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Thread: QWAK,Somthing to ponder HUMmmmmmmmmmmm???

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    Default QWAK,Somthing to ponder HUMmmmmmmmmmmm???

    QWAK,IF I bought SILVER rounds at say $10.00 each and sell them at say $30.00 each the GOV. wants 30% of the $20.00 profit as TAX but IF it were a stock they would only get HALF 15%!

    What IF I alter the SILVER ROUND -- change it in to somthing else does that avoid the 30% tax?

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    Default Re: QWAK,Somthing to ponder HUMmmmmmmmmmmm???

    Quote Originally Posted by GOLD DUCK View Post
    QWAK,IF I bought SILVER rounds at say $10.00 each and sell them at say $30.00 each the GOV. wants 30% of the $20.00 profit as TAX but IF it were a stock they would only get HALF 15%!

    What IF I alter the SILVER ROUND -- change it in to somthing else does that avoid the 30% tax?

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    It depends on what you change the silver round to. For example, hypothetically speaking, if you could change the silver round into digital paper "0's" and "1's" (i.e. stocks), you could avoid the 30% tax but you still would pay 15% tax. However in real life that will, at best, be impossible to directly transform real money (the silver rounds) into paper money (stocks) unless you had a magic wand to alter the physical properties of the silver rounds to make them digital paper "0's" and "1's".
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    Default Re: QWAK,Somthing to ponder HUMmmmmmmmmmmm???

    Hypothetically speaking (as I know nothing about this), if you buy with cash, sell for cash, you don't have to pay any taxes.

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    Default Re: QWAK,Somthing to ponder HUMmmmmmmmmmmm???

    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Art View Post
    It depends on what you change the silver round to. For example, hypothetically speaking, if you could change the silver round into digital paper "0's" and "1's" (i.e. stocks), you could avoid the 30% tax but you still would pay 15% tax. However in real life that will, at best, be impossible to directly transform real money (the silver rounds) into paper money (stocks) unless you had a magic wand to alter the physical properties of the silver rounds to make them digital paper "0's" and "1's".
    QWAK,Silver Art,I was thinking more along the lines of melting and casting the .999 silver in to VAMPIRE KILLING BULLETS!

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    Default Re: QWAK,Somthing to ponder HUMmmmmmmmmmmm???

    You could probably circumvent the higher rate by making it into a piece of art.

    Punch a hole in the plastic sleeve holder and run a string through it and you have a necklace/bracelet.........

    Not that I would ever suggest breaking the law.

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    Default Re: QWAK,Somthing to ponder HUMmmmmmmmmmmm???

    Quote Originally Posted by bemac View Post
    Hypothetically speaking (as I know nothing about this), if you buy with cash, sell for cash, you don't have to pay any taxes.
    QWAK,bemac,I think the IRS would eat you for breakfast over that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOLD DUCK View Post
    QWAK,bemac,I think the IRS would eat you for breakfast over that!

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    Yeah, that's why I'd never do such a thing.

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    Default Re: QWAK,Somthing to ponder HUMmmmmmmmmmmm???

    Quote Originally Posted by GOLD DUCK View Post
    QWAK,IF I bought SILVER rounds at say $10.00 each and sell them at say $30.00 each the GOV. wants 30% of the $20.00 profit as TAX but IF it were a stock they would only get HALF 15%!

    What IF I alter the SILVER ROUND -- change it in to somthing else does that avoid the 30% tax?

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    With respect to tax liabilities, is there a distinction to be made between silver rounds and ASEs and 90% per se ? Hypothetically, if one was to pay cash for ASEs, AGEs, and possibly some 90%, would one have a tax obligation if one sold such coin down the road ? What if, instead, one paid for food, vehicles, gas, etc with such coins ? how could there be a tax issue at all ?

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    Default Re: QWAK,Somthing to ponder HUMmmmmmmmmmmm???

    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph View Post
    With respect to tax liabilities, is there a distinction to be made between silver rounds and ASEs and 90% per se ? Hypothetically, if one was to pay cash for ASEs, AGEs, and possibly some 90%, would one have a tax obligation if one sold such coin down the road ? What if, instead, one paid for food, vehicles, gas, etc with such coins ? how could there be a tax issue at all ?
    QWAK,Joseph,If you sell your bullion for more than you payed the IRS expects to get 30% of any gain yea it SUCKS and is as wrong as the sun shining at night but that is part of there SCAM to keep people from returning to using SILVER and GOLD as MONEY!

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    "ALL is ONE" What we DO to and FOR others we DO "TO and FOR" our selves ultimitly!

    People SELDOM look for TRUTH! What they look for is CONFERMATION that what they have chosen to believe IS TRUTH! This is why people will believe almost ANY THING and also WHY the WORLD is SO MESSED UP!

    IT is never realy OVER -- things just CHANGE!

    You can QUOTE me on ALL! It IS what I believe to be TRUE!

    I AM, the DUCK

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