US fed prepares and warns for civil unrest on a massive scale.

[smilershouse]

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American Predictions
Posted on May 4, 2012 by Stuart Wilde


I have predicted the collapse of the dollar five or six years ago and then civil war. I’ve said the red-neck vigilantes win in the west CA, AZ, etc., and I’m not sure what happens in the east. The dollar fell to a thirty year low two weeks ago.

Here is article quoting a Department of Homeland Security informant about the governments preparation for civil war. It’s very interesting.
“We are Preparing for Massive Civil War,” Says DHS Informant
Posted by Dominique de Kevelioc de Bailleul on May 03, 2012 | 41 comments
In a riveting interview on TruNews Radio, Wednesday, private investigator Doug Hagmann said high-level, reliable sources told him the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is preparing for “massive civil war” in America.
“Folks, we’re getting ready for one massive economic collapse,” Hagmann told TruNews host Rick Wiles. Sign-up for my 100% FREE Alerts

“We have problems . . . The federal government is preparing for civil uprising,” he added, “so every time you hear about troop movements, every time you hear about movements of military equipment, the militarization of the police, the buying of the ammunition, all of this is . . . they (DHS) are preparing for a massive uprising.”
Hagmann goes on to say that his sources tell him the concerns of the DHS stem from a collapse of the U.S. dollar and the hyperinflation a collapse in the value of the world’s primary reserve currency implies to a nation of 311 million Americans, who, for the significant portion of the population, is armed.
Uprisings in Greece is, indeed, a problem, but an uprising of armed Americans becomes a matter of serious national security, a point addressed in a recent report by the Pentagon and highlighted as a vulnerability and threat to the U.S. during war-game exercises at the Department of Defense last year, according to one of the DoD’s war-game participants, Jim Rickards, author of Currency Wars: The Making of the Next Global Crisis.
Through his sources, Hagmann confirmed Rickards’
ongoing thesis of a fear of a U.S. dollar collapse at the hands of the Chinese (U.S. treasury bond holders of approximately $1 trillion) and, possibly, the Russians (threatening to launch a gold-backed ruble as an attractive alternative to the U.S. dollar) in retaliation for aggressive U.S. foreign policy initiatives against China’s and Russia’s strategic allies Iran and Syria.
“The one source that we have I’ve known since 1979,” Hagmann continued. “He started out as a patrol officer and currently he is now working for a federal agency under the umbrella of the Department of Homeland Security; he’s in a position to know what policies are being initiated, what policies are being planned at this point, and he’s telling us right now—look, what you’re seeing is just the tip of the iceberg. We are preparing, we, meaning the government, we are preparing for a massive civil war in this country.”
“There’s no hyperbole here,” he added, echoing Trends Research Institute’s Founder Gerald Celente’s forecast of last year. Celente expects a collapse of the U.S. dollar and riots in America some time this year.
Since Celente’s ‘Civil War’ prediction of last year, executive orders NDAA and National Defense Resources Preparedness were signed into law by President Obama, which are both politically damaging actions taken by a sitting president.
And most recently, requests made by the DHS for the procurement of 450 million rounds of hollow-point ammunition only fuels speculation of an upcoming tragic event expected on American soil.
These major events, as shocking to the American people as they are, have taken place during an election year.

Escalating preparatory activities by the executive branch and DHS throughout the last decade—from the Patriot Act, to countless executive orders drafted to suspend (or strip) American civil liberties “are just the beginning” of the nightmare to come, Hagmann said.
He added, “It’s going to get so much worse toward the election, and I’m not even sure we’re going to have an election in this country. It’s going to be that bad, and this, as well, is coming from my sources. But one source in particular said, ‘look, you don’t understand how bad it is.’ This stuff is real; these people, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), they are ready to fight the American people.”
TruNews‘ Wiles asked Hagmann: who does the DHS expect to fight, in particular? Another North versus South, the Yankees against the Confederates? Hagmann stated the situation is far worse than a struggle between any two factions within the U.S.; it’s an anticipated nationwide emergency event centered on the nation’s currency.
“What they [DHS] are expecting, and again, this is according to my sources, what they’re expecting is the un-sustainability of the American dollar,” Hagmann said. “And we know for a fact that we can no longer service our debt. There’s going to be a period of hyperinflation . . . the dollar will be worthless . . . The economic collapse will be so severe, people won’t be ready for this

http://www.stuartwilde.com/2012/05/a...n-predictions/


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[RoyalBeluga]

Worldwide civil unrest?

[TimoneX]

"Through his sources, Hagmann confirmed Rickards’ ongoing thesis of a fear of a U.S. dollar collapse at the hands of the Chinese (U.S. treasury bond holders of approximately $1 trillion) and, possibly, the Russians (threatening to launch a gold-backed ruble as an attractive alternative to the U.S. dollar) in retaliation for aggressive U.S. foreign policy initiatives against China’s and Russia’s strategic allies Iran and Syria."

Yeah it's all those darn Chinese people's fault. Them and Russia. Uh no, the banskters done it with their puppet politician figureheads and I hope there's enough rope to go around when the time comes. This is gonna get ugly.

[Fiat Metaler]

where i live, they have been working overtime to upgrade all the curbs and medians to 8" tall to create easily enforced choke points.

it would probably be prudent to buy enough pressure treated plywood to cover all of my windows, and to measure and cut them now.

probably also prudent to buy some kevlar. would appreciate links to recs on kevlar.

[TimoneX]

...and teflon. Great for cooking without sticking.

[REO 54]

...and teflon. Great for cooking without sticking.

....you mean teflon coated lead..non sticking to B.P.vests?

[TimoneX]

WHAT?!? That'd be illegal truck. I'll have no part of that.

[mayhem]

Ya know for years they been building these so called "Sound Walls" along the interstate. Wife says to me dis morn'in. greg, did they build them walls to keep people trapped on the Interstate WTSHTF?

Makes sense to me, nowhere to run, y'all be trapped if you try to leave. Then they could do a Iraq highway of death on y'r a$$.

Nothing lives forever, so Bring it On fukkers.

[Merlin]

Ya know for years they been building these so called "Sound Walls" along the interstate. Wife says to me dis morn'in. greg, did they build them walls to keep people trapped on the Interstate WTSHTF?

Makes sense to me, nowhere to run, y'all be trapped if you try to leave. Then they could do a Iraq highway of death on y'r a$$.

Nothing lives forever, so Bring it On fukkers.

Takeaway: If you're fleeing to your retreat place, plan your route to avoid the interstates. I know for a fact that I can drive from Indiana to the Mississippi River without leaving asphalt country roads. Only a few small towns along the way.

[REO 54]

Takeaway: If you're fleeing to your retreat place, plan your route to avoid the interstates. I know for a fact that I can drive from Indiana to the Mississippi River without leaving asphalt country roads. Only a few small towns along the way.

You should be there already....if not....well take your chances. The scenerio or travelling on interstates WTSHTF is just a bad idea
to begin with.

[goldie40]

“There’s no hyperbole here,” he added, echoing Trends Research Institute’s Founder Gerald Celente’s forecast of last year. Celente expects a collapse of the U.S. dollar and riots in America some time this year.



Celente predicts a collapse ever year. he's beginning to lose credibility, not that i want a collapse to prove him right..

[smilershouse]

Agendas,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

No one can predict another's agenda, or to infringe on another's freedom. We should have had a collapse in 2007/8, and yet, the agenda of QE superseded commonsense.

Only Iceland done the right thing, as for the rest of us, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Well, the rest is history.

SH

[hammerhead]

Preparing or creating? Be afriad. Be very afraid.

[smilershouse]

Preparing or creating? Be afriad. Be very afraid.

Be afraid indeed,

Indeed, the timing of this among other countries is also food for thought. Sarkozy loses in France, and then on the same day, this;

http://www.news.com.au/world/neo-naz...-1226348890768

Something eery in the air.

SH

[Thornapple]

Ya know for years they been building these so called "Sound Walls" along the interstate. Wife says to me dis morn'in. greg, did they build them walls to keep people trapped on the Interstate WTSHTF?

Makes sense to me, nowhere to run, y'all be trapped if you try to leave. Then they could do a Iraq highway of death on y'r a$$.

Nothing lives forever, so Bring it On fukkers.

Ever wonder why they had so many of those over-pass bridges for "pedestrians" that often go nowhere? Some are used, but a lot of them are in strange places with nothing on either side and are rarely or never used. Those are placed at strategic choke points so they can blow them up to collapse on the highway trapping people within a city and preventing travel in/out.

[andial]

Says DHS Informant

I stopped reading the article right after that line.

[Nickelless]

IMO one of the biggest mistakes the feds can make is to assume that the military will fall in line behind their civilian "leaders" one the SHTF. I wouldn't be surprised to see fragging taking place if the hierarchy tells the troops to fire on their fellow citizens.

[goldie40]

IMO one of the biggest mistakes the feds can make is to assume that the military will fall in line behind their civilian "leaders" one the SHTF. I wouldn't be surprised to see fragging taking place if the hierarchy tells the troops to fire on their fellow citizens.

there are some troops who would fire on anyone just like there are LEO who would slam an old lady with a walker up against a wall. there are sadistic homicidal bullies in all places. They feel the best when they're making others suffer or hurting them in some way.

I remember one movie where someone asked a soldier how he could shoot a fleeing women or kid, the soldier said, it's easy, you just don't lead them so far.

[TimoneX]

I remember one movie where someone asked a soldier how he could shoot a fleeing women or kid, the soldier said, it's easy, you just don't lead them so far.

one movie was Full Metal Jacket.

Door Gunner: Git some! Git some! Git some, yeah, yeah, yeah! Anyone who runs, is a VC. Anyone who stands still, is a well-disciplined VC! You guys oughta do a story about me sometime!
Private Joker: Why should we do a story about you?
Door Gunner: 'Cuz I'm so ****in' good! I done got me 157 dead gooks killed. Plus 50 water buffalo, too! Them's all confirmed!
Private Joker: Any women or children?
Door Gunner: Sometimes!
Private Joker: How can you shoot women or children?
Door Gunner: Easy! Ya just don't lead 'em so much! Ain't war hell?

[gb1980]

We had this same type topic a few years back in the first generation GIM. I stated then and will repeat myself for all of the new members. There are not enough military (active, reserve, guard) and or police personnel to take control of the country if we have massaive civil unrest. The Army and Marines are so small that they would be hardpreseed to take control of major cities on a 24 hour basis. My rationale was that a Army division of soldiers (10,000-12,000) couldn't control a major city 24 hours a day. They couldn't patrol every block or street in the city 24 hours a day. Just to patrol in force (many vehicles and many soldiers or Marines) any major city like Chicago would require a corp (many divisions) of soldiers. Now multiply that times 20-30 major cities (i.e., LA, D.C., Atlanta, Jacksonville, Miami, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Newark, Milwaukee, San Fransisco, Seattle, Memphis, Dallas, Houston, New Orleans) and what do you get? Not enough military and or police to do the job. Then it comes down to which cities get the troops? My bet would be on D.C. and New York would be a priority and then any national regional objective city like L.A., Atlanta and Chicago, Seattle, Jacksonville, Omaha and or Kansas City. The authorities will not be able effectively control massive civil unrest.

[bemac]

We had this same type topic a few years back in the first generation GIM. I stated then and will repeat myself for all of the new members. There are not enough military (active, reserve, guard) and or police personnel to take control of the country if we have massaive civil unrest. The Army and Marines are so small that they would be hardpreseed to take control of major cities on a 24 hour basis. My rationale was that a Army division of soldiers (10,000-12,000) couldn't control a major city 24 hours a day. They couldn't patrol every block or street in the city 24 hours a day. Just to patrol in force (many vehicles and many soldiers or Marines) any major city like Chicago would require a corp (many divisions) of soldiers. Now multiply that times 20-30 major cities (i.e., LA, D.C., Atlanta, Jacksonville, Miami, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Newark, Milwaukee, San Fransisco, Seattle, Memphis, Dallas, Houston, New Orleans) and what do you get? Not enough military and or police to do the job. Then it comes down to which cities get the troops? My bet would be on D.C. and New York would be a priority and then any national regional objective city like L.A., Atlanta and Chicago, Seattle, Jacksonville, Omaha and or Kansas City. The authorities will not be able effectively control massive civil unrest.

Or to put it simply...

Iraq = 25 million people

USA = 325 million people

[Cornelius]

Or to put it simply...

Iraq = 25 million people

USA = 325 million people

I disagree. The Tv/mass media, is the barb wire fence that will contain 90 percent of the people. All the rest will be shot or rounded up as required.
I wish I were wrong, but that is the way it appears. The idea, that the people will magically wake up because of dire need AND THEN actually be anti-police or anti-goverment enough to take action into their own hands, is highly doubtful, in my opionion.

[Zilver]

IMO one of the biggest mistakes the feds can make is to assume that the military will fall in line behind their civilian "leaders" one the SHTF. I wouldn't be surprised to see fragging taking place if the hierarchy tells the troops to fire on their fellow citizens.

[smilershouse]

In the event something of civil unrest does occur, foresee that that civil war, (which has the dangers of following thus) will ensue.

Such will be the balancing of freedom Vs slavery. One has to remember, that not all the cops, HS, and members of the Armed forces will agree with their high commands. As I read sometime back, the US forces in Iraq would choose to turn their weapons onto Obama and co. Every day US soldiers are committing suicide because of a pointless, fabricated war.

If civil unrest does arrive, the well armed citizens of the US could very well experience members of the Armed forces defecting onto the side of the civilians.

Just my take.

SH

[Joseph]

In the event something of civil unrest does occur, foresee that that civil war, (which has the dangers of following thus) will ensue.

Such will be the balancing of freedom Vs slavery. One has to remember, that not all the cops, HS, and members of the Armed forces will agree with their high commands. As I read sometime back, the US forces in Iraq would choose to turn their weapons onto Obama and co. Every day US soldiers are committing suicide because of a pointless, fabricated war.

If civil unrest does arrive, the well armed citizens of the US could very well experience members of the Armed forces defecting onto the side of the civilians.

Just my take.

SH

I'd like to believe that, SH - maybe some members of US armed forces would defect to the civilian side, but I think there's more to it than that. Look at "Oathkeepers" vids. After a great intro of nice pictures of American flags waving in the breeze, and beautiful music from " The Last Mohican"starting at 2:45 into the video, then on to Katrina, the police and marines.

They did just what their bosses told them to do, to a man. EVERYBODY followed orders.




And GH's post about people moderately inconvenienced in his grocery store - THAT is the reality of what one can expect from a group of freedom loving, church going, family value, conservative individuals turned mob mentality in a very short period of time.

I already have a mental list of people I can trust when it goes to the street. Unfortunately it's a very short list.



http://www.goldismoney2.com/showthre...-grocery-store

This will not end well. Hopefully I'm mistaken.

Joseph

[smilershouse]

I'd like to believe that, SH - maybe some members of US armed forces would defect to the civilian side, but I think there's more to it than that. Look at "Oathkeepers" vids. After a great intro of nice pictures of American flags waving in the breeze, and beautiful music from " The Last Mohican"starting at 2:45 into the video, then on to Katrina, the police and marines.

They did just what their bosses told them to do, to a man. EVERYBODY followed orders.




And GH's post about people moderately inconvenienced in his grocery store - THAT is the reality of what one can expect from a group of freedom loving, church going, family value, conservative individuals turned mob mentality in a very short period of time.

I already have a mental list of people I can trust when it goes to the street. Unfortunately it's a very short list.



http://www.goldismoney2.com/showthre...-grocery-store

This will not end well. Hopefully I'm mistaken.

Joseph

Thanks Joseph,

My take is that it will end well. It will be the transition that will be without pain. But the painful transition is what will be required, because the world will not be able to rid the world of its dark, corrupted forces until they are out fully in the open where everybody can see and understand it all.

At the moment, (while many people are waking up suddenly) there are many others that continue believe in their TV, newspapers, blind faiths, political leaders, religious mullah's et al, and blithely living in their own sense of innocence, also need to be shown that these groups are too part of the problem.

It will end well, for those that make it anyways.

SH

[smilershouse]

Saw that vid Joseph,

Very unfortunate for the resident of New Orleans, no person deserves to go through that, and it disgusts me that the authority can treat animals like the way they treated those poor people. However, we have reached a tipping point in history, and that is, more people are now asking awkward questions.

At the start of WW1, 'boys' were lying about these age to join up and fight the good fight against our Saxon brothers. The same propaganda existed some 20 years later in WW2. The Korea came and people begun to see the senseless point of war.

When Viet Nam commenced, people become divided, and patriotism become questionable. Nowadays people are frequently running away from Army subscripts on the prowl handing out Army business cards, and looking for recruits. People don't care about patriotism, and even more are waking up to the collectivist model, choosing individualism instead; Hence the disagreements and melees.

You are right about trusting few people, I am the same. I can count on my family, and can count my trusted unconditional friends on one hand, and feel very gifted. Conditional mates come and go, and there are many a good Spirit walking the streets and driving their cars when our paths cross. For the rest, I have nothing to do with them.

SH

[Joseph]

Thanks Joseph,

My take is that it will end well. It will be the transition that will be without pain. But the painful transition is what will be required, because the world will not be able to rid the world of its dark, corrupted forces until they are out fully in the open where everybody can see and understand it all.

At the moment, (while many people are waking up suddenly) there are many others that continue believe in their TV, newspapers, blind faiths, political leaders, religious mullah's et al, and blithely living in their own sense of innocence, also need to be shown that these groups are too part of the problem.

It will end well, for those that make it anyways.

SH

SH -
I was going to put your whole comment in bold, but that would have defeated the purpose of putting text in bold, I think ... ok - I'm back on board with the positive outlook. sometimes I get a bit cynical. I too have family and a couple of friends ( not acquaintances ) who I can truly depend on. I can live with that - ( that, and some Au. Ag, and Pb)


So glad I found this site.

ciao,
Joseph



" The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter."
-- Winston Churchill

[smilershouse]

Yes Joseph,

GiM2 is a great site. What I like about it is that no matter who you are, there is a fundamental respect for all members, and trolls are quickly removed. GiM2 is made up of some great mods and members with excellent knowledge. The golden rule here is respect, that is why I love it so much.

I can truthfully say that I trust more people here at GiM2 than many in the vicinity of this home.

Yup, its a great club is GiM2. I joined GiM when G-Khan was around, and have never looked back from the knowledge and wisdom that has been both shared and learned.

SH

[Fiat Metaler]

I stopped reading the article right after that line.

they got me with the phrase, "red-neck vigilantes." lol

[Unca Walt]

What I have not seen here... and what I believe to be the absolutely highest probability... is the true/deadly danger:

Americans will BEG the gummint for martial law.

BEG.

You get riots and cities burning and lotsa looting... and what will J6P ask for? Yup. You got it.

IN THAT (VERY HIGHLY LIKELY) CASE, THE MILITARY WILL FOLLOW GUMMINT ORDERS.



There It Is.

Unfortunately.

No... this will NOT end well.

[Irons]

What I have not seen here... and what I believe to be the absolutely highest probability... is the true/deadly danger:

Americans will BEG the gummint for martial law.

BEG.

You get riots and cities burning and lotsa looting... and what will J6P ask for? Yup. You got it.

IN THAT (VERY HIGHLY LIKELY) CASE, THE MILITARY WILL FOLLOW GUMMINT ORDERS.



There It Is.

Unfortunately.

No... this will NOT end well.

Are you saying the teevee brainwashed, cell phone addicted, GM food fattened, big pharma medicated debt slaves wont fight for thier freedom, thier constitution and thier country?

Well, call me stunned and amazed!

[fewferfev]

There are other ways developed to control people...and no need for humans to direct them...the future of control
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...veillance.html

[Hystckndle]

We had this same type topic a few years back in the first generation GIM. I stated then and will repeat myself for all of the new members. There are not enough military (active, reserve, guard) and or police personnel to take control of the country if we have massaive civil unrest. The Army and Marines are so small that they would be hardpreseed to take control of major cities on a 24 hour basis. My rationale was that a Army division of soldiers (10,000-12,000) couldn't control a major city 24 hours a day. They couldn't patrol every block or street in the city 24 hours a day. Just to patrol in force (many vehicles and many soldiers or Marines) any major city like Chicago would require a corp (many divisions) of soldiers. Now multiply that times 20-30 major cities (i.e., LA, D.C., Atlanta, Jacksonville, Miami, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Newark, Milwaukee, San Fransisco, Seattle, Memphis, Dallas, Houston, New Orleans) and what do you get? Not enough military and or police to do the job. Then it comes down to which cities get the troops? My bet would be on D.C. and New York would be a priority and then any national regional objective city like L.A., Atlanta and Chicago, Seattle, Jacksonville, Omaha and or Kansas City. The authorities will not be able effectively control massive civil unrest.

Good stuff.

It is all about math and logistics.

[Merkin]

I disagree. The Tv/mass media, is the barb wire fence that will contain 90 percent of the people. All the rest will be shot or rounded up as required.
I wish I were wrong, but that is the way it appears. The idea, that the people will magically wake up because of dire need AND THEN actually be anti-police or anti-government enough to take action into their own hands, is highly doubtful, in my opinion.

My wife and I have discussed this and for the most part agree with your comment here, but we have also agreed to die fighting if we must.

[CiscoKid]

Are you saying the teevee brainwashed, cell phone addicted, GM food fattened, big pharma medicated debt slaves wont fight for thier freedom, thier constitution and thier country?

Well, call me stunned and amazed!

You want to see the unwashed masses good and pissed and ready for an uprising? Cancel Americal Idol and Dancing with the Clueless and put on nightly specials with Joy Behar and Ophrah on instead. Better yet, replace the Indy 500 with two hours of Obama speeches. You will see cities burn for that, my friend.