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    So these are the types of educators running the asylum. Sad these unions protect perverts at all costs.


    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/12...aping-student/


    Union seeks severance for teacher convicted of raping student

    Published December 12, 2013 /
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    A teacher’s union in Michigan is fighting to get a $10,000 severance package for a convicted child molester whose case that drew outrage earlier this year when his former school colleagues pleaded with a judge to sentence him lightly.

    Neal Erickson, 38, pleaded guilty in May to raping a young boy over the course of three years — from 2006 to 2009 — and was sentenced to 15-30 years in prison. The prison term came over the pleas of seven of Erickson's former fellow teachers at Rose City Middle School, including Sally Campbell, who said in a letter to the judge that “Neal made a mistake. He allowed a mutual friendship to develop into much more."

    Circuit Court Judge Michael Baumgartner, saying he was "appalled and ashamed that the community could rally around" Erickson, sentenced him to the lengthy prison term, but FoxNews.com reported earlier this year that parents were furious. The decision by the Michigan Education Association to seek severance pay, reported first by EAGNews.org, is the latest example of teachers rallying around Erickson.

    It’s completely ludicrous,” the boy’s father, John Janczewski, told EAGNews. “Are they nuts in the head? How can the union file a grievance and back a child molester? We’re very upset about it.”


    The union has acknowledged taking Erickson’s case to arbitration on behalf of the disgraced educator, but declined to elaborate.

    “We don’t make a practice of discussing any case,” MEA’s Ron Parkinson told the website. “It’s based on contractual compliance and that’s really all I can say. We filed for arbitration [Friday].”

    Janczewski said he’s now committed to do whatever he can to stop the delivery of the severance package, money that he claims should instead be destined for his son.

    “We as a family in no way is going to let this happen,” he said. “I mean, a child molester paid to molest a student? He doesn’t deserve it. I don’t think the union wants the publicity we’ll bring on this.”

    In September, FoxNews.com reported that enrollment in the West Branch-Rose City School District was unofficially down 87 percent following a tumultuous summer in which angry parents blasted teachers for writing letters in support of Erickson. When the school board declined to take action against the teachers, many parents vowed to pull their kids out of the public schools, which have a total enrollment of roughly 2,000 students.

    “I can’t speculate as to why the students have left, but there were certainly parents who vocalized that they were pulling their children out of school because of the teacher’s support,” West Branch-Rose City School Superintendent Daniel Cwayna told FoxNews.com in September. “We addressed the issue as best we could without infringing upon the teacher’s first amendment rights. There’s only so much we can do.”
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    Sure, I'd give him severance, his head from his body, with an axe.
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    Default Re: Union seeks severance for teacher convicted of raping student

    sounds like time for a broom handle.

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    [QUOTE=Meetzos;650791]So these are the types of educators running the asylum. Sad these unions protect perverts at all costs. QUOTE]

    those teacher unions are only in the communist states -

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    So these are the types of educators running the asylum. Sad these unions protect perverts at all costs. QUOTE]

    those teacher unions are only in the communist states -

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    Right to work = right to lower wages

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    Sure, I'd give him severance, his head from his body, with an axe.

    I'm old-fashioned, I prefer the guillotine.
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    Right to work = right to lower wages
    right to work = right to prove to potential employers than you are worth more than you are currently being paid by your current employer.
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    Right to work = right to lower wages
    and right to lower costs/prices why pay double for the same teacher?
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    Default Re: Union seeks severance for teacher convicted of raping student

    Nothing to worry about. When Bubba in prison, gets done with this former teacher, justice will be served.
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    But today, the government kills and takes our property.

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    Default Re: Union seeks severance for teacher convicted of raping student

    WV is forced union for sure, ask some of the locals who offered to be flaggers for $10 an hour. The union flaggers (out-of-staters) were making $30 an hour. Nothing like get laughed at.

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    Default Re: Union seeks severance for teacher convicted of raping student

    For those of you unfamiliar with law, if the union does not represent the piece of crap, the union could well be sued instead. If the school district does the paper work correctly, the piece of crap should get nothing. Castration with rusty knife is in order...
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    Quote Originally Posted by latemetal View Post
    For those of you unfamiliar with law, if the union does not represent the piece of crap, the union could well be sued instead. If the school district does the paper work correctly, the piece of crap should get nothing. Castration with rusty knife is in order...
    Legal to protect oneself except this from his co workers kind of makes one wonder as to the others in that system.

    The prison term came over the pleas of seven of Erickson's former fellow teachers at Rose City Middle School, including Sally Campbell, who said in a letter to the judge that “Neal made a mistake. He allowed a mutual friendship to develop into much more."
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    and right to lower costs/prices why pay double for the same teacher?
    why work for half wages

    you see it depends on which side of the coin you are on

    you seem to like to have everyone except for yourself to work for less then the problems of the economy would be solved

    but the truth is its the banksters who have caused the problems with the economy not teachers

    its easy to sit back and say they don't do enough to warrant their wage , because their job is way easier than mine

    but If we had payed them nothing at all , we would still be in this mess, their wage is many many magnitudes less than what the

    banksters steal to the point of being statistically insignificant in the problems of the economy

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    why work for half wages

    you see it depends on which side of the coin you are on

    you seem to like to have everyone except for yourself to work for less then the problems of the economy would be solved

    but the truth is its the banksters who have caused the problems with the economy not teachers

    its easy to sit back and say they don't do enough to warrant their wage , because their job is way easier than mine

    but If we had payed them nothing at all , we would still be in this mess, their wage is many many magnitudes less than what the

    banksters steal to the point of being statistically insignificant in the problems of the economy
    Stop paying union dues and ya get a nice raise right off the get go.
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    Stop paying union dues and ya get a nice raise right off the get go.
    a little cognoscente disconnect there

    dues are not that high less than 1.5% of my wage ( tax deductible)

    but I could work non union for 33% less , ya that makes sense, get rid of the nasty union and their dues

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    So these are the types of educators running the asylum. Sad these unions protect perverts at all costs. QUOTE]

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    Sure do notice a correlation! The non union, right to work states are the poorest, least educated of any in the Union. They're havens for toxic dumping, bad wages, low skilled jobs, abysmal student achievement. With the case of Alabama, they had a whole county go bankrupt, and they don't have collective bargaining for public employees, the sine qua non of unions. Thanks for the graphic....

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    Sure do notice a correlation! The non union, right to work states are the poorest, least educated of any in the Union. They're havens for toxic dumping, bad wages, low skilled jobs, abysmal student achievement. With the case of Alabama, they had a whole county go bankrupt, and they don't have collective bargaining for public employees, the sine qua non of unions. Thanks for the graphic....


    Lets see I believe Detroit is.... was one of the most heavily unionized cities. Isn't that in Michagan? Camden NJ another in the blue column and lets not forget Illinois swerling around the bowl. Oh and one large city in Ca. in the dumper.
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    a little cognoscente disconnect there

    dues are not that high less than 1.5% of my wage ( tax deductible)

    but I could work non union for 33% less , ya that makes sense, get rid of the nasty union and their dues
    don't look...but your dues might be used to support the globalist scum (if your union is of any size)

    I too am in a union -- one of the largest in the US. they have no gag reflex....global warming, welfare orgy, destruction of merit in favor or race-based hiring, illegal alien amnesty, etc -- basically they push everything that comes out of obomba/Pelosi/hellary/gore's mouth
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    Lets see I believe Detroit is.... was one of the most heavily unionized cities. Isn't that in Michagan? Camden NJ another in the blue column and lets not forget Illinois swerling around the bowl. Oh and one large city in Ca. in the dumper.
    the slow motion train-wreck is not to be spoken of -
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    Sure do notice a correlation! The non union, right to work states are the poorest, least educated of any in the Union. They're havens for toxic dumping, bad wages, low skilled jobs, abysmal student achievement. With the case of Alabama, they had a whole county go bankrupt, and they don't have collective bargaining for public employees, the sine qua non of unions. Thanks for the graphic....
    surely you're not claiming that unions are the reason for your above claims
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meetzos View Post
    Lets see I believe Detroit is.... was one of the most heavily unionized cities. Isn't that in Michagan? Camden NJ another in the blue column and lets not forget Illinois swerling around the bowl. Oh and one large city in Ca. in the dumper.
    So, you seem to be onto something there, Sparky. That being, unions really aren't the problem. States that have no unions are the poorest in the nation, states that have unions are in terrible shape. That should lead you to think a little bit more profoundly, and that is, UNIONS AREN'T THE PROBLEM!!!!

    What the hell is wrong with you people? How many times are going to make this same stupid mistake, and say the same stupid things? Union membership is lower than what it was in 1912. About 7% of all private workers are unionized, 5% of public employees are rank and file. Whole swaths of the economy have no unions, e.g., financial services. It's apparent that many of yass have no idea what it is you're posting...

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    surely you're not claiming that unions are the reason for your above claims
    Surely, you have no idea what it is you're posting. See my earlier post….

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    Surely, you have no idea what it is you're posting. See my earlier post….
    this idiotic claim needs no explanation, let's enjoy it again without further comment:

    "Sure do notice a correlation! The non union, right to work states are the poorest, least educated of any in the Union. They're havens for toxic dumping, bad wages, low skilled jobs, abysmal student achievement. With the case of Alabama, they had a whole county go bankrupt, and they don't have collective bargaining for public employees, the sine qua non of unions. Thanks for the graphic...."
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    Quote Originally Posted by illatease View Post
    So, you seem to be onto something there, Sparky. That being, unions really aren't the problem. States that have no unions are the poorest in the nation, states that have unions are in terrible shape. That should lead you to think a little bit more profoundly, and that is, UNIONS AREN'T THE PROBLEM!!!!

    What the hell is wrong with you people? How many times are going to make this same stupid mistake, and say the same stupid things? Union membership is lower than what it was in 1912. About 7% of all private workers are unionized, 5% of public employees are rank and file. Whole swaths of the economy have no unions, e.g., financial services. It's apparent that many of yass have no idea what it is you're posting...
    Yea I'm on to something chief all these states and cities with the big union problems are goverment employees unionized, and they are pushing for the grandoise pensions no body can afford.
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    Quote Originally Posted by illatease View Post
    So, you seem to be onto something there, Sparky. That being, unions really aren't the problem. States that have no unions are the poorest in the nation, states that have unions are in terrible shape. That should lead you to think a little bit more profoundly, and that is, UNIONS AREN'T THE PROBLEM!!!!

    What the hell is wrong with you people? How many times are going to make this same stupid mistake, and say the same stupid things? Union membership is lower than what it was in 1912. About 7% of all private workers are unionized, 5% of public employees are rank and file. Whole swaths of the economy have no unions, e.g., financial services. It's apparent that many of yass have no idea what it is you're posting...
    what he said

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    Sure do notice a correlation! The non union, right to work states are the poorest, least educated of any in the Union. They're havens for toxic dumping, bad wages, low skilled jobs, abysmal student achievement. With the case of Alabama, they had a whole county go bankrupt, and they don't have collective bargaining for public employees, the sine qua non of unions. Thanks for the graphic....
    those communist states are also overrepresented in the homosexual realm

    perhaps if the capitalist states would smoke more pole?

    same dumbf-ck logic
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    those communist states are also overrepresented in the homosexual realm

    perhaps if the capitalist states would smoke more pole?

    same dumbf-ck logic
    what are you trying to say

    cant make much sense out of this

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    what are you trying to say

    cant make much sense out of this
    making fun of dumbazz's correlation/causation handicap

    i should be ashamed....
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    Default Re: Union seeks severance for teacher convicted of raping student

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    Quote Originally Posted by illatease View Post

    this idiotic claim needs no explanation, let's enjoy it again without further comment:

    "Sure do notice a correlation! The non union, right to work states are the poorest, least educated of any in the Union. They're havens for toxic dumping, bad wages, low skilled jobs, abysmal student achievement. With the case of Alabama, they had a whole county go bankrupt, and they don't have collective bargaining for public employees, the sine qua non of unions. Thanks for the graphic...."
    You lose....and it's apparent you haven't a clue what a smart explanation would be...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meetzos View Post
    Yea I'm on to something chief all these states and cities with the big union problems are goverment employees unionized, and they are pushing for the grandoise pensions no body can afford.
    You have NO idea what you're posting. Detroit's average pension for its nonuniform employees is $19,000/year, for LEO's/fire, its $30,000. That's hardly grandiose. For some other cities, there are much worse pension obligations, but if you think that the amount that Detroit is paying for its former employees is too much, you have not a clue....

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    Default Re: Union seeks severance for teacher convicted of raping student

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    making fun of dumbazz's correlation/causation handicap

    i should be ashamed....
    You should be ashamed for being shown up as not knowing much of anything....

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