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Active shooter in Las Vegas - "hundreds of shots fired"

Discussion in 'Topical Discussions (In Depth)' started by chomper, Oct 2, 2017.



  1. 917601

    917601 Mother Lode Found Mother Lode

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    That is what forcefully releases your finger pressure from the trigger so it can reset the hammer. It takes practice, and results in imitation full auto ( as heard in many recordings), not clockwork as with the real deal.In any case, the basic Operating principal- Your finger must release trigger pressure so the hammer can reset. Try it at home ( unloaded) with any semi, you will see for your self.

    That operating principal is how and why the ATF approved bump fires! Argue with them.
     
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    i can see we have a major failure to communicate.......i assure you sir i have ...done this at home...used a wooden dowel.....used a rubber band.....used the first bump stocks to come out....hated them all ...........in any case with a bumpstock.....your finger does not move period....the stock does not move......the trigger ...the trigger assembly...the whole upper moves to and from your finger .....causing the triggering and the reseting process...

    edit to add: i think sir you are refering to the "bump fireing" technique that a lot of us used for years in our back yards......while it achives the same results work differently trigger wise ....what i have described is a "bumpstock" and how it works
     
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    "i can see we have a major failure to communicate.." Yes, your point taken. My point, trigger must be released, which is why the ATF approved the design. ATF now has to redefine a " Machine gun" by their current USC definition...I am subscribed,I will monitor their bulletins.
     
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    Latest: this answers some questions.
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    • LAS VEGAS (KTNV) - Mandalay Bay staff did not call Las Vegas police until after Stephen Paddock had already begun firing on the concertgoers, according to "World News Tonight" on ABC. Their information comes from an anonymous source who has reviewed records from the hotel-casino. According to the report, Mandalay Bay staff did not call police when security guard Jesus Campos reported internally that someone was shooting on the 32nd floor. Nor did they call police when building engineer Stephen Schuck also reported internally that someone was firing at him on the 32nd floor. About six minutes after shots were..."
     
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    WND EXCLUSIVE
    LAS VEGAS SHOOTING PROBE TOTALLY ROCKED
    New revelations blow apart previous narrative
    Published: 1 hour ago. Updated: 10/11/2017

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    Stephen Paddock, 64, opened fire on concert goers Oct. 1 from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino hotel.

    The fallout continued Wednesday from police altering the timeline of the Oct. 1 massacre at a concert outside the Mandalay Bay hotel in Las Vegas, and now a hotel worker has emerged saying he warned the hotel staff that a shooter was on the 32nd floor before he unloaded a hail fire of bullets down onto the crowd below.


    Police late Monday shifted the timeline of the shooting to start when security guard Jesus Campos was shot by Stephen Paddock as he approached Paddock’s hotel room on the 32nd floor. The shots Paddock fired at Campos occurred at least six minutes before Paddock began firing down on the unsuspecting country-music fans gathered for the Route 91 concert. He killed 58 and injured nearly 500 in the worst mass shooting in modern American history.

    In a press conference Monday, Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said Campos was shot in the leg at 9:59 p.m. on Sunday, Oct. 1. The first shots at the Route 91 Music Festival were fired at 10:05 p.m.

    This “kinda changes the narrative,” said Muhammad Aziz, an attorney for 21-year-old Paige Gasper, a college student who was at the concert and suffered a serious gunshot wound that shattered her rib cage and lacerated her liver.


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    Paige Gasper recovering at her hospital room in Las Vegas. Photo/GoFundMe

    Gasper was then trampled by those fleeing the chaos until someone picked her up and took her to a hospital.

    “The other thing that’s interesting is that now MGM is saying the police could be wrong on their timeline and is refusing to comment on it, and I think the first big question to me is, why did the security guard go up there to begin with?” Aziz said Wednesday. “What was the situation? The six minutes is a long time.

    “The second question is, did he use his radio to call the front desk … and was 911 called? And the whole chain of command seemed to have broken down here because for six minutes nothing happened and then this criminal started shooting at these innocent people, so the timeline is extremely crucial and so is a big part of the lawsuit and the investigation.”

    Watch attorney talk about the importance of timeline in the investigation of the Las Vegas shooting.


    Ten days after the horrific shooting, police still have provided no motive, and the frequent changes in the facts being released to the public have fueled conspiracy theories on exactly what happened that night.

    One of the most frequent theories is that Paddock was not the only shooter, something police continue to debunk.

    ISIS has claimed credit for the attack but the FBI says they have zero evidence linking Paddock to the terrorist organization.

    Hotel worker comes forward with key info

    Another new revelation surfaced Wednesday in the form of a hotel maintenance worker who called hotel dispatchers and warned that a man with a gun was inside the hotel – after Campos had been shot but before the gunman opened fire on the crowd below.

    Worker Stephen Schuck said he told the hotel staff to call police and report a gunman had opened fire with a rifle inside Mandalay Bay before the shooter began his ballistic assault on the music fans, according to an NBC News report.

    The revised timeline has renewed questions about whether better communication might have allowed police to respond more quickly and take out the gunman before he unleashed some 2,000 rounds of ammo on the fleeing crowd.

    Schuck told NBC he was checking out a report of a jammed fire door on the 32nd floor of Mandalay Bay when he heard gunshots and an injured hotel security guard, later identified as Campos, peeked out from an alcove and warned him to take cover.

    “As soon as I started to go to a door to my left the rounds started coming down the hallway,” Schuck said. “I could feel them pass right behind my head.”

    “It was kind of relentless so I called over the radio what was going on,” he said. “As soon as the shooting stopped we made our way down the hallway and took cover again and then the shooting started again.”

    The earlier reports from police, repeated for a solid week, said Campos emerged at the shooter’s hotel door after the massacre down below, and that the shooter killed himself after firing shots through the door at Campos. Sheriff Lombardo hailed Campos as a hero because he said if he hadn’t engaged the shooter at the hotel door the shooter would have killed many more concert-goers.

    This has spurred many more questions as to why the police held to their original story so long, why they finally changed it, and what this means for the hotel and the investigation.

    Clearly the hotel is not happy with the change. Its owner, MGM Resorts International, released a statement Wednesday saying it could not confirm the accuracy of the new timeline released by police.

    “This remains an ongoing investigation with a lot of moving parts. As evidenced by law enforcement briefings over the past week, many facts are still unverified and continue to change as events are under review,” MGM Resorts International spokeswoman Debra DeShong said in a statement. “We cannot be certain about the most recent timeline that has been communicated publicly, and we believe what is currently being expressed may not be accurate.”

    Lawyers for the family of Paige Gasper allege the hotel owner was “negligent or grossly negligent” in its failure to monitor guests coming and going from the property and for not training employees to notice suspicious activity by guests. The suit also alleges the hotel did not respond quickly enough to the reports of shots fired at their own security guard on the 32nd floor.

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    That lawyer must be hungry. He wasted no time getting the lawsuit going. If i were the judge I would throw it out. Whats the hotel supposed to do put everyone through screening like at an airport?
     
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    If that's true, that's f'ed up.

    As for calling the police, has anyone heard any 911 call recordings of people reporting the shooting? I'd think that there should be 100's of calls to 911, especially from people in the hotel. 200 rounds going off inside the place had to be loud.as.F' You'd think there would have been a flood of calls about that.


    They are so f'ed. I hope they get sued over this to the point of having to go out of business. They are such lying f's.


    Edited to add:
    It's called, call the f'ing police the very instant you learn of someone firing a gun inside the hotel. Instead, they waited? WTF were they thinking?
     
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    FBI Back In Reno After Burglars Elude Security And Raid Las Vegas Shooter's Home
    Round-the-clock security didn't stop invaders.
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    Matt McClain/The Washington Post via Getty Images

    ByEMILY ZANOTTI
    October 11, 2017


    The FBI has beefed up security in Reno, Nevada, after a group of burglars broke into the heavily guarded home of Las Vegas mass shooter, Stephen Paddock over the weekend.

    According to authorities, a number of unidentified individuals descended on Paddock's home in the Del Webb retirement community just outside Reno, bypassing both state and federal law enforcement who were assigned to protect the property.

    Local law enforcement says it's not clear how the group got into the home, which is supposed to be under round-the-clock surveillance, and they do not have any suspects — but they also believe nothing was taken from inside the home, as the home was left completely undamaged.


    The break-in prompted FBI officials to undertake a second search of the home, but they didn't say why — just that they needed to "revisit" the suspect's home in light of other evidence.

    "Is the FBI along with LVMPD revisiting the personal property of the suspect? Yes, that is accurate along with the behavioral analysis detectives,” an FBI spokesperson told media Wednesday. “They are also present and maybe we can discern additional evidence as a result of that revisit.”

    On the first go-round, authorities found a second cache of weapons — in addition to the ones Paddock had used to outfit his snipers nest on the Mandalay Bay Hotel And Casino's 32nd floor. They recovered at least ten guns (two shotguns and the rest handguns), a "pile of ammunition" and several unspecificed "electronic devices" which might have been related to Paddock's plan to build explosives.

    Residue from several chemicals used to make home-made bombs was found inside the home, the hotel room, and Paddock's car.

    The shooting investigation has now entered its second week, but authorities say they still have no idea what motivated Paddock to cart hundreds of pounds of artillery up to his Vegas hotel room, blow out two 32nd floor windows, and rain bullets down onto a country music festival below, killing 58 and wounding several hundred more.


    Paddock's autopsy yielded no clues — his brain showed no abnormal function — and Las Vegas Police Department and Mandalay Bay are trying to, between them, hash out a shooting timeline. On Wednesday, a Mandalay Bay maintenance man revealed that he'd reported the shooter to hotel authorities, and instructed them to call the police,
     
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    So. someone ricks getting caught going into a crime scene home that has 24/7 security. A home that's already been searched and probably cleaned out of all weapons and valuables. But they take nothing.. HMMM.

    Both houses had weapons and tannerite and the GF doesnt know shit? Tannerite isnt legal here but in some states it is. I dont know about Nevada. I am assuming that is the bomb making stuff they are talking about.

    Lets see what we get for an update tomorrow.
     
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    Now that you mention it...

    Remember the source on 4chan that warned of an event in Vegas back in September?
    This was one of his posts.


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    Sounds very ballsie this break in but I am thinking they got what the wanted. A group the article implies, Question: How did they know it was a group?

    Let me think? Oh teacher, teacher, teacher I know: The cops got there before the CIA. CIA plant cannot find out which evidence cops have or does know they do not have said evidence. Anyway it is sliced what is wanted is unsecure so it must be taken.

    Come on people the house is guarded and if you know where the guards are and that there is no security on the house its easy peasy. Din't them San Bernardino shooter's house get left unguarded?

    This is just one more crazy piece to a f'ed up puzzle.
     
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    Who else would even think of breaking into an active crime scene?

    And whatever they took was obviously something that LVPD and FBI did not think important.
     
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    JFK cover up...done in public with millions watching on TV, replayed and replayed. The Zabruder film. The eye witness testimony. Yet the government fed the public lies upon lies which MSM dutifully repeated and supported. Sandy Hook. Las Vegas. SOSDD.
     
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    The Lone Wolf, sad that, that meme has worked for so long and the people just don't get it and call ppl like me a conspiracy theorist. Well people of the world this is one that totally just snafu'ed on them.

    You know that ABDanger site always uses the term "Red Kill Switch" and they always publish kill betting, or something similar. I always kind of figured I just did not have the proper decoder ring and kind of thought they were loopy. BUT with the SOROS reaping what $4B or million on his stock and the MGM managers? I am thinking these people just might be on to something.

    edited to add: the people who are on to something is the site I mentioned.
     
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    Its time to simply stop accepting the vomit that the FBI and other 'government officials' tell us. These people DO NOT work for us. What they keep telling us is all Prime Grade A bullshit. It always has been and only now are the masses realizing it!
     
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    Audio recording from inside Mandalay Bay during mass shooting

     
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    WHAT HAPPENED?

     
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    Very ballsie. Someone(s) with nothing to lose.


    I would think it would require at least a small group. If for no other reason than to have lookouts and/or people there to run interference if necessary.
     
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    From Jim Stone:

    HUGE TWIST:
    Mike Adams bullet trajectory analysis, when pegged down to a specific location, matches the abandoned Skyvue towers perfectly.
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    The skyvue towers are what is left of an abandoned ferris wheel project that started five years ago. They are the supports that were supposed to hold the wheel. For whatever reason it was not deemed econimically viable and they abandoned it. The towers stand 200 feet tall, and have mechanical access doors and an interior stairwell inside of them for providing service access to the ferris wheel hub.


    VERY IMPORTANT:Trolls are trolling the towers badly, and I always use troll behavior to guage the validity of a topic. Trolls are doing everything they can to divert the public away from these towers. These towers are so close to the concert that they are considered to be at near point blank range for a basic 5.56 round (not even an updated boosted one.) Their much closer proximity to the concert would explain why the gunfire was so loud. Their position also would explain why people in the videos appear to have had temporary shelter in front of the stage until gunmen opened fire from other angles. Their position also would explain why the performers and people back stage said they first became aware of the shooting when bullets started hitting the roof of the stage.

    Trolls are preying on ignorance, hoping people can't get a concert perspective on how the towers were actually positioned, and are then saying the towers were not tall enough to give a shooter a vantage point to see the crowd from behind or above the stage (gee, that sounds familiar, I said right in the beginning the shots probably came from above the stage). Trolls are calling the towers "mounds of dirt", torn down, full of rebar (so no one could shoot from them) and all other manners of lies about them, and I can probably guess why. The answer is obvious, and now trolls are not going to be able to bury these towers because I hunted down a perfect perspective of where they are and posted it here, (above and below) which pretty much means the end of their work on this.

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    IMPORTANT: People posted to social media that the police had the entire area around the towers completely sealed off after the shooting. Obviously it would be to make sure all evidence of shooting from the towers was cleaned up perfectly, with no one to witness the cleanup, let alone wander into the area later (which only has a mundane chain link fence surrounding it) and finding proof part of the shooting happened from there.

    Obviously since the shooting was a deep state op, all the shooters had to do when they finished is call it miller time and wait while the situation on the ground below cooled off. After that, it was a short walk to an industrial area to the south west of the towers and into the air port for an easy getaway.



    Let's force Google to do good for once.
    Click the screen grab below to go straight to the scene and "walk around" yourself. The Mandalay as a shooting location is laughable by comparison.


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    OFFICIAL STORY TO BE CONFIRMED ACCURATE!!
    GET THIS!! After the FBI already went through Paddock's home looking for evidence and not finding what they were after, it got "broken into", and now they are going back to search it again! And obviously when that happens, they will get everything they need to prove the official story true. They will throw in a few plot twists and revelations, and then mop their butts clean with a fairy textbook dream come true happy ending for the police state.


    Ha ha ha, it does not get any more transparently B.S. than THIS.

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    REAL VICTIMS OF SHOOTING NEVER INTERVIEWED, FAKES SWAPPED IN AT FAKE HOSPITAL
    Paul Craig Roberts posted a letter from a military surgeon that specialized in treating gunshot wounds. This surgeon remarked about how the patients in the hospital videos were obviously not shot. The people in the "hospital videos" probably were indeed not shot. But they were most likely never at the concert at all because it was a fake hospital video. Most likely, the people who were actually shot were never interviewed by the press because they would interfere with the official story. What would be worse than having a real witness of the event get on camera and blow it for the FBI?




    After finding a totally obscure video that shows it all clearly, I now affirmatively know the shooting was real, and that everything I said about real people being left to die overnight is accurate. I found a perfectly clear video of the shooting in progress, a video that was buried up until this point. I also now affirmatively know that the media never interviewed real victims, they interviewed actors who were complicit in the shooting that would not spill the beans on the official story
    This video clearly proves the gunfire originated on site, and not from far away. It clearly proves there is blood everywhere, because it did not rain yet the pavement has huge wet areas. It clearly shows an unconcious girl with a huge head wound dripping blood on the pavement as people try to get her to safety. Keep in mind that at night a camera is not going to make blood show red on black pavement. Blood color is so close to black from an actual light absorption perspective that cameras just cant discern the color at night, especially a cell phone.


    The doctor that sent the letter to Paul Craig Roberts was probably being honest, and giving an honest reaction to what was obviously actors in a fake hospital video. But what he most likely did not know was that the media was most likely interviewing fake people from a fake hospital location, all the while real victims were never spoken to. They won't be spoken to, because they would spill the beans. The video clearly shows the people know where the gun shots are coming from, and are trying to make a strategic exit without getting shot themselves. If all the people in the hospital videos were cheery and leaving within days, they CLEARLY, CLEARLY were not the people in this video.

    THIS VIDEO IS SO TELLING THAT IT WILL NOT COME UP IN SEARCH RESULTS. It is obvious all the hits are from people linking into it that happened to have known about it, I tried searching for it by its exact title and Youtube would absolutely not allow it to show up.

    Dead security guard
    A man who was staying in room 31234, next door to Paddocks, said police shot the security guard. Why would Mister Hodge say that, only to have the story change to the patsy shooting the guard? EASY ANSWER: Because the security guard went up with the police, and saw that none of the windows were missing from the room. For that, he had to die.


    You know what I really think? I think there was never even a death scene set up at the Mandalay, and it was probably staged in a mock room elsewhere. For the daytime photos (to satisfy the press) they had to kick a couple windows out for show but they are probably already fixed by now, if they are not it is for show.



    ADDITIONAL OFFICIAL STORY DOOM:
    I never saw proof of what Paddock's room layout looked like, and did not want to say anything because on the top floors the vista suite does wrap around to include both broken windows. But as it turns out, the floor plan finally got published, and on Paddock's floor, the vist suite ends before the second broken window, just as people have been saying the whole time. Until I found proof, I did not want to say it myself. This means that to do the shooting, Paddock had to kick a wall out and join the two rooms. WHY IN THE * would anyond do that, when it would provide no strategic advantage at all? The answer to that question is below, in the next report.
     
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    good thing the designated badges din't find them because I would think they would monitor police radio transmissions from dispatch.

    I had a friend who is dead now but he did something similar. These people got caught up in something and the cops arrested them, took the children and left the house wide open. So my friend was contacted by what he thought was their acquaintances/friends and they went to move the people's stuff out. Bang, 5-0 shows up and arrests them all half way done with the house. Come to find out Martin was helping them steal, boy was he pissed. Well it turned out a-ok when the sudo-friends coped out that Martin didn't know a thing and was just mussel for the move. Of course I guess all this was done in the daylight. What Martin told me was he thought the police had taken everything they wanted so he assumed it was ok to just go through the tape.

    So that is all I have in something to juxtapose as to what was going on at the decedents/Paddox's residence. And, whom ever went in wasn't after the furniture....nope me be thinking they were after something small that most likely had a transmitter on it.
     
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    MGM Maintenance Man: I’m ‘Incredibly Blessed’ I Escaped Las Vegas Shooting | TODAY

     
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    It’s being reported that the security guard made famous in the Las Vegas shooter story is not even registered as a guard with the State of Nevada. Is he even a guard? Why was he there?
    Every security guard in the state of Nevada has to register as an armed or unarmed guard with the state’s Private Investigator’s Licensing Board (PILB). This entity’s records are publicly searchable at: nevadapilb.glsuite.us.

    There’s no Jesus Campos licensed with the PILB.

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    Earlier this week we found out that Campos was shot before the shooter started firing on the crowd below at the music festival in Las Vegas. Before this revelation we were told that the security guard, Jesus Campos, stopped the killer from murdering more people when he approached the killer’s room in Vegas.

    Now we find out that the security guard is not even a registered security guard in Nevada!


    What is going on?



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    The whole thing is coming off the rails. Not sure of the authenticity of the author but thought what's written here was interesting.

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    I appreciate thoughtful analysis that generate different theories. That’s what makes a good investigator. That said I’m certain the lion's share of the huge wet areas were created by spilt beer, water etc.
     
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    Question for any of you.

    Some people are trying to say that this Security Guards name is Albert J Campos, claiming that Jesus is his nick name.

    Has anyone seen them call him Albert...anywhere???
     
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    Got a link to this??
     
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    This look like the right size??


    Bullet from Las Vegas shooting passed through man, stuck in wallet

    Robert Gundran, The Arizona Republic
    Friday, 13-Oct-17 00:01:00 PDT

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    PHOENIX — An Arizona man received a series of texts that no parent would ever want to get from a child.

    "There was a shooting at Route 91. I got hit," read the text message from Bill Robinson Jr. to his father.

    Bill Robinson Sr., 63, of Scottsdale got the text from his 35-year-old son, who was attending the Route 91 Harvest music festival on Oct. 1 in Las Vegas.

    The elder Robinson felt immediate relief when he got another text message that read, "I'm good."

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    The bullet hit Bill Jr. and passed right through him on his right side, according to Robinson Sr.

    After the bullet exited, it entered his son's wallet, ripped through cash and cards and lodged inside the billfold.

    The cash Bill Jr. carried with him, presumably to spend on leisure and fun in Las Vegas, was now stained with his own blood in what was the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history.

    Doctors told the younger Robinson that if he were hit at a slightly different angle, the bullet could have hit his femoral artery or his spine.

    Robinson Sr. said his son's cellphone died during the night after he sent the texts, but one of his friends kept an open line of communication with the family.

    More: 3 Nevada gun shows canceled, but just wait: Others will go on

    "She was a hero," said the elder Robinson of the friend, Lisa Reiswig, who stayed with his son while he was in the hospital.

    "She never left his side through the whole ordeal," he said. "They were together when the shooting started. They helped each other get out of the venue and into the car to get to the hospital."

    Robinson Sr. drove to Las Vegas the morning after the shooting to see his son.

    Robinson Jr. is out of the hospital and back home in Colorado.
     
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    WTF?? Destroying evidence???


    Newest Vegas Report Cause For Concern As FBI Targets Survivors Phones, Wiped CLEAN
    Posted by Sam Di Gangi | Oct 12, 2017

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    Images such as these have surfaced but many more never will thanks to the F.B.I. erasing data.

    The facts and details that keep emerging from the Las Vegas shooting get nothing if not more baffling by the day. Prison Planet has just confirmed the strangest part yet and it has nothing to do with hidden cameras, meals for two (not one, as a lone shooter, would desire), special elevator access, or even what kind of gun Stephen Paddock used.

    Rather, they report that the F.B.I. has returned all laptops and cell phones to those who were at the concert with the messages, photos, and other data deleted from the devices! Everything was wiped clean.

    Those within the independent media have ALWAYS said to store, back up, and/or send ALL data to another device or server before EVER handing it over to authorities and this highlights why that is.

    A Facebook posting from a Vegas survivor reads, “A bunch of people that worked the Route 91 said they got their cell phones back today. They all said that all their phones are completely wiped clean! All messages and info from that weekend are completely gone. Anyone else experience this?

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    Now before anyone can claim that this was only one error on one personal device, that is not so. “A few different people who were vendors there are all saying the same thing” confessed another woman later in the comment section.

    Of course. It’s an active federal crime scene. They can wipe it clean. I was the beverage manager for the entire event. My laptop is wiped clean,” said yet another user in the thread. This is why people often do not turn over such devices and why everything in one’s power is often done to prevent ever doing so.

    When news giant Infowars asked another survivor about it, they confessed to the same thing but asked to not be named. If more people would stand up and BE named, perhaps the iron glove of Uncle Sam’s overreach could be slapped back.

    Some will say that the F.B.I. did this in order to prevent conspiracy theories from popping up, but clearly, that is not the case. What is it that we were not supposed to see? That is the question now being asked by many.



    Conservative legend Anne Coulter said, “I don’t know what happened — and, apparently, neither do the cops — but it’s kind of odd that we keep being told things that aren’t true about the Las Vegas massacre, from the basic timeline to this weird insistence that Paddock made a good living at gambling.”

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    There are lots of questions and very, very few answers. For one, why would Paddock wear gloves if he was going to kill himself?

    Unfortunately, now that so much data has been erased by those who claim to be looking to protect us, we may never know the answer to any of them.

    Source: Prison Planet
     
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    I had dinner with a good friend last night. He works with a guy who is dating a girl and her family in Vegas sold all the guns to paddock, a lot of them anyway.. All legit sales and nothing abnormal to report about it. Small world.
     
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    Nope, doesn't look like a .223/5.56 to me. Too long! Probably fake news!
     
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    K, I am going with fake 100 bill that was in wallet but yet shows no fold/crease. Actually the dimensions look too wide for, length. Butt if every one wants it to be a real bill then I am calling fake because how did the blood get through the wallet then there is the thought that back pockets should be shielded by the hip bones. I'm thinking the bullet looks like the stretcher bullet.

    did any one ask the guy for his contact information on his phone after the FBI was done with it?
     
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    QUOTE: This bullet look like the right size?

    Yes. 55 gr fmj with cannelure. Loaded thousands of them.

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    Its like it never happened. digital footprints erased.....OH, I get it :-) they pay no taxes now, you pay no tax's, and I pay no taxs...we just tell them the FBI erased it. :belly laugh:
     
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    Las Vegas security guard Jesus Campos disappears moments before TV interviews


    Where in the world is Jesus Campos?

    The Mandalay Bay security guard shot by Stephen Paddock in the moments leading up to the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history was set to break his silence Thursday night with five television interviews, including one on Fox News, Campos' union president said.

    Except when the cameras were about to roll, and media gathered in the building to talk to him, Campos reportedly bolted, and, as of early Friday morning, it wasn't immediately clear where he was.


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    Media scrum tonight as we learn security officer shot in Vegas attack, Jesus Campos’ whereabouts are unknown.

    10:46 PM - Oct 12, 2017




    “We were in a room and we came out and he was gone,” Campos' union president told reporters, according to ABC News’ Stephanie Wash.

    LAS VEGAS SHERIFF FRUSTRATED BY DATA DISCREPANCIES, UNANSWERED QUESTIONS

    Campos is represented by the International Union, Security, Police and Fire Professionals of America, which did not respond to requests for comment from Fox News earlier this week.

    Fox News' Sean Hannity tweeted out that Campos, who was scheduled to appear on "Hannity" Thursday night, “cancelled” his appearance.


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    He cancelled. https://twitter.com/lauraloomer/status/918659469818630144 …

    10:20 PM - Oct 12, 2017





    Little is known about Campos, with few pictures to emerge of the security guard and no apparent online footprint surfacing to provide details about one of the central figures in the mass shooting.

    SPFPA President David L. Hickey told reporters new information about the timeline of the attack -- for which Las Vegas Police and MGM Resorts have given conflicting accounts – doesn’t dispute Campos is still a hero for saving a maintenance worker and possibly stopping additional shots, Wash reported.

    MGM Resorts issued a statement Thursday to “correct some of the misinformation that has been reported."

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