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    Default Faber: ‘Massive Wealth Destruction’ Coming, Well-to-Do ‘May Lose 50%’

    http://www.moneynews.com/StreetTalk/...O_CODE=E969-1#


    The critical question over the next decade isn’t “where will my returns be highest?” but “where will I lose the least money?”

    That, according to economist and investor Marc Faber, is the scenario facing investors today.

    As the author of the Gloom, Boom, and Doom Report, Marc Faber is a well-known contrarian, earning celebrity status because of his ominous predictions.

    So his pessimism during a recent appearance on CNBC wasn’t surprising for a man whose nickname is “Doctor Doom.” What was surprising was the level of “wealth destruction” he sees in the not-too-distant future.

    Faber stated, “I think somewhere down the line we will have a massive wealth destruction. That usually happens either through very high inflation or through social unrest or through war or credit-market collapse.”



    “I would say that well-to-do people may lose up to 50 percent of their total wealth.”

    Faber points out that this bleak outlook for the United States has been caused by Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and the Federal Reserve’s continuous printing of new money.

    He says that the bailout and money printing will not create any long-lasting wealth or create healthy growth, and that the collapse will come on Bernanke’s watch.

    While Faber’s prognostications are worrisome (especially for those who fall into the “well-to-do” category), they are hardly as alarming as the scenario laid out by another economist.

    Without appearing on CNBC, earning celebrity status, or being known by a scary nickname, Robert Wiedemer did what Marc Faber couldn’t: He accurately predicted the economic collapse that almost sunk the United States.

    In 2006, Wiedemer and a team of economists foresaw the coming collapse of the U.S. housing market, equity markets, private debt, and consumer spending, and published their findings in the book America’s Bubble Economy.

    But Wiedemer’s outlook for the U.S. economy today makes “Doctor Doom” sound like Mr. Rogers.

    Where Faber sees a 50 percent loss of wealth for some, Wiedemer sees much more widespread economic destruction.

    In a recent interview for his newest book Aftershock, Wiedemer says, “The data is clear, 50% unemployment, a 90% stock market drop, and 100% annual inflation . . . starting in 2012.”

    Editor’s Note: See the disturbing interview with Wiedemer.

    When the host questioned such wild claims, Wiedemer unapologetically displayed shocking charts backing up his allegations, and then ended his argument with, “You see, the medicine will become the poison.”

    The interview has become a wake-up call for those unprepared (or unwilling) to acknowledge an ugly truth: The country’s financial “rescue” devised in Washington has failed miserably.

    The blame lies squarely on those whose job it was to avoid the exact situation we find ourselves in, including Bernanke and former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, tasked with preventing financial meltdowns and keeping the nation’s economy strong through monetary and credit policies.

    At one point, Wiedemer even calls out Bernanke, saying that his “money from heaven will be the path to hell.”

    Shocking Footage: See the eerie chart that exposes the ‘unthinkable.’
    But it’s not just the grim predictions that are causing the sensation; rather, it’s the comprehensive blueprint for economic survival that’s really commanding global attention.

    The interview offers realistic, step-by-step solutions that the average hard-working American can easily follow.

    The overwhelming amount of feedback to publicize the interview, initially screened for a private audience, came with consequences as various online networks repeatedly shut it down and affiliates refused to house the content.

    Bernanke and Greenspan were not about to support Wiedemer publicly, nor were the mainstream media.

    “People were sitting up and taking notice, and they begged us to make the interview public so they could easily share it,” said Newsmax Financial Publisher Aaron DeHoog, “but unfortunately, it kept getting pulled.”

    “Our real concern,” DeHoog added, “is what if only half of Faber and Wiedemer’s predictions come true?

    That’s a scary thought for sure. But we want the average American to be prepared, and that is why we will continue to push this video to as many outlets as we can. We want the word to spread.”

    Editor’s Note: For a limited time, Newsmax is showing the Wiedemer interview and supplying viewers with copies of the new, updated Aftershock book including the final, unpublished chapter. Go here to view it now.





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    Default Re: Faber: ‘Massive Wealth Destruction’ Coming, Well-to-Do ‘May Lose 50%’

    The infomercial format of the video at the link is annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DualCarbon View Post
    The infomercial format of the video at the link is annoying.
    Same. I turned it off. Heck, we all know what's gonna happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bemac View Post
    Same. I turned it off. Heck, we all know what's gonna happen.
    Sad but true, yet my loved ones do not, and cannot envisage the magnitude, let alone the destructive forces that are lining up to wipe out their hard earned nest egg.

    In thus context, I thank ye for posting, as I will pass it on in the hope.....................

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    So what are the cliff notes version of what we need to do to protect ourselves? I can't see PMs alone saving us. In fact, PMs might not even do us any good at all if inflation is as bad as they say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DualCarbon View Post
    The infomercial format of the video at the link is annoying.
    Yes I agree.
    These guys have a secure job on the home shopping network waiting for them.
    And if you click on the link for the free book, you find that all you have to do is spend $47.00 to get the free book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CiscoKid View Post
    So what are the cliff notes version of what we need to do to protect ourselves? I can't see PMs alone saving us. In fact, PMs might not even do us any good at all if inflation is as bad as they say.
    If that were to happen i'd assume you'd want to have the capability to be self sufficient for a significant period of time, food/water, protection from those who don't have it, among other things. I think PMs would be a great longer term investment in the case of extreme inflation, but short term who knows. They may not be accepted as payment for goods or if they are you may have to pay crazy prices.

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    various online networks repeatedly shut it down and affiliates refused to house the content.

    Huge suprise there.......
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    Did anybody make it till the end of the video? I could not, so I'll have look for the book of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by latemetal View Post
    Did anybody make it till the end of the video? I could not, so I'll have look for the book of course.
    I suffered through the whole thing. Here's what I managed to capture. Without being able to back up, I wasn't able to double-check some of the odder things that he said, and missed some of the lists that he rattled off.
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    First he says that hyperinflation won't happen--"hyperinflation is 50% inflation and it won't happen here. We're not Zimbabwe."

    But in the next sentence he goes on to say that we COULD see 100% for three consecutive years.

    10,20,30 % annual inflations are worse than 50%. Almost all the damage will be done by the time we get to

    Talks about us owing favors to China,

    That foreign investors will start to lose confidence by 2013, and by 2016 massive exodus by foreign investors from U.S. markets.

    4 out of every 10 dollars that the government spends is borrowed, and it's unsustainable. So interest rates will have to go up and the U.S. will raise taxes.

    Housing prices fell for 57 months straight. Figures another 5-8 percent decline, and another huge decline soon as interest rates rise again.

    Stock markets in short term, money printing will prop up markets.
    By 2013 high inflation, high interest rates, risky U.S. debt will become poison to markets.
    90% drop in stock market and 50% unemployment. "But this will be temporary. Will recover."

    "Believes that people that don't buy his book will lose most of their money."

    America in "Aftershock"
    savings drastically lower
    inflation rates up
    home values plummet
    pensions unstable
    more joblessness

    "Hidden bubble" ? -- secret revealed if you accept Newsmax offer

    Ways to protect your wealth
    stay away from real estate. Hasn't bottomed.
    sell home if you can--rent instead
    Refinance immediately if you have a variable rate
    Do not pay down your home mortgage, pay down more important debt (car loan), invest wisely, save
    Pay off car loan. Will need car.
    Pay off credit cards as soon as possible.

    Once interest rates hit 10%, insurance companies will be at risk. Don't have whole life. Use term life.

    healthcare
    ???
    utilities
    basic food
    basic ???
    government services

    Tax tips
    look into estate planning
    give gifts to children now

    Fan of gold - bull run at least another decade or more.
    Buy gold in depository
    Gold ETFs backed by physical
    gold mining stocks

    Other investments
    other precious metals
    short-term bonds until inflation sets in NO LONG TERM BONDS
    after inflation money markets and t-bills
    foreign currencies likes krona, swiss france, UVN, long-term play to held against dollar
    stock options and commodities
    agricultural commodities

    Marketing for Aftershock II with associated "freebees" Five items....including...
    "High Income report and Financial Intelligence Report" promising some pretty outrageous returns for you.
    ================================================== =========================

    Some of the points the boggled me were:
    • Hyperinflation won't happen in the U.S., but we could see 100% for three consecutive years.
    • Worst case 90% drop in stock market and 50% unemployment. "But this will be temporary. Will recover" --Recover back up to pre-drop conditions? REALLY???
    • DON'T pay off the house, and instead pay off the CREDIT CARD and the car??? The credit care is unsecured. Why the hell do I want to pay it off? I have a fixed rate of 5.9%--lower than many people's mortgages! What will I do without a place to live, grow food and raise chickens?
    • I got distracted for a second and didn't quite understand the logical leap from "unsustainable U.S. debt" to "will cause interest rates to rise." Huh?


    If anyone can shed light on the points giving me consternation, please do!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralleia View Post
    Hyperinflation won't happen in the U.S., but we could see 100% for three consecutive years.
    I suppose what he is saying is that the dollar will not hit zero. We still have food, oil, and tech. People want them, they need dollars to get them, that creates demand and thus, value, for dollars.

    Worst case 90% drop in stock market and 50% unemployment. "But this will be temporary. Will recover" --Recover back up to pre-drop conditions? REALLY???
    Valued in gold, yeah, 90% drop in stocks seems plausible.

    DON'T pay off the house, and instead pay off the CREDIT CARD and the car??? The credit care is unsecured. Why the hell do I want to pay it off? I have a fixed rate of 5.9%--lower than many people's mortgages! What will I do without a place to live, grow food and raise chickens?
    With a fixed rate, a home loan is not a burden, same for car loans. CC companies can jack up IR's, and will do so.

    I got distracted for a second and didn't quite understand the logical leap from "unsustainable U.S. debt" to "will cause interest rates to rise." Huh?[/LIST]
    Bond bubble pops, holders of government debt will sell, that causes long term interest rates to rise regardless of what Benny Bernanke wants.

    We like to complain about the declining value of the dollar, and rightfully so, but in actuality, the dollar has been unnaturally inflated in value for decades. As the world's reserve currency, there has been a massive unnatural demand for dollars, that greatly props up its value. This will inevitably come to an end.

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