Gold Standard Silver 10 oz Bar

[Silver Plus]

Hi all
I am new to this forum and I am finding a lot of good information. I have been a silver stacker for some time now. I have bar that I have been curious about and have found no definative answers. I was wondering if anyone here has any knowledge of this bar.
Thank you.
ED
Edit: I am not familiar with posting pictures here, but now I am. Sorry

[Gcubed]

Drill out a few grams and send the cuttings to an assayer.

Edit: Now that I see the picture, it looks legit.

[Silver Plus]

Hi Gcubed,
That wasn't the exact one I have. This is the one I have. I just need to know a bit of it's history and value.
Thank you for your quick reply.
ED

[Gcubed]

Likely made in the 80's. It's worth ten ounces of silver.

[Chester-Copperpot]

Nice looking bar.

[Silver Plus]

Likely made in the 80's. It's worth ten ounces of silver.

Thank you again Gcubed!
ED

[Gcubed]

Hi Gcubed,
That wasn't the exact one I have. This is the one I have. I just need to know a bit of it's history and value.
Thank you for your quick reply.
ED

That looks fake. The "serial number" is die struck, not stamped in.

[Silver Plus]

Nice looking bar.

Thank you for your reply Chester-Copperpot!

ED

[Shiny]

Presumed to have been produced by Engelhard. They are the same size and shape as the straight-edged bars Engelhard produced - note that the stamped characters and the eight-sided shape also matches the Engelhard bars.

Note also the info on the page at http://about.ag/Engelhard-10oz.htm

[rte]

In fact there is a newer style listed on apmex
10 oz Engelhard Silver Bar (Gold Standard) .999 Fine

http://www.apmex.com/Product/71674/1..._999_Fine.aspx

[Silver Plus]

That looks fake. The "serial number" is die struck, not stamped in.

I know it doesn't look like it, but the serial number is stamped into the bar.
Thank you
ED

[Gcubed]

I know it doesn't look like it, but the serial number is stamped into the bar.
Thank you
ED

Whatever you say. I wouldn't buy it based on that picture.

[Silver Plus]

Presumed to have been produced by Engelhard. They are the same size and shape as the straight-edged bars Engelhard produced - note that the stamped characters and the eight-sided shape also matches the Engelhard bars.

Note also the info on the page at http://about.ag/Engelhard-10oz.htm

Thank you for your reply. It does look like mine. I have seen that particular bar on the net. I have searched eBay over the years and I have only seen three up for bids and one of them was mine.The latest two were out of the range I wanted to pay. Of course I only paid $188.00 for mine back then.
Thank you.
ED

[Silver Plus]

Whatever you say. I wouldn't buy it based on that picture.

Now I understand your signature line.
Thank you.
ED

[Chester-Copperpot]

He might be a grouchy fecker ... But he knows his PMs.

[southfork]

both JM and engelhard produced bars for other firms over they years, some had the engelhard and jm logo and many did not, this is one that did not, it is a legtimate bar.

[Silver Plus]

both JM and engelhard produced bars for other firms over they years, some had the engelhard and jm logo and many did not, this is one that did not, it is a legtimate bar.

Thank you for your reply. I think it was made for by the now defunct Gold Standard Corporation, but I'm not sure.
ED

[Mr. Shiny]

Thank you for your reply. I think it was made for by the now defunct Gold Standard Corporation, but I'm not sure.
ED

Yes.
And the Gold Standard Corporation was the Liberty Dollar of it's day.
It's founder was as crazy as Bernie von Nuthouse in more ways than one.
Methinks ol' BvN simply rewrote the GSC saga taking it to that next step.....straight to prison.

[Mr. Shiny]

That looks fake. The "serial number" is die struck, not stamped in.

G³ it does doesn't it, but that is just an optical rectusion, the highlights and shadows play tricks on old eyes.

[Gcubed]

G³ it does doesn't it, but that is just an optical rectusion, the highlights and shadows play tricks on old eyes.

I agree Shiny. I've peered at that damn pic MANY times now. Gettin' old is a bitch.

[HistoryStudent]

That looks fake. The "serial number" is die struck, not stamped in.

You are pretty sharp for an old curmudgeon.

I was very impressed. Not that it really matters a hill of beans.

But that was VERY astute.

[Silver Plus]

Gcubed
I'm glad to see someone else has tired old eyes. Between staring at the computer all day and trying to read dates on coins, my best days are clearly over. Have you changed your thoughts on my silver bar?
Seasons greetings to all!
ED

[andial]

The numbers and type look stamped in to my young eyes.

[Silver Plus]

andial,
It is as you say. This one's for you.
ED

[Gcubed]

Gcubed
I'm glad to see someone else has tired old eyes. Between staring at the computer all day and trying to read dates on coins, my best days are clearly over. Have you changed your thoughts on my silver bar?
Seasons greetings to all!
ED

I'll take your word that it is what it is. That picture still looks like a fake (to me). Every other photo on the thread appears to depict the real thing (to me).

[Silver Plus]

That is the problem with a scanner, especially a cheap one. They have a problem with depth perception.
ED

[southfork]

Here's a picture of the one ounce gold standard bar by by engelhard.


http://about.ag/Engelhard-1oz.htm

[pay dirt]

I'll take your word that it is what it is. That picture still looks like a fake (to me). Every other photo on the thread appears to depict the real thing (to me).

Would it not be easier for someone to stamp a fake serial number than an entire die? Personally would test it before buying it though.

[Silver Plus]

Yes.
And the Gold Standard Corporation was the Liberty Dollar of it's day.
It's founder was as crazy as Bernie von Nuthouse in more ways than one.
Methinks ol' BvN simply rewrote the GSC saga taking it to that next step.....straight to prison.

Thank you Mr. Shiney for your reply.
ED