Where do YOU hide your hoard?

[Harvey]

Rather new to the whole physical PM thing, I puzzle over the best place to store my hoard. Where is the best place?

In a safe deposit box? ... under the bed? ... buried in the back yard? ... in a PM repository?

In all seriousness, and without prejudice, where would YOU recommend that I keep 1,000 big, fat, shiny one ounce coins?

[Irons]

The bottom of the deepest lake or reservoir in your area is a pretty safe spot. Yep, don't take your stash for a boat ride as it never ends well.

[AgShaman]

The best places are in your mind. Should you want to have the most piece of mind in your holdings...and perhaps accumulate even more...then spend a decent amount of time thinking about this one.

The ultimate test will be whether or not you can keep quiet about where you stashed your precious. This is rule number one...and without discipline you may regret getting involved with the precious. I'd say it's ok to let your wife in on the secret, but that's as far as it should go...letting anyone else know would be madness IMO.

Heavy bank safes are nice...even nicer if they are hidden amongst junk in the basement and have walls so thick a thief could not just carry it off and get it open at a later time. Smaller safes are ok as well, since they could provide a diversion, and you could stash your coins in nooks and crannies in various locations. False plumbling in the ceiling, behind patched walls, the list really is endless and only limited by your mind. If you're really gonna become a hoarder and accumulate more...consider splitting up the hoard in case you bypass protectionary grade holdings (set amount you don't plan on messing with near term) and purchase enough to venture into investment grade holdings (the stuff you buy that may be used for trading in and out, in order to take profits from price swings). Protectionary holdings does not need easy access, but the portion of your stack you consider trading with should be easier for you to get to. Look at it as fun time...and let your mind wander at the possibilities...and by all means...keep rule number one close to your chest like you were the Last Templar with a great secret. Good luck Harvey.

Curiosity will not kill this Cat!

[elroy]

Virtually any safe can be hauled off regardless of size. A safe must be fastened down or in a concrete floor etc.

I always thought hiding items in either the attic or crawlspace were good places. This is not someplace many thieves would venture.

For really deep storage, a septic system would work.

[Jimmie]

False plumbling in the ceiling...

That is a really cool idea! Never thought of that one before.

[JEKYLL-7]

The best spot is the one you keep to yourself. The best spot is more than one spot. With silver, you have to think a little bit. With gold, the options are as vast as your imagination. Some of my favorites I've heard mentioned are (gold): in the toilet tank. In the sand of the aquarium. Frozen in some sort of stew in the freezer. Taped under furniture. And the best of all (sorry, can't remember who posted it): in the SpongeBob SquarePants lunchbox under the front porch.

[Gcubed]

Anyone asking that question with a straight face should be invested 100% in CD's.

[AgShaman]

.....with possible merit:

Make a purchase of those gold clad "Buffalo" proofs (sales goin' thru the roof!, limit 5 per customer)...you know the ones that advertise later in the evening hoping to catch some geezer unaware in his easy chair....the 31 milligrams "punters" special. Put them in individual plastic...for "effect" and inside a cheesy safe from say Wal-mart or some such place and keep it in your house somewhere....where a thief would look.

It may or may not be a decent plan....but it makes me chuckle to think of thieves leaving the scene early thinking they got the necessary booty...and then trying to unload them later at the LCS or some gold pawn shop....that will hopefully notify the authorities.

Curiosity will not kill this Cat!

[Silvertooth]

^^^I chuckled at "limit 5 per customer"

Common sense: always keep it someplace where you have easy access to it. Because if you dont hold it you dont own it!!

[curmudgeonista]

What do smart burglars do in between jobs? Read Internet forums to find out where people hide their cash & PM's.

I try not to use "recommended" hiding places. When I come up with a hiding place I think is really good I keep it to myself. Sorry! DYODD and FYOHH (find your own hidy-hole).

[Refugee]

What hoard?

[HistoryStudent]

In DEEP DEEP STORAGE like the United States of America's TREASURY department.

So DEEP DEEP that in fact it's in the DEEPEST BOWELS of the Earth waiting for MINER HISTORYSTUDENT to locate it!

Sorry....

But it's hard down there in the COLD DARK eath when the GOVY blew the easy stuff to kill the prices...

[CQC McDuck]

Saturn. The planet, not the car.

[GOLDZILLA]

I put my life savings - consisting of two mercury dimes - in a dusty pair of work boots at the local tweakers trailer down the block. They'll never look there.

[RoadKing]

I haven't washed my briefs for some 6 plus months now. So to be safe, I have my entire Hoard scattered in that drawer, under a layer of these extremely 'nasty' tidies.

Just let someone reach in there to get my stash. Unless they're robbing with a level 5 Hazmat, there's no telling if they'll ever be able to spend a dime of it.....

I'm just sayin,
RK

[ptwopat]

I keep mine underneath "Killer." He sleeps a lot and will take off a perp's hand if disturbed while napping.

Seriously, anyone with enough patience will find your stash . . . if they know it's there. Looking like a bum and pleading poverty will get one further than false plumbing and safe cemented into awkward places.

[Harvey]

Well, to be honest, what I get out of this so far is : screw the safe deposit box.

Never mind.

[horseshoe3]

I think you're on to something there. I'm surprised noone has said that yet. If you don't hold it, you don't own it.

[MISRy]

Well, to be honest, what I get out of this so far is : screw the safe deposit box.

There are times when a safe deposit box is called for. For example, you live in a bad neighborhood and home invasion is a possibility. The best hiding place on the block is moot if they are threatening your baby. Banks note if you are under duress when attempting to access the box.

The best hiding place you have might be buried by a stone fence post on a farm but you can only get there once or twice a year. In that case a SDB might be a good staging point for those items that are to join the stack.

The best hiding place is a lie. Always lie about where it really is. The hardest thing I had to do was to teach the kids to obfuscate. *We* know where it really is, Grandpa knows where it is, other Grandma knows. If we speak of it in front of anyone else we refer to the lake and how deep it is.

[yunowu]

In MANY undisclosed locations...Don't keep your eggs in one basket..

[Meetzos]

Change the question to where "did" I hide my hoard" it was so long ago I forgot. I don't even remember if I had a hoard. What's a hoard? A mind is a terrible thing.

[HistoryStudent]

Love the ICON - MEETZOS - the horse is making FIAT currencies, right...???

[Meetzos]

Love the ICON - MEETZOS - the horse is making FIAT currencies, right...???

How did you guess? His name is El Grande Federales.

[coin finger]

In a plastic baggie in my cats litter box

[skyvike]

Buried in the back yard, right under the compost and manure heaps.

[dacrunch]

many talk of complicated safe boxes...

I favor building "cavities" such as inside a partition wall, plastered back up (for long-term), or you can unscrew & dismount the bathroom medicine cabinet & use the "void" in that partition - only need a screwdriver to get back in... Those spots won't help your survivors if you didn't notify anybody, btw... so somebody should be informed...

Other easy access is an air-conditioning or heating vent, place bag around the 1st corner (but caution if spouse hires the "chimney sweeps"!) Same caution is valid for stashing within an appliance...

[Nickelless]

I posted a blog entry about POSSIBLE hiding places some time ago:

http://survivalprep.net/2010/03/12/w...-then-hide-it/

[AceNZ]

I can't tell you where to hide anything, but I can tell you the first places a thief is likely to look for valuables:

-- Someplace they heard you mention, either directly or indirectly (through a friend or someone who worked at your house, etc)
-- Kitchen cabinets: inside boxes, potentially fake cans, etc
-- Refrig and freezer, including inside containers
-- Master bathroom: in the toilet tank, inside any boxes, including things like tampon boxes
-- Any office areas, esp. desk
-- Under drawers
-- In the back of bookshelves
-- Master bedroom and closet, esp. cabinets near the bed

If a thief knows they're looking for PMs, the task is somewhat simplified for them, because in any quantity, PMs tend to be heavy.

Places they are less likely to look are the ones where you probably wouldn't feel safe leaving something of value laying around: in the kid's bedroom, mixed with kid toys, laying around outside, etc.

Tip: if you're ever buying PMs, never admit to the buyer that you already own anything. If you're selling, that particular sale is everything you own. You are (potentially) your own worst enemy: "loose lips sink ships," as they say.

[MISRy]

In a plastic baggie in my cats litter box

I don't mean to be rude but you have either a small stash or a big cat.

[Ragnarok]

I like Porter Stansberry's approach:

"I worry about my gold being confiscated by the government, so I don't keep it in a bank, and I surely won't keep it at home. I don't want anybody invading my house looking for gold. I put it someplace where I don't live and where the government isn't going to look for it."

2c, R.

[Nickelless]

I like Porter Stansberry's approach:

"I worry about my gold being confiscated by the government, so I don't keep it in a bank, and I surely won't keep it at home. I don't want anybody invading my house looking for gold. I put it someplace where I don't live and where the government isn't going to look for it."

2c, R.

But the point has been brought up before, we've got a $14 trillion debt, we're running a $1.6 trillion budget deficit, what the heck difference is a few hundred billion worth of gold going to matter?

[Ragnarok]

Read the Another/FOA archives at usagold.com and FOFOA's blog and you'll have the answer(s) to that question imo. The world's gold can cover any amount of debt - but not at today's price..

R.

[Treasure Searcher]

While I value marriage, you should take precautions if you are married.

1. If you end up getting kicked out of the house and cannot return (restraining order, etc.), how can you retireve the stash in the home?

2. If your spouse kicks you out, who is to say he/she will not raid your stash and sell it off?

3. If you or your spouse files for a divorce, who is to say you will get your any of your stash in a divorce settlement? (The lawyers will be getting
part of it!!)

I would recommend that you:
1. Not store all of your stash in your home. Store all or a portion in a shed, garage or other place that you can have access to, so you can retirieve it, if your spouse puts you out on the street.
2. Have a trusted relative or friend know the whereabouts of the stash.

Too many divorces happen and a PM collection can get "melted down" during the divorce process.

[Irons]

This whole "having a PM stash, where to keep it" is getting way too stressful for me. I'm going boating!

[Gcubed]

This whole "having a PM stash, where to keep it" is getting way too stressful for me. I'm going boating!

I converted everything into aluminum cans. Damn place smells like a bar at 6:00 AM.

[Irons]

I converted everything into aluminum cans. Damn place smells like a bar at 6:00 AM.

Emptying the cans is the fun part. Building pole barns to hide them in gets tedious., those things take up almost as much space as silver!

[Merlin]

I like Porter Stansberry's approach:

"I worry about my gold being confiscated by the government, so I don't keep it in a bank, and I surely won't keep it at home. I don't want anybody invading my house looking for gold. I put it someplace where I don't live and where the government isn't going to look for it."

2c, R.

I liked his approach myself. Trouble is, it doesn't give you any idea at all about where that might be.

[ToBeSelfEvident]

.....with possible merit:

Make a purchase of those gold clad "Buffalo" proofs (sales goin' thru the roof!, limit 5 per customer)...you know the ones that advertise later in the evening hoping to catch some geezer unaware in his easy chair....the 31 milligrams "punters" special. Put them in individual plastic...for "effect" and inside a cheesy safe from say Wal-mart or some such place and keep it in your house somewhere....where a thief would look.

It may or may not be a decent plan....but it makes me chuckle to think of thieves leaving the scene early thinking they got the necessary booty...and then trying to unload them later at the LCS or some gold pawn shop....that will hopefully notify the authorities.

Curiosity will not kill this Cat!

Yeah, but then the thief might wonder why you went to all the trouble to put in a safe full of fake gold.

[Master_Ho]

IDEAS FOR PROTECTING YOUR INVESTMENT.........>>

Keeping gold in a safe deposit box is just asking for trouble because, the safe deposit box contents became the property of the failed institution. If a bank fails, or the government orders confiscation of gold, you will be allowed to go in and get important papers from your safe deposit box - but no cash or gold.

The Gold Confiscation Act of 1933 empowers the Secret Service with the power to confiscate assets in safety deposit boxes on and offshore. US Treasury Directive 416F expanded these powers. All cash, precious metals and cash equivalents can be confiscated.

A criminal act is not required to trigger these confiscations. The US Treasury only needs a written statement from the Department of Justice that your under investigation for acts that can be considered treasonous or seditious. What does this mean? Any act in violation of Patriot Act I or II. All that's needed is that you criticize the government through an advertisement, engaging in political commentary, or revealing criminal conduct of government (Statute 432 of the National Security Act).

With the expanded version of the Gold Confiscation Act, including gold bullion coins, and anything else of cash-like equivalent, almost anything is fair game. And if those assets are held offshore, then they are vulnerable as well.

Additionally, they are not insured by the bank, or the Feds. It doesn't happen often, but there are always a certain number of law suits pending for recovery of the VALUE of lost contents. People that don't visit their boxes on a regular basis have had them mistakenly drilled, and the contents auctioned off by the state.

BOTTOMLINE - If you are not holding it - you don't own it!

These suggestions are for keeping your gold and silver at home - comlpied from numerous sources. Keep in mind the cops say that the average home burglary only lasts 3 minutes or less. These guys aren't going to crack off outlet panels and stuff, they're going to quickly check your bedroom drawers and closet, grab the silverware and small electronics, and book. If they're pros who know you have PMs, and have set things up so they can take a couple hours to do a detailed search, you're going to have to be a lot more clever, of course.

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The Best Place To Hide Money: Conversation With A Burglar
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(NOTE - Burglars statistically spend 8 minutes or less in a home during a burglary.)

I had quite the interesting conversation this weekend with a person who happened to be a former burglar. It was great timing because I was wondering if something like the skid mark underwear for hiding money would really work. I also figured that if you wanted to know the best place to hide your money from a burglar, a former burglar was the person to ask.

I started off simply and was not surprised by the answer to the question “where is the best place to hide your money?�

“At the bank,� he said with a sly grin

When I rephrased and asked where the best place to hide money and valuables in the house would be if you had such items there, I was taken a bit by surprise by his answer:

“It doesn’t matter how clever you think you are or where you hide it in your house, if I have enough time, I would be able to find where you stash your valuables,� he said bluntly. He then explained that what was much more important than the actual place where you hide your valuables is that you understand a burglar’s motivations. Basically, he has two:

1. To steal your money and valuables
2. To get out of the house as quickly as possible with these goods

When you begin to think of it from this perspective, how you should hide your money changes a bit. Obviously, you don’t want to leave all your money in the places where the burglar will first look: dresser drawers, drawers by phones, desks, closets, a safe (if not bolted down), boxes, jewelry boxes, purse, etc.). That being said, you also don’t want to hide all of your money too well for the following reason:

“If I can’t find money and valuables in the normal places I usually find them, I would continue to tear the house apart until I found something. Remember, the first rule is to to steal money and valuables. We’ll keep looking until we find something.�

Your best strategy, then, is to actually leave some money in obvious places for the burglar to quickly find (the same applies if you keep all your money in the bank). This can not only save your other stash of money, but may actually keep the burglar from destroying your place as he looks for where you have hidden your money. If they believe they may have found the cash that you have in the house, they are much less likely to keep looking (remember, they want to get out asap). In the end, if you hide all your money well, you may win a moral victory in not letting the burglar find the money, but you’ll likely have much more damage done to your place that will end up costing you more in the long run.

The next obvious question was “How much money should you leave for the burglar to find?�

“It depends on the area where you live. If you are in a upscale community and only leave $100, I would assume there is more and keep looking. In a different part of town $100 would convince me I found all the money that was there and leave.�

When it comes to hiding valuables, his suggestion is to mark an envelope in an easily accessible drawer or with files by your computer with “Bank Safe Deposit Box� on the outside and a list of items on the inside. This will tip off the burglar that your most valuable items are stored at the bank and will discourage him from tearing up your house looking for them.

So the question of where is the best places to hide money still hadn’t been answered?

His number one recommendation for money was in toys in a young child’s room. As he explained, young children don’t have money, they have an abundance of toys and most parents don’t trust a child around money. Therefore, parents will rarely hide money there. In addition, when money is hidden, it is usually hidden away neatly and securely — a child’s room is rarely a neat place making it an unlikely place for money to be hidden. Plus with all the stuff in a child’s room, it is not someplace that a burglar can search quickly and get out (rule #2).

If you have a safe, it should be professionally bolted down so it can’t easily be removed.

If you leave some token money for the burglar to find in the places they normally look for money, then anyplace you wouldn’t normally consider a place to hide valuables will usually keep those valuables safe. The underside of trash cans, inside laundry detergent, inside false packaging (but only if the packaging appears real and is in the appropriate place - “When you find a Campbell’s soup can in the bedroom, you have a pretty good idea there is money inside�) were some examples he gave.

And my question of whether the skid mark underwear would be a good place to hide money?

He laughed. “I haven’t heard of that, but I doubt I would have touched something like that had I seen it.�

You also need to be smart about where you hide the money. He related one time a person had left wads of money inside the empty battery areas of electronics around the house. The problem was that although he had not found the hidden money at first, the electronics themselves were worth money and he took those to sell. Only when he got home and was checking that everything worked did he find the hidden cash. The person hid the money well, but not in a good place.

One last tip from a personal finance angle - if you do hide money someplace around the house, make sure that your significant other (or someone close) knows where your hiding place is. If something unfortunate happens to you and nobody knows where your hidden stash is, it’s unlikely that they will be able to find it if a burglar isn’t able to find it. Worse, it could very easily be accidentally thrown away depending on where it is hidden.


OTHER SUGGESTIONS FROM VARIOUS SITES AND SOURCES.................>>

Plant a decoy with not very interesting junk stuff in it and then hide your stash in plain sight, IE: something that blends in so well with the surrounding area it doesn't even register as having any importance. The junk stuff you put in a fancy "cherished" container will probley make any criminal think you are just a junk collector, not a collector of a stash.

Bury some in a flower pot!

Buy an old cheap, beat-up canister vacuum at a garage-sale, hide your PMs within. Stash it under a workbench or something. (One guy who did said - In ten years not even the wife has touched it.)

Put it in your freezer divided among various frozen food packages. Call it cold cash. Be sure the Freezer bags are not transparent, it would defeat the purpose.

Take a Big a$$ Turkey and stuff it with Bullion, put it in a Freezer bag and stuff in the back of the freezer... You could also make a huge bowl of Vegetable stew... Drop in a bunch of rounds, poor the Bullion stew into a Freezer bag and Freeze...

For the smaller amounts, sometimes the safest place is within a bunch of clutter! And split it up to be extra careful.

Maybe the silver could go in a grocery shopping bag buried in a box covered with old magazines or newspapers in the basement,......and especially effective if that "live" box is placed in a cluttered area with a bunch of boxes we all seem to accumulate.

The few gold ounces could go under a corner of a carpet or in a hollowed out book in your bookcase.

You can make a PVC pipe gold coin containers that look like plumbing fixtures.........and could be placed over a toilet in the upper tank area. Just be sure to remove it if you have any service done by a plumber!

Amazing things can be done with a toilet tank (use containers of some sort to keep the coins from making it to the bowl of course) if you have no better place. (who's gonna look there?)

Garbage pail, using a bag though. The bag is a liner for the garbage pail, put it in the bottom...how many robbers take out your garbage?

IF they are coins or rounds, flip over a table ( dining, coffee, etc, or even a dresser unit.. ).....measure in from the edges, go to home improvement place and buy a pc of 1/4" plywood.....also have them rip you enough 1" wide stuff to go around the perimeter of the plywood ( or buy some screen moulding that is about 1/4" thick and 3/4 wide, cut with a utility knife ). Glue the strips around the perimeter of the pc of plywood creating a hollow space the thickness of the perimeter strip under the plywood when laid strip side down. Lay your coins flat on the bottom side of the table, use some short screws to screw the plywood pc to the underside of the table covering the coins....spray paint to approximate the color of the table underside so it looks like part of the table.

If there are any base boards along the the wall, just pop one off, cut a hole as long as you want, then nail or (what I would do) get a tube of silicone and glue it back. That way you can pop it off easy enough when you need it.

If you have small amounts of gold, you can unscrew the plates of your phone jacks, and store it in there (plenty of room in the box). That's what I did when I lived in an apartment.

Buy a large can of coffee from a price club type place and put the precious metals at the bottom of the can and have the coffee be on top.

Two inch metal pipe with caps on the ends. Place eagles or rounds inside and seal tight. Bury near or under the water or gas line. A metal detector reading is deemed a false positive. If you do that, sleeve it inside a 3" plastic pipe so it will be easier to remove.

As a female buyer and collector the best place I can think to hide some PMs is in boxes of feminine hygiene products hidden in the back of the bathroom vanity. Layer the bottom with PMs and neatly place tampax or sanitary napkins on top. I bet you're going eeeeeeeeeeewwwwwww right about now! I just don't know many guys, and most burglers are probably men, who would go near those darn boxes!

Inside an old VCR - nobody would ever steal a VCR!

Inside a matress.

Under the gravel in a fish tank in the basement

Under the fake soil in a large fake plant


FROM A FOLLOW-UP DISCUSSION.................>>


Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack London
A house safe can be good. Especially if you can mount it in the concrete of your basement. But keep in mind, almost any safe can be overcome by the right guy with the right knowlege and tools.

But the best advice I could give for hiding PM is to hide it with your tongue. It is very tempting to tell friends about your new love of gold and silver, but do not, DO NOT, tell them you have any. Make up a story. Tell them it is in a bank, tell them you bought into an ETF, or shares in a mining company. If someone know it is there, they will rip your house apart looking for it.

HO RESPONSE - Some great points there..........

Not only can a safe be overcome with a guy with the right tools, many safes get wheeled out of homes on dollies in just a few minutes, if not bolted down - and even then!

We were about to buy a safe, after weighing various options like size, weight, fire-proofing........had one all picked out, and then, the day I was going to pay for it, my wife said something which, oddly, I read an article about the next day........if you have a safe and robbers find it - they might well put a gun to your, or a family member's, head and tell you to open the safe! Then you have to decide just how much gold and silver your life is worth.

The advice given about holding your tongue is right on the money.....er.......gold and silver. The less people who know you have anything worth stealing, the better the chance no one will bother robbing you. But that having been said - people still break into houses and there is always the chance.

I tell anyone you knows I have any numismatic interests - and some do because I help others invest in PMs and certain numismatics - that I have them stored in a safe-deposit box, which eliminates them thinking there is anything at home. (I tell the rest its under 200 pounds of cow manure in the back yard - feel free to come and dig it out!)

For us, we doubled up our options by first scattering our metals around the house in various hiding places, tho few on that list......and no, don't ask where, I ain't about to tell you or give you a map! (IMO safe deposit boxes are ok until something ugly goes down, and one can't get into the bank - they close, or its weekend, or the government does something - do YOU trust the government? I DO! I trust them to f*ck me over any chance they get - so no deposit boxes for me thank-you.)

By scattering the metals around in various places - most robbers, once they find something of value, will race to get out and not keep searching long. In fact, I keep a little silver in easy access, right on my desk, so if they find it they will be gone.

Then, rather than a safe, we put in a really excellent home monitoring security system (ask if you are interested - they love when I recommend them)........if robbers DO break in - an alarm goes off - which will scare most away immediately - and the police are summonded automatically. (Same if anyone gets in and cuts the wires inside - tho coming in would set off the alarm anyway.) There are motion detectors that will also set it off, but are not set off by small pets.

Nothing is foolproof - no matter what steps you take, there are risks. You just do the best you can, and double, or triple, your odds.

That's how we doubled ours, various locations and a great electronic alarm system which - in the end cost less and was much more efficient than a safe - plus, if we move, we can take it with us. We tripled it with our killer parrot........who, in addition to skinning you alive, would make so much noise you can hear him for blocks screaming.

And, of course, we have a lovely storehouse of the fifth PM.........lead!

[ME Co.]

Never get tired of recapping that post- I should really save it but you always seem to repost it when I need a refresher. Thanks, Mark

[Master_Ho]

Never get tired of recapping that post- I should really save it but you always seem to repost it when I need a refresher. Thanks, Mark

Its one of many I keep handy - figure the new folks might be able to get something from it..........


BTW - I do not use any of those options because, well, obviously, I have made them public.......and there is still plenty of room outside under our lemon tree!!

Cheers!

[Rollie Free]

Might I also suggest that once you have a secured hiding place that you mask your pm's (gold at least) in something that might have value to yourself but none to others. I would hide it in something, hidden in something else, hidden away, so once someone does stumble accross it they will look at the contents and not be the least interested (such as hiding them carefully in a picture album. It will look 'precious' to the owner but garbage to someone else). I am sure there are many good ideas and with a little ingenuity you can come up with something good.

[slugbucket]

Unless you are rich and live in a fancy neighborhood you will probably not get targeted by professionals. That leaves crackheads or kids. Give them something to take and then get the heck out like they really want. Take a large glass container and fill it with change and salt it with some dollar bills. The lowlifes will think they hit the motherlode because they don't even have to pawn it but if you make it weigh 50 pounds they will grab it alone and go.

[ME Co.]

Unless you are rich and live in a fancy neighborhood you will probably not get targeted by professionals. That leaves crackheads or kids. Give them something to take and then get the heck out like they really want. Take a large glass container and fill it with change and salt it with some dollar bills. The lowlifes will think they hit the motherlode because they don't even have to pawn it but if you make it weigh 50 pounds they will grab it alone and go.

50lbs of change is quite a haul $$$wise. HH Mark

[mqracing]

whose calling who a hoard?

you say idaho i say NO Udaho

I'm not sure if it counts as a hoard or not... but I gave away my last two Mercury dimes to a nice girl down on the avenue.
She said she'd do anything for money. I told her no thanks, keep the change, and gave her those two ole crusty mercuries.

[slugbucket]

50lbs of change is quite a haul $$$wise. HH Mark

I think $100 of zinc cents is over 50 lbs., then throw in some quarters and dollar bills to make it look good.

My protection is a house full of junk, dogs, vigilant neighbor, and a 12 ga.

[coin finger]

I don't mean to be rude but you have either a small stash or a big cat.

Actually,I fit quite a few 1 oz gold bars in a baggie!!And if you put a false bottom in the box noone will ever find them not even the cat!!....

[Irons]

I carry my entire stash with me everywhere I go, thats why I had to sell off all the silver. Too heavy for too little value.

[Nickelless]

YOU PUT YOUR HOARD WHERE?????

[rastmp]

Where the sun dont shine...