption and alterior motives. The data consistently indicates that the position by these NASA retirees is more a political statement that a scientific one.

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    Default Re: 50 Top Astronauts, Scientists Sign Letter Slamming NASA For Promoting Man-Made Cl

    50 doesn't sound as impressive when you take into account that NASA employs something like 20,000-30,000 people. It isn't even one percent. Being on the generous side, its a quarter of a percent.

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    All hail Climate Change. Its your fault and the only way to fix it is to cull the herd (with happy Chemtrails and GMO's for food). Also, hail to the climate change king, Mr. Al Gore (who couldn't be here tonight because he's counting your money). Seriously, I would investigate more into what some slave from within says than the general pack of lies that flow out of the mouth of NASA or the government...........
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    Dear NASA,

    IF you would like to keep what is left of your budget, you WILL get with the program in regard to man made global warming.

    Sincerely,

    Dumbo
    Al "I invented the net" Gore
    Nancy "I miss my private government paid jet" Peloosey
    Harry "I just signed on to look good" Reid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alric View Post
    50 doesn't sound as impressive when you take into account that NASA employs something like 20,000-30,000 people. It isn't even one percent. Being on the generous side, its a quarter of a percent.
    The signatories are some of the cream of the crop, the elite astronaut corps. And for everyone who signed the letter, there are probably a hundred others at NASA who agree with them, but weren't asked to sign the letter, or were too fearful of peer pressure and job insecurity to sign it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyKnow View Post
    WHat the heck are these guys doing in their free time. I thought their new mission was to make muslims feel good about their contribution to mathematics?? Get back to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phideaux View Post
    And for everyone who signed the letter, there are probably a hundred others at NASA who agree with them, but weren't asked to sign the letter, or were too fearful of peer pressure and job insecurity to sign it.
    Even if that was true, that isn't very many compared to up to 30,000 people working there and fits in with the statistics saying the vast majority of scientists think that climate change is real and man made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alric View Post
    Even if that was true, that isn't very many compared to up to 30,000 people working there and fits in with the statistics saying the vast majority of scientists think that climate change is real and man made.

    Yes, the continuing lie of "statistics" that MSM reports with such accuracy and truth from "trusted government experts".............
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alric View Post
    Even if that was true, that isn't very many compared to up to 30,000 people working there and fits in with the statistics saying the vast majority of scientists think that climate change is real and man made.
    The vast majority of "scientists" are on one form or another of a government payroll. Their objectivity is irreparably conflicted and comprised.
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    The vast majority of "scientists" are on one form or another of a government payroll. Their objectivity is irreparably conflicted and comprised.
    So your scientist who are on the government payroll are reliable, but the people on the government payroll with a different opinion than yours is unreliable? I think you see the issue here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alric View Post
    So your scientist who are on the government payroll are reliable, but the people on the government payroll with a different opinion than yours is unreliable? I think you see the issue here.
    You don't become a "government expert" unless you can prove your loyalty to the cabal. NIST and 911 is a good example. Their science was flawed and proven wrong, yet these were the experts. Do you listen up when the WHO declares a worldwide pandemic or when they won't jump off the fence and tell you cell phones cause brain tumors. They have (or suppose to have) the weight of the world backing them up, yet the only statement they will make on the matter is that "it might cause brain tumors", so keep on using them. Yeah, government experts, where lying sacks of government sh*t go to try and make the public swallow their filth when no one believes them...........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alric View Post
    So your scientist who are on the government payroll are reliable, but the people on the government payroll with a different opinion than yours is unreliable? I think you see the issue here.
    I'm saying that the vast majority of people on a government payroll are unreliable. They are biased in favor of the master who writes their paycheck.
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