Silver

[Goldies]

You guys are getting mad at me for calling the drops? It seems I'm the only one at Gim that can do it. Have a great day, mates.

[Gcubed]

I dont think I had 1300 posts in several years over at the previous GIM site.

Hey, The guy pays cash for real estate. He must be doing something right?

[Curtman]

Silver Elder? What a friggin joke. Over 1300 messages, nearly all negative on gold or silver. His message is sell sell sell. A paid shill, if there ever was one. Goldies has turned this forum into a sewer. Newbies don't stand a chance. If you listen to his advice, get ready to lose some big money. Goldies is batting zero with his PM forecasts, but he is batting a 1000 always after the fact. What a joke. What a friggin joke!

AWD

You Know, I like the way you think. You would make a great tech the way you observe data.

[Curtman]

I dont think I had 1300 posts in several years over at the previous GIM site.

Thats because he was banned before he got this far. Boy those were the days. Now he is three incarnates on here at once.

[Goldies]

Curtman, banning people because they call for drops in the price is not the answer to your riches.. You are obviously trapped in the metal itself or are a hoarder and are incapable of selling.

[Strawboss]

I nominate myself to be the counterbalance to Goldies views that silver is tanking and you should have sold while you could...(just in case there is anyone out there that is actually taking him seriously).

Silver is not "tanking". This is how silver moves. Violently. Up and down. We have seen silver move upwards $1 in a single day, we have seen it move down $1 in a single day. We have seen it spike up, we have seen it crash down. That is the nature of silver.

A trademark of silver is that in a bull market (that means a market where the price is progressively moving higher over time), the corrections are short, violent and will rip your throat out if you let it. This is precisely why you dont want to use margin in silver.

If this type of price action bothers you - perhaps you should consider investing/trading in a market that is more suited to your personal preferences.

What you saw yesterday is the nature of silver. Because of its dual nature (money and industrial commodity), it sometimes cant seem to make up its mind which it will act like (will it follow gold because its acting like a currency, or will it follow the markets because its acting like a commodity)?

Goldies - I would appreciate if you can constrain your posts on this thread to thought/analysis that are silver related. I am perfectly ok with you posting charts, giving your opinion of what you think is going to happen and why, etc... but, please dont post anything above and beyond that if it is not directly/indirectly related to the silver markets in some fashion. I would prefer for this thread to be kept relevant to all things silver with input from various members so that we can all be further educated and share from each others insights and experiences.

[Goldies]

Strawboss, i probably won't post on your topic since none of the charting here interest me much. I noticed reply #95 is what you will see in these kinds of topics.
If you were serious about Silver charting you would predict drops as well as rises. If I predict a rise, it will crash. My only option is predicting down.. I'm more of a buyer thats why I say down, down , and down.
Nobody understands me? BS.

[grooveboi]

Strawboss, i probably won't post on your topic since none of the charting here interest me much. I noticed reply #95 is what you will see in these kinds of topics.
If you were serious about Silver charting you would predict drops as well as rises. If I predict a rise, it will crash. My only option is predicting down.. I'm more of a buyer thats why I say down, down , and down.
Nobody understands me? BS.

I don't think you're getting flack because of you bearish posts; in fact I remember your old posts on GIM and seem to see an individual who got burned badly in the PM market more than twice and simply plays devil's advocate and pessimistic in order to avoid another surprise to the downside. No problems there. But you are getting some adverse reactions for another reason ... and I ask this seriously, ... Do you ever sleep??

Groove

[Strawboss]

Goldies, Buy/Sell signals depend upon the timeframe within which you are trading. I believe we are in wave 5 of 1 of MAJOR THREE and that there is more upside to come in this move. If I believe that, why would I sell? If I am proven wrong on that - that is another discussion. When I look at a daily chart for silver, I dont see the argument for selling...

Strawboss, i probably won't post on your topic since none of the charting here interest me much. I noticed reply #95 is what you will see in these kinds of topics.
If you were serious about Silver charting you would predict drops as well as rises. If I predict a rise, it will crash. My only option is predicting down.. I'm more of a buyer thats why I say down, down , and down.
Nobody understands me? BS.

[DHAWK]

Boss, this is what I see...
I think this little correction will be real quick.
JMHO.

[4dabopper]

""Goldies - I would appreciate if you can constrain your posts on this thread to thought/analysis that are silver related. ""

""Strawboss, i probably won't post on your topic since none of the charting here interest me much. ""

""I don't think you're getting flack because of you bearish posts;""

Goldies - Posts Per Day- 40.01


Out of 1585 posts around 50 made sense (hey that's my post total), the other 1535 were just a waste of ban space and readers time. Any one that post 40 times a day/night to this site, well what else need be said. It's gone way past from being "cute" to being obnoxious.

Now where the hell is that ignore button??!!

Enough said

[Curtman]

The guy is here to drive members away and get them to another site. There is a silly ass vendetta going on and he and his two incarnates are just tools. He has some serious multiple personality issues and should be in a straight jacket in an asylum. Besides being a menace to society he is a damn moron.

And I agree with Hawks take a few post back in the chart. Good work on the charts bossman

[Gcubed]

Why should I care if any of you get burned buying Precious Metals? You are big boys. Do you shed one tear for my losses? The thing to remember is don't pump Silver. If you bash it , it will rise. You guys pump, so it drops.
Show me one post where someone who run a topic like this warn of a coming drop.

[4dabopper]

long term investing.


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Any one that has bought and held long term has not done badly. And doing nothing else, but buying, holding and just waiting.

""The thing to remember is don't pump Silver. If you bash it , it will rise. You guys pump, so it drops.""

[Hystckndle]

""Goldies - I would appreciate if you can constrain your posts on this thread to thought/analysis that are silver related. ""
""Strawboss, i probably won't post on your topic since none of the charting here interest me much. ""
""I don't think you're getting flack because of you bearish posts;""
Goldies - Posts Per Day- 40.01
Out of 1585 posts around 50 made sense (hey that's my post total), the other 1535 were just a waste of ban space and readers time. Any one that post 40 times a day/night to this site, well what else need be said. It's gone way past from being "cute" to being obnoxious.
Now where the hell is that ignore button??!!
Enough said

Bopmeister,
MOP is as follows:
Go to members list at top of page.
Go to members' page.
Select " Add member to ignore list "
My words might be mixed up.
But it works.

@ Goldies,
You have already been warned about spamming threads.
If someone asks you to not post on their thread,
( Hint Hint )
I would think you would heed their request.

Regards to all,
Haystackneedle

[GoldWampum]

What I have been pondering is the Monthly Silver chart. Be assured that my mind operates on a much less extravagant scale than some of the hunnert post a day gurus on the board, but give me some thoughts in return if you like.



Notice we are in the same channel we were in 2 years ago with Silver. At that time it had reached a peak and took a long leg down. Remember it had been goin up for a pretty good stretch. 2 years later we have gotten back to that channel.

Notice where the current price is... smack dab in the middle of that channel. Also notice this is a major pennant in the bull run of this decade. While I would not be surprised to see it channel there for a couple 3 months, I think late summer to early fall we are primed to first challenge the 21, then no surprise here if we hit 25 before the year is out.

The monthly: This is why I've said possible sub-17 before 21 again.



Just some simple thoughts from a simple mind.

Man this crap takes forever don't it?

[Curtman]

Godlwampum, I think 16.68 is also the critical area, if it fails there it is going deep. I do not think that will happen though because of the China and GS Put. Once gold stops silver does also and it is about there. Thats said the GS and JPmorgan piled on more shorts today but that was to try and beat it down and it is not have the effect on the shares. Remember the days when the share lead the way up? We seem to be entering that cycle again. HUI XAU charts are worth of a look.

[GoldWampum]

Godlwampum, I think 16.68 is also the critical area, if it fails there it is going deep. I do not think that will happen though because of the China and GS Put. Once gold stops silver does also and it is about there. Thats said the GS and JPmorgan piled on more shorts today but that was to try and beat it down and it is not have the effect on the shares. Remember the days when the share lead the way up? We seem to be entering that cycle again. HUI XAU charts are worth of a look.

Pretty much the way I see it too Curt. Thanks for adding a few fundie facts.

[Master_Ho]

""Goldies - I would appreciate if you can constrain your posts on this thread to thought/analysis that are silver related. ""

""Strawboss, i probably won't post on your topic since none of the charting here interest me much. ""

""I don't think you're getting flack because of you bearish posts;""

Goldies - Posts Per Day- 40.01


Out of 1585 posts around 50 made sense (hey that's my post total), the other 1535 were just a waste of ban space and readers time. Any one that post 40 times a day/night to this site, well what else need be said. It's gone way past from being "cute" to being obnoxious.

Now where the hell is that ignore button??!!

Enough said

If one puts him on ignore - he will have less posts - he'll have nothing to respond to..........

[Curtman]

If one puts him on ignore - he will have less posts - he'll have nothing to respond to..........

Howdy Ho, Thing is a person should nat have to do so. Everybody who has addressed it has been polite. At least till their request was met with stalking trolling post. Guy needs to go back to Kitco or Romper Room anywhere. Hes sticks out like 1970's Hollywood Pimp in the Vatican. Big Feather and all.

[Strawboss]

Hes sticks out like 1970's Hollywood Pimp in the Vatican. Big Feather and all.

.......................

[Strawboss]

Here is the link to this weeks The Silver Mining Report http://bullion-master.com/the-silver...ort-5_5.10.pdf

Overall, considering the move in silver - many of the stocks are looking pretty good. That reinforces my view of where we are, i.e. wave 5 of 1 of MAJOR THREE.

Steve

[Master_Ho]

Howdy Ho, Thing is a person should nat have to do so. Everybody who has addressed it has been polite. At least till their request was met with stalking trolling post. Guy needs to go back to Kitco or Romper Room anywhere. Hes sticks out like 1970's Hollywood Pimp in the Vatican. Big Feather and all.

I know - but this is about him flooding the place with posts for attention........

And, further, it actually undermines the GIM community because of the number of threads all turned to........to be kind - the babbling of one person who, fancies themself a provocateur........

I am sure they will have to look it up, so - "one who tries to provoke or excite....like a bad shock-rock DJ".

I truly believe everyone has the right to speak..........

Not necessarily listened to but the right to speak.........in America - right or wrong - every moron has the right to yell "Theater" at a crowded fire!

I truly dislike censorship......

But we also have the right to turn the noise off for ourselves - to be able to follow those who speak with wisdom on this thread. I have been forced to do just that and it does help a lot.........

Unfortunately, however, a lot of people do not have my patience and the posts, and threads, are slowly down - too much nonsense for most to bother with, IMO. Newbies will look in and back out at a time when GIM needs to rebuild.....or it will fade away..........

I really like this place - I hope it doesn't fade away..........

But where I generally followed 15-20 threads at a time for years - I appear to be down to 4.

FOR SOME - ATTENTION - EVEN NEGATIVE ATTENTION, IS STILL ATTENTION..........

"Just say no-thing!"

Didn't mean to type all that - but there it is.........



And finally - Great to see you here.......haven't seen you post in some time - hope all is well!

Cheers!

[Curtman]

Thanks Master HO.
Yea when every post I make draws in the troll it makes me not want to post anymore.

Say Strawboss, Did you exit your Australian positions?

[skyvike]

So did he just take his ball and go home or what?

I see a bunch of posts deleted.

[Curtman]

Well he has friends even if they are imaginary ones. I think he is trying to fan the farts with the blankets. The thread was nearly destroyed by the bonehead remarks off topic and at that point I figured what the hell, address the problem. This is a great thread and will be a long standing one as time goes by as long as the replies jibe with the topic.

[Strawboss]

Silver is looking very good at the moment technically. We have a setup that could result in a nice run.

[Strawboss]

Here is a fantastic article you would be wise to read.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defau...port%205.4.pdf

[Strawboss]

Silver has backtested the breakout of downtrend resistance and is now climbing off of that test.

It is looking very positive right now.

[DHAWK]

BOSS,
Whats up with TRGD, suspended till May 20?

[Strawboss]

BOSS,
Whats up with TRGD, suspended till May 20?

Here is the best explanation I have come across.

Imo, what happened today was nothing but a last ditch attack by the shorts in collusion with the SEC. Now you can believe whatever the hell you want, and I don't much care what you believe as that is your business, not mine. However, I intend to tell it like I see it which is the best I can do. That happens to be more than many other trgd/tarm posters are doing whom I would label as paid bashers and hired hit men and even worse than that are the longs who post disinfo for various reasons, and I will simply call them retards.

There are 20,000 other pink sheet stocks. None of them file financials, and everyone knows there is no requirement to file reports on the pink sheets. In addition , there was no forewarning despite what the document says. So this was a targeted attack for specific fraudulent reasons, imo, and the same was done to pzg two years ago for the same reasons...to help the shorts cover their shorts... plain and simple. The shorts are basically the bank and brokerage houses which own the SEC. The regulatory agencies are owned by the companies they supposedly regulate. These agencies were created for no other reason than that. It's called living in the matrix. You can either believe neo or agent smith...your choice.

I will just say that trgd was attacked today in order for the shorts to get it delisted from the pinks to the greys in 10 days. On the greys, the MMs can do whatever the hell they want, whenever the hell they want. That means there is no trustworthy bid or ask. IF you put in a market order, the MMs will ream you up the butt. If you put in a limit order, it may or may not get filled, and there is no accountability for that whatsoever to anybody. However, You can call your broker and ask them to call the MMs for a bid or ask before you put in your limit order, but still you may or may not get a fill at that bid or ask. This scam will allow the MM shorts to cover those shorts at a lower price than now because they will be making the only u.s. market on their terms. Of course, no one is forced to sell any of their shares, and no doubt trgd will be trading at new highs shortly after the sec lifts the suspension. However that could be months away according to my reading of the sec document which gives them up to 4 months before they MUST make an initial decision. Of course, the decision COULD come sooner than 4 months. However, in the meantime, any desperate sellers will be forced to sell on MM mafia terms.
On the positive side is the fact that the true balance sheet trgd/tarm ratio is still .4, so the wisest of the tarm shareholders will see this as an opportunity to exchange their tarm shares for trgd shares at firesale prices. That buying and mm shortcovering will limit the trgd downside.
Another positive for trgd and tarm is that news releases will still be forthcoming on this matter and all other relevant matters which will confirm the true value of both companies. In addition, trgd is still trading in frankfurt germany during this time. If tarm is receiving revenue, then fundamentally everything is fine and will be fine .

An analysis from April

The key to understanding this stock is that, unless we know otherwise, we can assume that the money continues to flow each month at the Don Roman mine. It should be well over $1 million per month after expenses.

President Rich Biscan is truly great at leveraging any such money into great value. He does not dilute Tara Gold (TRGD) in his attempts to create wealth.

The money is flowing into Tara Minerals, but a share of Tara Gold is worth 40% of the value of a share of Tara Minerals, just for its ownership in Tara Minerals. This is still true after the recent 10-K report by TARM.

But usually it's value is 40% to 50% behind what it should be relative to TARM. Right now, to be specific, (TARM ask $2.20, TRGD ask $.60) it needs to rise 47% to catch up to the value of its TARM holdings. It is non-reporting and that affects the price, but the trustworthy president assured me several weeks ago that the number of shares outstanding has not changed. It is about 103 million with no debt, and with no warrants or options outstanding.

Further the financials for Tara Gold are being worked on and, though we do not know when they will be completed, this discount of TRGD to TARM will likely disappear when they are completed within the next months. Getting Tara Minerals at a discount will no longer be possible.

This is to say nothing about the great value that is in the excellent properties of TARM and that will be proven up through NI43-101 studies and the conservative values determined from sampling will probsbly rise and be known to the world. San Felipe will go online nearly doubling the cash flow. Its subidiary Adit will go public. Check out the projected values on JNG85's spreadsheet.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?k...8fjlwUPg&gid=6

Right now the president thinks TARM should be at $4.00. That would put TRGD at $1.60, 267% of its present value. More multiples of the present $.60 should be in this stock's future.

A wise person will see this incredible opportunity and invest in their future through TRGD with it precious metals. Others who seek to preserve their savings will see their dollars erode and wonder what they could have done to avoid that.

Here are my thoughts. Tara Gold owns 80% of Tara Minerals, which owns 100% of Adit Resources with owns the San Roman mine which is producing. Because Tara Gold hasnt filed their financials in years, the stock trades at a significant discount to the asset value of JUST Tara Minerals - not to mention their other projects. The guy running Adit was recruited from Yamana - Robert Wheatley - he was with Yamana for 20 years and was their main guy in the Americas. He knows Mexico as good as anyone.

Tara Gold as 103 million shares outstanding with ZERO debt, no warrants, options, derivatives - NOTHING. Their business model is organic growth. Get a mine producing, generate cash flow and fund expansion through "lowest hanging fruit". It is a business model that Jim Sinclair endorses and has verbally supported.

I cant tell you what is going to happen over the next few months. It looks like shenigans to me. But, the company has the goods and it isnt based on a promise.

[4dabopper]

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[FatesWarning]

Straw, this ones for you.


http://www.alaskajournal.com/stories...img4_001.shtml

[dirt to oil]

silver is crap unless you consider the options , stocks , bonds , real estate , frn's , and the like

[anywoundedduck]

silver is crap unless you consider the options , stocks , bonds , real estate , frn's , and the like

Have you got a link?

[dirt to oil]

Have you got a link?

nope just go down to your local coin shop and hope for the best

[prophet]

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How do ya post this chart?

It used to be so easy...cut and paste.....

[4dabopper]

right click with mouse on chart, picture you want to save. click on save image as, click on save and it will be saved into your pictures in My computer documents folders.

Get an account for FREE at photobucket.

Then you upload the picture from your pictures to photobucket and it converts it into 4 different codes, you want the 3rd on the list HTML code, copy it and paste it in your post and everyone will see the picture that is uploaded to photobucket.


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[fromserpo]

An even better chart,over 19$

[Strawboss]

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This may be the most important chart of all. Last time, in 1980 it was this that Sinclair used to determine his exit - i.e. what would the price of gold need to trade at in order to balance the external liabilities of the US government?

There is no rule that says this must be repeated though - but, it is a good guide.

[JohnPA]

Strawboss,
Thank you. How we one use this chart to project exit points? TIA.
JPA

[Strawboss]

JohnPA - If history repeats you will see gold rise to a price that when multiplied by the number of "claimed" ounces held by official US sources would equal the total sum of external debt obligations. It is around that point that you would want to exit. Not so sure that will happen this time. Other potential metrics include the DOW trading 1:1 with the price of gold, or a gold:silver ratio in the teens, or the average house selling for a price equivalent to approx. 100 ounces of gold, etc... All of these are metrics that historically have been achieved - but, I stress that because it has happened previously doesnt mean it will happen this time.

Strawboss,
Thank you. How we one use this chart to project exit points? TIA.
JPA

[Strawboss]

Here is a daily chart of the Gold:Silver ratio. It is looking very bullish for silver currently.

[Strawboss]

Here is a daily view of silver. Its looking very bullish.

[Strawboss]

Here is the link to this weeks The Silver Mining Report courtesy of Bullion Master.

http://bullion-master.com/the-silver...rt-5_12.10.pdf

[StateofJefferson]

Here is the link to this weeks The Silver Mining Report courtesy of Bullion Master.

http://bullion-master.com/the-silver...rt-5_12.10.pdf

Adobe Reader 7.0 cannot open your links. Any thoughts?

[Strawboss]

They are up to version 9.3. Free download - http://get.adobe.com/reader/

Adobe Reader 7.0 cannot open your links. Any thoughts?

[Strawboss]

This is going to be JP Morgan and HSBC...

[Optics]

Looks like AUN is ready to make a run.

[Strawboss]

Looks like AUN is ready to make a run.

I agree - its looking good.