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Fiction Survival Book Recommendation Thread

Discussion in 'Survival (Preps & Homestead)' started by 5150female, Dec 29, 2010.



  1. 5150female

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    Books are expensive and finding the time to read fiction is tough. In an effort to assist other preppers who want to take a break from Special Forces Manuals please recommend Prep Themed Fiction here.

    I just finished reading : ONE SECOND AFTER by WILLIAM R. FORSTCHEN.
    I absolutely loved it! It takes place over a year in a small mountain community immediatly following an EMP attack of unknown origin or effect (to the members of the community).
    The hero was not perfect, had not prepped at all and realized what just a few things put aside could have meant to his family after the fact of course.

    If you could let me spend your money, I would recommend it with 5 out of 5 stars.

    By contrast, I have just started reading: PATRIOTS - A Novel of Survival in the Coming Collapse by James Wesley, Rawles.

    In a nutshell .....I am not loving it 87 pages in. I will reserve judgement until I finish it and let you know if it came around.

    Given the vein of the novels listed : What can you recommend to us?
     
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    Someone who read both said One Second After is a ripoff of Lights Out. Havent read either but ordering Lights Out as it's highly recommended.

    EDIT: Another poster said he disagrees and that both are worth the read.
     
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    OOOOOOWWWWW! That gave me happy paws. I will check that out!
     
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    "The Road" is not a prepping book, but more of a semi-survival one in a philosophical sense that I would recommend. It's pretty much TEOTWAWKI, where the survival of human will, family and spirit are the focal point. I would recommend seeing the movie first, then reading the book...you can do both in a days time.
     
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    "Lucifer's Hammer" and "Alas babylon" are two that I liked and reccomend; in point of fact I have to keep buying copies because I loan them out a lot and quite often don't get them back.

    In non-fiction, find a copy of "That Dark and Bloody River" by Allen Eckert. It's about the struggle between the Ohio River valley Indian tribes and the euro settlers moving west into their territories. It's written in a novel format so it's not dry history reading, but there is much information on survival in the wilderness under guerrilla war type conditions. A fascinating book.
     
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    + 1 Lights Out.
     
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    -1 on "The Road". Sorry, I just wasn't impressed.

    Truth is stranger than fiction. I'm going to recommend The Mad Trapper of Rat River. It is a true story about a guy that makes Rambo look like a little girl going to dance practice in a tutu. The first 100 pages or so is the meat of the story, which is set in the great depression. The second half of the book details how the author conducted his investigation in order to write the book. Investigation Discovery Channel did a documentary on the guy where they exhumed him and found out through DNA that he wasn't the criminal that the mounties thought him to be, and he still has never been properly identified. The man was a machine who was bound and determined to keep his freedom at any cost.

    http://www.amazon.com/Mad-Trapper-Rat-River-Canadas/dp/1592281176
    Get a used one or...

    http://books.google.com/books?id=TH...&resnum=8&ved=0CEEQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q&f=false
    Read it for free. I'm a little surprised to find the whole book online.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Johnson_(criminal)
    A summary for those with a short attention span.

    http://www.discoverychannel.ca/Showpage.aspx?sid=16335
    The documentary
     
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    Lucifer's Hammer is a good read. Niven and Pournelle are good writers and offer excellent characters and a fascinating, well researched, what if type story concerning a large meteor striking the Earth. My only problem with the story is where it ends up. After struggling madly and defying the odds to survive, the books heroes end up in a socialist compound run by an ex senator. Not too much of a happy ending, in my opinion. But, better than being dead, maybe.
     
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    Lights Out
    Shatter
    Deep Winter

    Here is a List from one of the Survival sites I visit
     
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    Disaster in the Burbs:
    http://www.whenshtf.com/showthread.php?8094-Fiction-Disaster-In-The-Burbs&highlight=disaster+burbs
    This is a story about a woman who prepares pretty well in a community of people who did not prepare well...

    Cold Camp:
    http://benderstreet.com/hosted/cold_camp.pdf
    I don't remember the details too well now, but I did enjoy it. I think the story is about a fellow in the resistance fighting the invading foreigners (maybe something like Red Dawn). I'll have to read this again soon.

    I second the recommendation of "Lights Out". Among other things, I think the author did a very good job of showing how a psychopath can manipulate and control a community.

    UPDATE: I just finished reading Cold Camp again, and it is good. I am sure that if you liked Red Dawn, you will surely enjoy Cold Camp.
     
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    Wow Thanks for those Someone_else.

    Across the board recommendation for "Lights Out". I know what I am going to read next (after the two above).

    Curious...has anyone read either of the ones I mentioned? One Second After or Patriots?
    I have just heard that OSA is going to be made into a movie with Tom Hanks as the lead and Ken Foree ( Peter from Dawn of the Dead YES!!!) as Washington. I think Ron Howard is directing. All those points shouldn't detract from it as a novel though.
     
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    I've read both and liked them both for what they are; "One second After" is a good story and a cautionary tale over how dependent we are on electricity (seems to have borrowed a lot from previous novels ie. "Lights Out" and "Alas Babylon" - at this point it's probably difficult for an author to avoid covering similar ground anyway), "Patriots" is a good tactics and equipment manual written as a novel (a not particularly well written novel, but that wasn't Rawles point in writing it).

    For sheer entertainment value "Swan Song" and "The Stand" are two great supernatural SHTF novels(which I see on Bogie's list). I might add McCammon's "Stinger" for a great alien invasion SHTF novel to the list.
     
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    World made by Hand, by James H Kunstler.
    Story begins in Corvallis, Oregon, electrons stop working, pretty much flows form there. Excellent fiction.
     
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    World Made by Hand is pretty good.
    One Second after is good too.
    Lights Out is by far the best. ...would make a great movie or miniseries.
    Patriot... sorry 5150, it doesn't get any better. Too much product plugging. I mean when you're reading a story and they mention the type of sleeping bag they bought at "John's Outdoors" on 1234 Maple st. Chicago IL 88245, you kinda lose the flavor of the story. There was a some good stuff to refer to, but plot sucked, story meandered.

    I do like the reading different takes on the same scenario. There's always something one book mentions that the other one forgot. ...much like all of us here.
     
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    Be sure to have a Zombie Defense Station close by:
    http://dinomite.net/2009/zombie-defense-station/
     
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    Highly Recommended are Alas Babylon, Lucifer's Hammer, On the Beach, and The Forge of God (the last two aren't really survival, more TEOTWAWKI).

    I read part of Lights Out online a long time ago and it was very amateurish writing. Hopefully someone edited it when he finished it.
     
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    Listen to SilverJeep talking about product plugging with a name like that....[:)]
    I enjoyed Patriots and very much appreciated the product placement through out the book. At the very least it gave me a jump off point for research in that area. I was fortunate enough to get that book on tape so I could listen it on my way to work. JWR is working on a sequel to that book and a prequel. I have listen to it many times and each time picked up something new. I have listen to one second after and didn't really like it as I didn't get any usefull tips aside from owning an older car so that it will survive an EMP
     
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    Thanks for all the recommendations folks!

    I just thought I'd mention BAEN books in here. They publish a lot of Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle's work (Lucifer's Hammer recommended above). They do a lot of science fiction, military fiction, alternate history, fantasy, etc. You can read the first few chapters of just about every book online, and in many instances, the first full books of many series.

    The BAEN website is a great place to get free ebooks and sample ebooks, as well as buy cheap ebooks. They offer all of their products DRM free, in just about any format you could want.

    I know it's not quite on topic, but thought I'd share as they are one of my favorite reading material sources. I've read several series by Niven/Pournelle, so will definitely pick this one up.
     
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    Yep based on your review, I got it from the library.
    I'm about half way in.
    It's hard to put down.
    It has goosed me to re think some of my comfort zones.
    I'm at the spot where it is mentioned that they have just run out of dog food.......

    Those guys are all talented, but I'll wait for the DVD. (assuming that we have electricity by then) :cool1:
     
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    +1 for " The Road "

    as someone said above, it's not really a prepping novel
    but i like it because of it's psychological aspect

    SURVIVAL IS AN ATTITUDE, NOT AN EXPENSE

    having the right mindset NOW, before TSHTF, is all important
    take some time, and think of some " what if " worst case scenarios

    when TSHTF, everyone, even hardcore survivalists, will have to make some hard decisions
     
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    glockngold...I gotta say that book changed the way I look at scenarios now. I intend to read quite a few more on the list.
     
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    You will need a 12 volt back-up system and a laptop with DVD player for your post-Apocalyptic video viewing pleasure.


    Patriots is a very practical book in terms of technical content. The fictional story line is purposeful as an introduction for certain scenarios and the tools necessary.

    I consider it my Boy Scout Handbook for big boys
     
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    I'm surprised the three books by Matthew Bracken were not mentioned.
    I highly recommend them

    ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC
    DOMESTIC ENEMIES: THE RECONQUISTA
    FOREIGN ENEMIES AND TRAITORS

    http://www.enemiesforeignanddomestic.com/
     
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    Not going to relist them all but we have a pretty good collection of links to great SF books here.
     
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    Just thought I'd mention that I'm reading 'Alas Baylon,' right now. I'm about 100 pages in and I'm very impressed, so far. Frank is a good writer and creates believable characters, as well as excellent dialogue and plot, story-line, etc. He has included a lot of ideas concerning the concept of needed, post-apocolyptic items in the story, also. The main characters have been warned of an impending crisis, but the bombs haven't started to fall, yet. It will definitely be interesting to see how the story develops and what happens to the characters. I'll try to keep you posted.
     
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    Oh, thank you for saying that; I thought I was the only one!

    I have to disagree. The writing is poor and if he paid for an editor he got ripped off.
     
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    How much time do you want to waste reading fiction?

    Lucifer's Hammer covers the whole gamut, Alas Babylon blazed the trail. Pournelle's There Will Be War series has some nuggets. A Canticle For Liebowitz birthed the idea of having a reference library.

    Rawles' stuff, site included is all about gear and nothing about skills. His fiction works if you believe anyone will be able to wait until the collapse has occurred and get out of Chicago with all their "stuff", and that a big guy will be well-served carrying a 40lb Barrett .50bmg. Most optimistic scenario and as stated just about "own the right stuff"; as if that enables you to use it proficiently....

    Kurt Saxons books are a decent source of basic information.
    Cookbooks, how-to books, vehicle repair manuals, Merck and other basic medical texts, Ragnar Benson, Duncan Long, Mel Tappan, Life After Doomsday, Nuclear War Survival Skills (www.ki4u.com), Materia Medica and Kent's Repertory for homeopathic medicine references. Would also advise Naturopathy and Herbal references, plus Medicine For Mountineers and Field Surgery Handbook.

    The USAF Survival Manual costs $15. Large 9x11 book w/lots of illustrations. Got mine at Barnes & Noble; great info and concise explanations.

    Would also buy books on gardening. Roedale books are good.
    Try your library. Rohema Baldwin did a book on HomeBirth which is superb. Women will have children and they will be born. May as well know how to help them birth and what to anticipate.

    Where There Is No Doctor and Where There Is No Dentist

    Try this download site for free Military manuals:
    www.stevespages.com

    Basic carpentry, machinist references, blacksmith how-to, gunsmithing and handloading. NRA references, Gun Digest Books on gun dissembly. Brownells Gunsmith Kinks. John Plaster's book on sniping is good discussion about longrange shooting. Reader's Digest Book On Home Repairs.


    Just some that come to mind.
    Visit your library. Esther Dickey wrote Passport To Survival and an earlier classic Mormon 4 cookbook. Library might have these.

    Macrobiotic cookbooks can show you how to build immune system and promote within-body healing using specific whole grain foods and means of preparation. Is anyone too healthy???

    The Buckskin compendiums, Ron Hoods DVDs (survival.com), books on log home building and small energy efficient housing are also of value for your review. Probably need to read up on chainsaw operation, repair, and wood-burning stove usage also. Might want a reference on bicycle mountain bike repair? Texts for homeschooling and dictionary, atlas, globe, barometer etc etc.

    Reading FICTION does nothing to help you prepare or get an insight.

    I read McCarthy's The Road and saw the movie. Better to rent the DVD complete Jericho series. The Road was stupid and senseless, but that is what modern literature wants you to feel; alienated from God and of no value... One Second After was bullshit. Could have been a good premise for a how-to on preserving gear from EMP, instead turned into another wet-dreamed bullshit story.

    Most fiction is crap aimed at guys with 7th grade reading skills, if that. Want to learn something or get an edge? Best DO IT YOURSELF!
     
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    I agree with your take on "Patriots," which I've read about two-thirds of the way through and just haven't had time to finish it yet. I have copious notes scribbled throughout the book on things to think about or try.
     
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    i've read (and own) a lot of the books in this thread, and people are all on the right track.

    one book i'll recommend that is maybe a little different (and i'm gonna get ready to duck thrown tomatos haha) from what people are talking about is..

    world war z by max brooks.

    yes, it's a zombie book.

    but it's the best written zombie book ever. guy goes back and interviews different people from different areas around the world (canada, china, india, nyc, etc.) survived the apocalypse. not at all just gore, and supposedly brad pitt's production company owns the rights to make a movie based on it, though they've been saying that forever.

    one of my favorite books ever, regardless of genre.

    but yeah, i gave my dad '1 second after' and within a couple days of him reading it, he had several cases of water in his basement and came to the range with me and fired a gun for the first time in his life. 2 weeks later, he owned a .357 after never holding a gun in 58 years. :biggrin:

    everyone starts somewhere!
     
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    Be sure to tell us how it ends!
     
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    Ok, as Melbo knows, I got a signed copy of "Lights Out" a while back and have just finished reading it. I had never read the online version, so it was all a new read for me. Just a bit of review, for those interested. I thought it was well thought out and well written. I had trouble putting it down. If you are looking for a book that is about survival if the lights do go out, you will find it an interesting read. Don't look for a lot of detail on survival in itself, it is a novel after all, but does cover some things that a group would have to deal with. Things like transportation, defense, food sources, water and so on, but it not a how to manual for survival. Also the setting for the book is in Texas and takes those climate and conditions into consideration. It does make the lone survival types look kind of hopeless, just like city or even town survivalist look kind of hopeless. So, I'll leave it at that. The book is available on Amazon.
     
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    I also just finished reading the Lights Out book. It is a lot like the One Second After book. It is worth reading. It is interesting how society breaks down and neighbors band together for mutual protection and survival. I think the odds of the grocery stores staying open is a long shot. I feel the stores will be looted within days. It also stresses safety in numbers. I tend to agree with this.
     

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