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Crooks, Cons & Connivers In The Automotive Industry

Discussion in 'Auto, Tractor, Motorcycles, Racing, and Mechanics' started by searcher, Feb 10, 2017.



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    Oil change scams: Hidden camera investigation on what really happens to your car (CBC Marketplace)
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    Published on Sep 10, 2014
    CBC Marketplace finds aggressive upselling and services paid for but not performed To read the full story:
    http://www.cbc.ca/1.2418675. Originally broadcast Nov 8, 2013.

    When you trust someone else to take care of your car, can you trust that they're not taking you for a ride? Our undercover investigation reveals ripoffs at a popular oil change chain. We're going in for the advertised $19.99 oil change, but you won't believe the charges we end up with. And did they even do the work? We go up on the hoist to show you what’s really going down at these oil change shops.


     
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    Tow truck tricks: Don't get scammed after an accident (CBC Marketplace)
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    Published on Dec 4, 2015
    Marketplace investigates tow trucks that can take you for a ride after an accident. For more: http://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/episode...
     
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    Auto Mechanics That Will RIP YOU OFF - Stick With A Trusted Mechanic!
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    Published on Mar 7, 2017
    Video that shows you that not all mechanics are trustworthy. You should find a mechanic that you trust, and stick with them, or else this can, and will happen to you!
     
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    I am the only person who ever works on my vehicles.
     
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    I used to be the only one who worked on mine. Since I retired I take them to a shop with a very good rep. Kinda done with that chapter of my journey.
     
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    Add-on Insurance Scams | Auto Expert John Cadogan | Australia
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    Published on Mar 8, 2017
     
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    Can You Trust Jiffy Lube Or Will They RIP YOU OFF??
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    Published on Mar 9, 2017
    Video of an undercover sting targeting various Jiffy Lube stores in the California area. Please take note to the scams and techniques they use to get your money. Find you a trustworthy mechanic and STICK WITH THEM!
     
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    Ripoff Car Dealerships! WATCH THIS Before You Buy A Car, BUYER BEWARE!!
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    Published on Mar 10, 2017
    Before you buy a used car from some of these dealers, be sure to have a trusted mechanic check it out so you don't have any problems like this lady did. In the state of North Carolina, there is NO WARRANTY on used cars, unless you purchase the extended warranty.
     
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    I have a BIG BEEF with the SMALL diesel motors available in Europe NOT being available in the US - on the SAME MODEL VEHICLES !!!

    That goes for FORD - with a 2.2 liter diesel on Ford Transit vans, and for FIAT DUCATO aka DODGE PROMASTER-RAM VAN with a 2.3 liter diesel.

    They both get well over 30 mpg, with over 130 hp... and top speeds of over 90mph.

    Now WHY are WE not "allowed" to have that PURCHASE CHOICE?

    - EPA?
    - Oil Lobby?
    - Car manufacturers thinking there wouldn't be a "market"?

    IMO, it's a SCANDAL.
     
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    Closest I can find in my "wish list" in the US

    ProMaster.jpg
    Not the 2.3 liter, but a 3 liter - lots of torque... Wonder if the 6-gear manual tranny is offered.

    Get a window van... ( Dodge online "build your own" comes to under $35k - but "find a dealer" entering zip code can't find any available, entering multiple zip codes, - don't make it easy! ) ... then ship it to France to get it turned into an RV... then ship it back to States? In France, they have central heating systems that run off the fuel tank... and gas stoves that run off propane tank(s), along with fridges that run off both propane & extra battery or two (and solar panels on roof)... Sliding window shades, mosquito screens, opening skylight, awning (not for me), full bathroom with sink/shower. Rotating front seats to dinette facing rear passenger seats. (Seats 4, sleeps 3) Plenty of cabinetry.

    Europe is 220 volts, 50 hertz... that might be a problem to check out.

    I shipped a Ram 1500 conversion Van from Miami to Belgium a few years ago for about 2 grand, but it wasn't as tall and fit in a container... full to the roof with all my junk... furniture, tools, clothing, queen bed, futon. That works in a container. Otherwise, non-container the vehicle has to be "empty" (of personal items) - in "roll-on, roll-off" transport.

    I might start checking the prices (transport & conversion).

    Because the equivalent "Winnebago" etc. start at over $90k...
     
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    Are You A Victim Of The Dealership Yo-Yo? BUYER BEWARE Of Dealership SCAMS!
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    Published on Mar 11, 2017
    Video explaining what dealerships do to scam more money out of you. It's called the dealership yo-yo, and thousands of people have already fallen victim to this, don't be next, BUYER BEWARE!
     
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    Last sentence "the salesman, BILLY HIGHTIRE, no longer works for them"... appropriate name, haha
     
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    Can Your Own Car KILL YOU? What You Don't Know About TAKATA
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    Published on Mar 11, 2017
    Used car dealers will not tell you whether a car has the takata airbag in it or not, that is up to you, but at what cost are you willing to pay to find out? Watch this video and arm yourself!!
     
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    Customer's Car For A Joyride? Dealership And Repair Shop Scams!
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    What really happens when you drop your car off to be repaired? Are the people who are suppose to take car of your car using it for their own personal use?
     
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    Buying A Car Off CRAIGSLIST? Is That REALLY The Owner??
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    Published on Mar 12, 2017
    Be very careful when buying a used car off craigslist. Many ads will say it's the owner or private party selling the vehicle, when all the time it's a USED CAR DEALER!
     
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    Can You Trust A MOBILE MECHANIC?
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    There are things you can do to know if you can trust a mobile mechanic. A mobile mechanic is a person or company that comes to you, whether it's your home or place of business.
     
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    Finding a good/honest mechanic is a nightmare for most people (including me).

    A few rules of thumb.

    - Avoid shops "on the main drag" - since they don't have to depend on "repeat customers", and can "con" as they wish, even inventing "parts that need changing" even though they don't.

    So, look for smaller shops where you have to take quite a few turns through neighborhoods to find them.

    - Also, "ask around", the more the better. Perhaps companies with fleet vehicles who don't do their own maintenance (haven't tried that). Or people who specialize in buying vehicles at auctions (haven't tried that either).

    I got lucky - I bought some tires online, and they had a list of nearby garages where they could ship them to be mounted. It turned out the place I chose also did general repairs on all brands. Over time, I've developed a trustworthy relationship. My car's 20 years old, parts are hard to find - so I buy them online and the mechanic installs them. Cash transactions, no receipts. Last week, he charged me $50 labor to replace a fwd drive-shaft. I call that "honest". (The OEM part cost $250, but online I found an after-market for $100, so total $150 installed... At a "roadside garage" or "dealer", the bill would probably have been $500 instead of $150...)
     
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    Finding a good mechanic:

    Word of mouth advertising is golden.

    Avoid stores. They usually pay low hourly wages and a commission. This gives the mechanic an incentive to sell peeps shit they don't need.

    Avoid flat rate shops. Speed can lead to problems being misdiagnosed and sloppy work.

    Go on line and look for reviews on shops you may be considering.

    Clean shops and uniforms usually indicate pride and professionalism.
     
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    The place I go is a MESS !!! haha - engines & drive trains & tires piled all around - grungy overalls - have to search all over for the correct wrench/socket...
    ... meaning they don't have a lot of "overhead" with duplicates of equipment, and extra cleaning staff...
    Only the "boss - head mechanic", 2-3 "helpers - apprentices"... And sometimes the "diagnostics" are "best guesses", but so far were accurate.
    Always 3-4 (complete) vehicles inside at various stages of repair, and a few sitting outside. And with or without appointment, a line in front... I usually arrive at 8am, knowing they open at 8.30 or 9... But that doesn't always mean I'll be "first served". They'll fix a pull-in with a flat tire (and no spare) first, for instance.
     
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    They NEVER Changed My Oil, But Charged Me, QUICK LUBE SCAMS!
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    Published on Mar 14, 2017
    The perfect quick lube scam where you bring your car in for a simple oil change, but come to find out that they never changed your oil, but they actually charged you for it!
     
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    YOU WRECKED MY CAR! - Automotive Complaints DISAPPEAR From State Website
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    Published on Mar 15, 2017
    If a repair shop damages your car and NEVER tells you about it, in fact, they try to cover it up, and you file a complaint with a bureau that holds ALL complaints for all auto repair shops for the public to view, what happens when your complaint, and thousands others, just DISAPPEAR?
     
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    Never trust the last mechanic! How to avoid getting burned!
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    Published on Mar 17, 2017
    Blog 05: by Shane Conley

    Video Lesson: Why to test fits parts, use the service manual and never trust the last tech!
    Video Series: Every Mechanic Should Know This https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...

    In today’s lesson, I found a fantastic example to model these three practices:
    1. Good disassembly practices
    2. How test fitting mating parts is beneficial
    3. Record but never “trust” the last mechanic
    Over and over I’ve heard students in training, technicians and DIY customers say this often-costly statement, “that’s the way I took it off”. Oh, the insanity of it all. As a seasoned mechanic, you will learn to NEVER trust the last mechanic upfront!
    I can’t stress enough to take pictures, notes and record any details that will assist in assembly. This missed skillset creates such “expense” on assembly for many entry-level or DIY mechanics.

    Q: Why? A: You must use this “recording” as data for the assembly process. Just data. You must remember not all data is good. Let me provide an example.
    Let’s say you have a picture of how you removed a gear and it’s directional by having two different sides (watch the video for this very example). By simply reinstalling as removed, you may potentially use bad data and could install backwards. Here’s an analogy all you parents will relate to. Your child comes out with their shirt on backwards and claims that how they took it off. It doesn’t matter right? It’s still on backwards. What data did they use to put their shirt on backwards? Limited knowledge that it mattered, right? It was still covering them up, they still got dressed, they were in the big kids club right?
    See the similarity with many entry level techs? They just don’t know better yet. It’s the same comparison to the shirt. Did the tech take the gear off “inside out” or “one sleeve at a time”?
    In summary, I find the best practice to record all data with pictures and notes on disassembly. I review the “factual” data as compared to the “correct” data found in the service manual. Then assemble correctly taking special concern if a part was in-deed installed backwards. A required additional step not found in the service manual but is found in the “every mechanic should know this”, is to inspect for problems this may have caused. Let’s not put our shirts on backwards kids.

    Feel free to share and use as desired. Read the entire blog here:
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    Used Car Scam (The Today Show)
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    Uploaded on May 4, 2009
    Today Investigates the Nation's biggest used car scam.

    Buying a used car? Don't just take the seller's word about the car's history.

    You can use a car's vehicle identification number (VIN) to get information including whether the car is stolen or has been in a major accident or a flood.

    Since Jan. 30, consumers have been able to research cars through the National Motor Vehicle Title Information System (NMVTIS), a program of the U.S. Department of Justice. The online database includes information for about 73% of the country's auto population, gleaned from state agencies, junk- and salvage-yard organizations, and insurance companies.

    Currently information from 38 states is available, and all states are required to fully participate by Jan. 1, 2010.

    Visit nmvtis.gov, click on one of the listed providers and follow the prompts. Expect to pay between $2 and $4 for a report, because the authorizing law required that federal funds not be used for this database.

    Used-car reports from commercial companies, like Carfax and Experian's AutoCheck, have a higher price tag but draw information from a wider variety of sources.

    A single report from AutoCheck costs $14.99 (unlimited access for 60 days costs $24.99) and includes information from all states as well as from some sources not found in the NMVTIS database.

    When buying a used car, you need to verify the VIN so you are not a victim of this scam:

    Here's How to Find Your Car's VIN

    Locate your car's unique DNA - its unique vehicle identification number. VINs are normally located in several locations on a car, but the most common places are:

    - On the door frame/door post of the front doors (usually driver's but sometimes passenger's)
    - On the dash near the windshield
    - On the engine itself (machined pad on front of engine)
    - On the car's firewall
    - In the left-hand inner wheel arch
    - On the steering wheel/steering column
    - On the radiator support bracket

    There is a chart that gives further information (by car line) on both the location of the VIN plate and which character in your VIN represents your year of production and specific engine on a used car website, but they have limited the listings to only import cars since those are the car lines in which they specialize. http://www.autohausaz.com/html/vehicl...

    Alternatively, you can call the consumer relations department for the vehicle manufacturer or visit a local new car dealer and ask for the location of the VIN
    It is often etched into multiple locations on any vehicle.
     
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    Do I REALLY Need That? THE AMAZON SELLERS ON YOUTUBE SCAM! PART 1
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    Published on Mar 29, 2017
    There is a growing trend where amazon sellers are forcing you to buy their products using YouTube videos. Did you know they get a percentage of each sell? Stop being scammed and start being smart
     
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    BUYER BEWARE! The Amazon Sellers On YouTube Scam, PART 2!!
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    There is a growing trend where amazon sellers are forcing you to buy their products, products you can do without, using YouTube videos. Did you know they get a percentage of each sell? In this video we give a funny example of how they work.
     
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    I used to have a friend from NYC that was a mechanic in South Florida. He was legitimate half the time. The other half he was trying to rip people or his boss off. He would create fake invoices or skim cash. He would also bill for unnecessary repairs. He even screwed his friends over and that's why we are no longer in contact.
     
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    Jiffy Lube Scam Caught on Tape!
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    Jiffy Lube caught by a news investigation team charging people for work and not doing it.

    Huge thanks to Joel Grover for exposing this fraud. More of his investigations can be found at their site:
    http://www.nbclosangeles.com/

    ***UPDATE***
    Three years later and Jiffy Lube is still scamming customers. Watch:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf6KY6...
     
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    Mechanics That Rip You Off, Find An Honest Mechanic like Astral!
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    Published on May 16, 2017
    Short but very true video about how some shops rip you off by taking too long to diagnose and fix your car. These ripoffs can include high priced parts and high priced labor.


     
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    Upselling Maintenance and Repairs as a Flat Rate Tech!
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    Today I talk about Upselling Needed Maintenance and Repairs to help maintain your customers cars and help make you Money!
     
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    How To Check Over A Car Or Truck BEFORE You Buy It!
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    Video describing the things you need to check over on a car or truck you are thinking of buying if you don't have a mechanic to go with you.
     
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    Product of too much government regulation. EPA regs that go to ridiculous levels on emissions controls to prevent smog over fuel efficiency. Same reason all the diesels here now require the filters AND BS DEF system.

    And after the alleged VW "scandal" I'm sure it'll be a cold, cold day in hell before ANY manufacturer even considers anymore light, efficient diesels here. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if most of the ones currently offered are killed off.
     
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    Latest studies of "real usage" (in Europe) gave OPEL (Chevrolet) diesels the "best grade" for emissions. Might want to investigate...
     
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    Government Motors scores high, eh? Surprise, surprise...
     

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