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    An Incan Girl, Frozen for 500 years!

    15 year old girl from the Incan Empire who has been frozen for 500 years. (She was a sacrifice)

    SALTA, Argentina — The maiden, the boy, the girl of lightning: they were three Inca children, entombed on a bleak and frigid mountaintop 500 years ago as a religious sacrifice…

    Unearthed in 1999 from the 22,000-foot summit of Mount Llullaillaco, a volcano 300 miles west of here near the Chilean border, their frozen bodies were among the best preserved mummies ever found, with internal organs intact, blood still present in the heart and lungs, and skin and facial features mostly unscathed. No special effort had been made to preserve them. The cold and the dry, thin air did all the work. They froze to death as they slept, and 500 years later still looked like sleeping children, not mummies.



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    So this girl was frozen for FIVE HUNDRED YEARS??? If my ex could be immortal she'd break that record with NO problem.

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    That is so sad.
    For behold, the day is coming, burning like a furnace;
    and all the arrogant and every evildoer will be chaff;
    and the day that is coming will set them ablaze
    so that it will leave them neither root nor branch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by <SLV> View Post
    That is so sad.
    Worse than that -- it makes be angry. Tears came into my eyes as I looked at the pictures and realized that someone took that precious girl to a mountain top, let her fall asleep with hypothermia, then placed her in a crevice of the rock to freeze to death.

    Humanity disgusts me.
    For behold, the day is coming, burning like a furnace;
    and all the arrogant and every evildoer will be chaff;
    and the day that is coming will set them ablaze
    so that it will leave them neither root nor branch.
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    W o w ..........

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    Interesting that her skin is still brown and that no animals fed on her.


    What's interesting about someone taking her up there as a sacrifice is the dogma behind the decision...
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    Worse than that -- it makes be angry. Tears came into my eyes as I looked at the pictures and realized that someone took that precious girl to a mountain top, let her fall asleep with hypothermia, then placed her in a crevice of the rock to freeze to death.

    Humanity disgusts me.
    I understand, but there are much worse ways to die--like the way the Aztecs offered up sacrifices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unclad Lad View Post
    I understand, but there are much worse ways to die--like the way the Aztecs offered up sacrifices.
    I'm with Unclad Lad on this. Yes, terrible she was left to freeze to death and then stuck in a rock crevasse for eternity! But I would pick that for myself than to be held across a stone alter and have my heart cut out while I watch! Both good example of why I lean strongly towards being an athiest.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unclad Lad View Post
    I understand, but there are much worse ways to die--like the way the Aztecs offered up sacrifices.
    I would think the civil war here in the divided states could have been much worse death. WW1 dieing in some mud hole or WW2 being fire bombed in Dresden or dieing on some beach fighting a people I had no clue about. Then there was dieing in some place like Korea or Vietnam fighting against a people you might have even liked?

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    If aliens from Zeta Reticuli or wherever have been watching the development of Planet Earth the way we watch ant colonies, they would have to conclude that the human race is brutal, barbaric and "uncivilized."


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    QWAK,I must have seemed a good idea at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unclad Lad View Post
    I understand, but there are much worse ways to die--like the way the Aztecs offered up sacrifices.
    It isn't the manner of death that is so disgusting. It is the deliberate and methodical way in which this girl's parents/family chose to kill her -- that is disgusting. I'm a father of 4 girls, and I can't imagine how perverse a father's heart would have to be to kill his teen daughter. Did she KNOW she was going to BE the sacrifice? I have a hard time believing she would have fallen asleep so peacefully if that was the case.
    For behold, the day is coming, burning like a furnace;
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    If I may recommend a book (not mine! ) "The Far Arena" by Richard Sapir.

    I've read it perhaps six times over the years. (It came out in 1978.) It is riveting/fascinating. Wonderful.

    "It chronicles the adventures of Eugeni, a Roman gladiator from Domitian's period, who, due to an unlikely series of events, is frozen in ice for 1900 years before being found by the Houghton Oil Company on a prospecting mission in the North Atlantic."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldhedge View Post
    Interesting that her skin is still brown and that no animals fed on her.
    Not much wildlife at 22k feet. 4k short of the Everest/K2/Annapurna "death zones" and well above the treeline. Not many birds even fly that high, let alone roost or nest.

    The Condors don't like it much above 14k. Easier pickings and more oxygen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by <SLV> View Post
    It isn't the manner of death that is so disgusting. It is the deliberate and methodical way in which this girl's parents/family chose to kill her -- that is disgusting. I'm a father of 4 girls, and I can't imagine how perverse a father's heart would have to be to kill his teen daughter. Did she KNOW she was going to BE the sacrifice? I have a hard time believing she would have fallen asleep so peacefully if that was the case.
    I don't disagree based on the values for which we were taught.

    They just had a different value system.

    But hey, she lived 500 years ago. In hindsight, the end result would have been the same. Plenty of gruesome and unnecessary murders before this poor girl... and plenty more to come (sadly).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldfarmer View Post
    I'm with Unclad Lad on this. Yes, terrible she was left to freeze to death and then stuck in a rock crevasse for eternity! But I would pick that for myself than to be held across a stone alter and have my heart cut out while I watch! Both good example of why I lean strongly towards being an athiest.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by <SLV> View Post
    It isn't the manner of death that is so disgusting. It is the deliberate and methodical way in which this girl's parents/family chose to kill her -- that is disgusting. I'm a father of 4 girls, and I can't imagine how perverse a father's heart would have to be to kill his teen daughter. Did she KNOW she was going to BE the sacrifice? I have a hard time believing she would have fallen asleep so peacefully if that was the case.
    ...if she had parents or family. She could have been an orphan and left as an easy choice to sacrifice.

    Are we any better when we have murdered more than 50 million babies in our country in the last 50 years? Who is more savage?
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    Who knows, she might have been a "volunteer."

    TPTB may have promised her whatever the Inca equivalent might have been to today's Islamic "72 virgins in heaven" promise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by <SLV> View Post
    It isn't the manner of death that is so disgusting. It is the deliberate and methodical way in which this girl's parents/family chose to kill her -- that is disgusting. I'm a father of 4 girls, and I can't imagine how perverse a father's heart would have to be to kill his teen daughter. Did she KNOW she was going to BE the sacrifice? I have a hard time believing she would have fallen asleepv so peacefully if that was the case.
    But you're not looking at it right. Don't you know how cool and advanced these MesoAmerican "civilizations" were? I mean golly, they had astronomical observations better than Europeans at the time, advanced mathematics and arts and all that cool stuff! We'll just overlook their brutal, bloodthirsty savagery. Before anyone gets on their high horse, yeah Western Civilization doesn't get a pass, either, but I'd still take it, over any of the great, oh-so-advanced MesoAmerican civilizations.
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    Not much wildlife at 22k feet. 4k short of the Everest/K2/Annapurna "death zones" and well above the treeline. Not many birds even fly that high, let alone roost or nest.

    The Condors don't like it much above 14k. Easier pickings and more oxygen.
    I saw a condor land on the Polish glacier on Aconcagua at 20,000 feet, probably going after a climbers stashed or dropped food.

    She was higher than that and hidden, so they did not see her I'm guessing.

    And I'm also guessing that her parents had no choice in the matter. Kind of like your son being drafted into the civil or vietnam war.
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    And I'm also guessing that her parents had no choice in the matter. Kind of like your son being drafted into the civil or vietnam war.
    Right, it might have been a great honor for the family to have their child selected for this "event."
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    I think she lost a bet or her dad lost the soccer game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argentium View Post
    But you're not looking at it right. Don't you know how cool and advanced these MesoAmerican "civilizations" were? I mean golly, they had astronomical observations better than Europeans at the time, advanced mathematics and arts and all that cool stuff! We'll just overlook their brutal, bloodthirsty savagery. Before anyone gets on their high horse, yeah Western Civilization doesn't get a pass, either, but I'd still take it, over any of the great, oh-so-advanced MesoAmerican civilizations.
    QWAK,Argentium,They did not have the WHEEL and did not have DOORS or LOCKS either!

    When Cortes arived what amased him and his men most there was NO CRIME or THEFT like in Europe -- they simply placed a stick across the door way --- if any one entered and crossed the stick --- it became there turn NEXT to be SACRIFICED!

    They found OTHER solutions for EXCESS population and built cities biger and cleaner than any in Europe including France England and Italy!

    They domesticated CORN and POTATOES which ultimitly fead the over populated Europe!

    Yes there perspective was very diferent from the conventional european norms but it worked for them

    At the same time back in England France and Spain it was accepted NORM to hang a THIEF and let the corps ROT as a mesage to others NOT to take other peoples things!

    Montazuma payed the randsom and they killed him any way! there is your EUROPEAN values at work!

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    I saw a condor land on the Polish glacier on Aconcagua at 20,000 feet, probably going after a climbers stashed or dropped food.

    She was higher than that and hidden, so they did not see her I'm guessing.

    And I'm also guessing that her parents had no choice in the matter. Kind of like your son being drafted into the civil or vietnam war.
    That, and she didn't stink much.
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    GD, I don't play the "Western Civ Bad", "Other Civs Good" game. The Meso's had a fondness for carving one's beating heart from their chest, we had crucifixions. beheadings, burning at the stake and other drastic forms of public execution. I have been to a few of the Mayan ruins and experienced a heavy sense of foreboding, almost a fear reaction. I never have experienced that at any other historic ruins, or a church.

    My point is; I've never heard that the accomplishments of the West in art or science will whitewash our crimes. This apparently doesn't appear to apply to other civilizations like the Maya, or the Aztecs. So, some stone ruins and knowing where Sirius will be in the sky, 2000 years in the future, makes it OK to overlook those societies odd need for the horrific deaths of many, many people?

    Trust me, academic types love to spout this horsesh!t. In my Master's program, I had to take the course "History of Astronomy". The condensed version; The ancient Greeks definitely took a backseat to the Arabs, Persians, the Chinese and MesoAmericans. I could not stomach the anti-Western sentiments of the instructor and fellow students and dropped the course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldmansmith View Post
    I saw a condor land on the Polish glacier on Aconcagua at 20,000 feet, probably going after a climbers stashed or dropped food.
    She was higher than that and hidden, so they did not see her I'm guessing.
    And I'm also guessing that her parents had no choice in the matter. Kind of like your son being drafted into the civil or vietnam war.
    Always wanted to do that one OMS,
    ( and a few others before it is to late ) whoop arse approach and follow through ...
    Good friend of mine has been there I think 4 times now to Mendoza and out.
    But that is another subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldfarmer View Post
    I'm with Unclad Lad on this. Yes, terrible she was left to freeze to death and then stuck in a rock crevasse for eternity! But I would pick that for myself than to be held across a stone alter and have my heart cut out while I watch! Both good example of why I lean strongly towards being an athiest.......
    They probably ran out of atheists to sacrifice ...
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    Always wanted to do that one OMS,
    ( and a few others before it is to late ) whoop arse approach and follow through ...
    Good friend of mine has been there I think 4 times now to Mendoza and out.
    But that is another subject.
    You made my day with some side bar thoughts I have goping now.
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    Off topic, weather turned for the better, so we skipped the high camp and started at dusk, doing the steeper direct to the right, climbing all through the night. Steep styrofoam snow, front pointing and axe and hammer but no pro, killer stars and the magellanic cloud, well below zero. My buddy lost all the toes on his right foot.
    ( sorry GH for the quick OT sidebar... )
    Holy cow, yep, sounds like it musta not been the "tourist" route I would have to do with your direct bypass around high camp. Interesting.
    Gotta hand it to you for that. I will check it out in my book. Note to self: toes and fingers ( and other appendages ) go fast up there.
    Been close and it is humbling. Regards OMS.

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    QWAK,After pondering on this subject it occures to me that we all percieve our world/reality threw glasses with lenses that are distorted and ground by the people and cultures around us so that virtualy ANY thing is posable and socialy acceptable and the actions taken go unquestioned or even resisted because they beacme the accepted NORM!

    When we try to judge and evaluate the actions of other cultures and in other times in history --- we can only use our own accepted conventional norms which them selves are also distorted views and not OBJECTIVELY detached from the percieved situation.

    I am thinking it has always been a CARTOON REALITY it was for the Romans with gladiators and crusifictions just as it was for the Myans and human sacrifices or even today with using economic/debt slavery and wars to reduce and controll populations.

    Nothing has actualy changed other than PERSPECTIVE --- all the basic eliments of the equasion remain the same and diferent SOLUTIONS are all a mix of right and wrong factors that maintain an unstable equalibrium that is temporary and potentialy explocive in social inviroments.

    ZOMBIES don't know or think or see them selves as ZOMBIES -- in there reality they are being and doing what seems NORMAL to them and all the others around them.

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    People SELDOM look for TRUTH! What they look for is CONFERMATION that what they have chosen to believe IS TRUTH! This is why people will believe almost ANY THING and also WHY the WORLD is SO MESSED UP!

    IT is never realy OVER -- things just CHANGE!

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    QWAK, It must have seemed a good idea at the time.

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    QWAK,Irons,Well IF they thought it was a BAD IDEA they probably would not have done it!

    IF mankind manages to survive how wll they see US when they look back 500+ years?

    People do stupid things on purpose it takes a lot of work and effort but they don't think it is STUPID so they do what they do and don't ask WHY because IF they do or did --- the people around them will believe they are STUPID!

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    People SELDOM look for TRUTH! What they look for is CONFERMATION that what they have chosen to believe IS TRUTH! This is why people will believe almost ANY THING and also WHY the WORLD is SO MESSED UP!

    IT is never realy OVER -- things just CHANGE!

    You can QUOTE me on ALL! It IS what I believe to be TRUE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOLD DUCK View Post
    QWAK,After pondering on this subject it occures to me that we all percieve our world/reality threw glasses with lenses that are distorted and ground by the people and cultures around us so that virtualy ANY thing is posable and socialy acceptable and the actions taken go unquestioned or even resisted because they beacme the accepted NORM!

    When we try to judge and evaluate the actions of other cultures and in other times in history --- we can only use our own accepted conventional norms which them selves are also distorted views and not OBJECTIVELY detached from the percieved situation.

    I am thinking it has always been a CARTOON REALITY it was for the Romans with gladiators and crusifictions just as it was for the Myans and human sacrifices or even today with using economic/debt slavery and wars to reduce and controll populations.

    Nothing has actualy changed other than PERSPECTIVE --- all the basic eliments of the equasion remain the same and diferent SOLUTIONS are all a mix of right and wrong factors that maintain an unstable equalibrium that is temporary and potentialy explocive in social inviroments.

    ZOMBIES don't know or think or see them selves as ZOMBIES -- in there reality they are being and doing what seems NORMAL to them and all the others around them.

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    QWAK, I'll buy that for a dollar! I don't think that anyone can make statements about another culture with absolute objectivity. Being human, it just can't be done.
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