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How to make America great again.

Discussion in 'Topical Discussions (In Depth)' started by FunnyMoney, Dec 25, 2017.



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Is the USA on track to become great again?

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  1. YES

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  2. NO

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  1. FunnyMoney

    FunnyMoney Silver Member Silver Miner

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    Here is the recipe, it's very well known and not a FunnyMoney original.... so please don't attack the poster with cartoon pictures and instead address the subject matter, if you dare.


    1.
    Do not appoint insider bankers to be in charge of the Treasury, appoint Ron Paul.

    2.
    Audit the FED and make them pay restitution for the TRILLIONS of dollars they have stolen and redirected to their friends.

    3.
    Audit Ft. Knox. A real audit is required to include testing of material, weighing and counting with a large contingent of independent auditors and members of the public and press viewing the entire process. Not a cursory, visual, quick walk in, walk out audit.

    4.
    Return the coinage to 90% silver as it was prior to 1964.

    5.
    Reduce military entanglements overseas and bring at least half the troops home to defend our own nation and our own borders. Put the NG to work to help repair natural disaster stricken areas of our own nation and to help repair infrastructure.


    The POTUS can do all of these things without CONgress approval.

    Until you see the above 5 things happen, America will NEVER be great again. Sorry to give you the sad truth on such a happy day. Don't blame the messenger just because you don't like the message. JMHO. DYODD.


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    hammerhead Not just a screen name Gold Chaser

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    Oil is money. And power. What shall we do about that?
    In the meantime, we live in a fiat world. It is best to play the game as it is. Secure personal wealth but don't advertise it.
     
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    FunnyMoney Silver Member Silver Miner

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    Oil? Energy?

    A free and fair marketplace fixes many issues. The USA still pumps and is still sitting on a lot of natural resources, more than most nations even. But it's not about oil, it's about the dishonest money we're using, controlled by some system or central bank.

    The high or the low price of oil is not a stumbling block, criminals and fully corrupt systems are.
     
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    6. Build the wall on the Southern Border.
     
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    Mujahideen Black Member Midas Member

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    The States should have more power at limiting federal government and the people should have this power directly.

    For example I think the people by way of ballot initiative should be able to void a federal law unless the law is explicitly in the constitution. So... if let’s say 10 states determine that a law needs to be struck down then unless it’s a constitutional amendment it’s gone.

    I also think the states via ballot initiative should be the ones who select and remove Supreme Court judges.

    And obviously also, get rid of the IRS and federal income tax.

    And no laws bigger than one side of one page written in standard sized text. So essentially every page needs to be voted on individually.
     
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    7. Buy more cannabis.

    Legal US marijuana sales up 30% in 2017 – report
    Published: 25 Dec 2017 | 23:07 GMT
    Legal US marijuana sales up 30% in 2017 – report
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    Legal cannabis sales in the US have seen a sharp increase this year, with total purchases growing by 30 percent, a report by Marijuana Business Daily says. It suggests sales could grow even more next year.

    Legal pot sales could increase by another 45 percent in 2018, the latest annual report by Marijuana Business Daily said. The publication, a trade news website for professionals in the recreational and medical cannabis industry in the US, further forecasts that legal weed sales in America could quadruple between 2016 and 2021, with the marijuana market eventually hitting highs of $17 billion in sales.

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    As sales figures rise, so too the debate around its legalization. It's no longer a taboo topic as the number of people supporting such a move swells in the US. According to Gallup's October 2017 annual survey on cannabis, as many as 64 percent of respondents said they want to see pot legalized, an all-time record, according to some media outlets. The number of weed legalization supporters in the US has grown by almost 40 percent since 1995, when California became the first US state to legalize marijuana for medicinal use. Back then, only about 25 percent backed the idea to legalize the herb.

    Eight US states – Nevada, Maine, Colorado, Washington, California, Massachusetts, Alaska, and Oregon – have so far decriminalized the sale and possession of weed both for medical and recreational use. The District of Columbia also decriminalized the personal use of cannabis, but not its commercial sale. In total, 23 US states have laws that allow the use of marijuana for medicinal purposes to some extent. However, on a federal level, it is still illegal to possess, use, buy, sell, or cultivate marijuana.

    READ MORE: Canada could make a fortune from legalized pot

    Uruguay is currently the only country in the world which has fully legalized marijuana. The cultivation of cannabis was legalized in 2014, and its sale became legal in July 2017. Canada could possibly soon follow suit. The Cannabis Act was introduced in the Canadian Senate in late November. It is overwhelmingly backed by the general public and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and legislation is expected to be passed by July 2018, perhaps even earlier. The annual sales of weed in Canada is projected to range between $2.3 billion and $4.5 billion by 2021, according to the Marijuana Business Daily.

    And that's not counting all the money from nurseries , lighting companies , fertilizers , and on and on and on , a lot of jobs!?...
     
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    Krag Planet earth Platinum Bling

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    Wall Street bankers and hedge fund parasites will always drag the country down with their leeching and desperate measures.
     
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    8) Abolish Obama care.
     
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    We can't make America great again. The Jewish bankers and globalists have already caused the country's downfall.
     
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    This country will honestly never be great again, unless we find a way to undo the leftist indoctrination done by the so called education system and news/entertainment media. Then, we need to give people a true classical education in philosophy, history and western civilization, so they can understand why a constitutional democratic republic is the only form of government that ensures liberty. Then, somehow, we need to find a way to make people want to care about that system enough to fight for it.

    Then, there's honesty, integrity, truth, responsibility, accountability, honor, fidelity and a multitude of other virtues that have been trashed by the leftist bastards for several generations that somehow need to be restored in peoples minds. And rugged individualism. How to do all that???
     
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    Replace the current mass media/entertainment complex with a better one.
     
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    It would be awesome to have a national goal, however, with the current difficulty level in Watchingtown politics I doubt any singular goal could make it past caucus.

    For now, the splodey head meltdowns like those provided by Rosie will have to do.
     
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    None of what you mention will happen, the corruption has gone on too long and it goes from the municipal town level to the county, city ,state and Federal level, there are probably 2x the amount of government employees on the payroll as needed, we are headed down to the banana republic tier, I see no escape.


     
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    I wish I could argue with you, but we as a society have reached a height of acceptable depravity equating to a depth of corruption which was planned and executed over 100 years ago by long-plan globalists who want us all to be slaves in velvet shackles.

    So:

    9.) Repeal the 16th Amendment and reinstate a semblance of State's rights.

    10.) Repeal the 17th Amendment, abolish the income tax and release the REAL slaves from their velvet shackles.

    And:

    Watch fed.gov shrivel and shrink to more acceptable levels.
     
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    We have 11 votes that say America IS on Track to become great again (to just only 5 that say no).

    You would think that after the appointment of a GS insider to run the Treasury, that people would realize that is NOT the way to get back on track to become great again.

    You would think with the continuation of the Bush/Clinton/Obama military and MIC involvements overseas that people would see the truth for what it is.

    You would think that after 14 months of the current administration that people would recognize that NONE of the 10 or so bullet points above are anywhere near close to being even talked about, let alone ever happening and that this situation clearly shows that we have Obama #2 or Bush #4 in control over where America is headed, which is NOT becoming great again.

    But I guess if the definition of "great again" is increasing wars and cronyism, if it's increasing wealth for the top .01% and continuing decline in REAL future prosperity for the rest, then those 11 votes makes sense.
     
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    Actually the best way to restore the republic is to restore the original 13th amendment and get rid of all the fucking lawyers in government who run gov for their fiscal benefit, not yours. That's the big problem. Repeal of the 16th would help significantly to restore states sovereignty, but is not as important as getting all lawyers out of government. As to the 17th, all one needs is a set of cojones. Recognize the income tax for what it is...
     
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    I haven't voted yet because I reject the premise. Guy has only been in office a year and while he's accomplished quite a bit, I wouldn't say we're on the track to becoming great again, at least not yet. Forced at gunpoint I'd cast a vote in Trump's favor.

    I don't recall Trump saying he'd get out of all the stupid global war on a feeling crap, so not the least bit surprised that stuff has continued, though I imagine we'd have had even moar of it if the wicked witch had won.

    The tax cuts are good policy, the de-prioratization of "weather" as a threat to national security is good stuff. Save the silly Israel worship and the continuation of failed global warfare policies I'm pretty happy with Trump policy wise.

    ...however the REAL value of Trump has been something that he may never get legit cred for. That being his effects on the encroachment of cultural marxist crap. For smashing the peecee rubbish, hopefully for good, Trump's value is immense. This kind of push back against those trampling free speech & free association has been a sight to behold. Nobody sane would think that happens with that disgusting viper in the WH.

    Edit: Now I've voted yes just cuz FM is whining about 12 people voting yes. LOL
     
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    Sorry FunnyMoney, but Ron Paul is not the POTUS. Few, if any on this forum would not disagree with the ideals of which you list. But, this is not the world we live in. Given the choices, DJT has made America greater and will continue to do so. There will be wars because not everyone loves us. Over the past half century or more, there have been wars and conflicts that were needless. So at this point, there does need to be some reconciliation. Perhaps if we had a one government world there would be nobody to fight against.
     
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    Isn't that the snowflake communist socialist dream of utopia?

    Is that sarcasm?
     
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    Was not sarcastic at all. A one world .gov will never happen. Nor will a backed currency if not all use one. I have no delusions of a world that gets along.
     
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    Quoted for truth.

    Anyone who sells utopia is selling you dreams...
     
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    Sometimes a smack down is needed. Wait, isn't that what Gaddafi and Hussein got?
     
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    Allegedly. It's tough to keep score anymore since the US is constantly engaged in conflicts/police actions(not wars) but never seems to win any. Heck I've still not heard the final score with that Korean mix up that began in 1950.
     
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    One more thing we need to start is to limit all congress to one, at the most 2 terms. These folks get in there and dislodging them is major surgery. The majority of these are pathocrats, and we can reduce the damage they do by limiting their stay.
     
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    Why were we there?
     
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    To make bank for military contractors/banksters...you know, the usual.

    The official lie was to stop the spread of icky commies.
     
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    And making sure that every law they pass affects them, like us and giving them no benefits, after they leave office. They serve two terms, they're out and they're just another slob again, like we are.
     
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    Of course CONgress is a huge problem. They have a retirement and health care plan that doesn't reflect a republic nor a democracy.

    However, there is a lot the POTUS can do in his first month in office: Most of my list can be done, or greatly influenced in that direction, by the POTUS all by himself (with the support of the nation).

    But it hasn't been one month, it's been fourteen, can somebody wake you guys up to reality!
    I knew it would be like this with either Hillary or with Trump, I thought it would be worse with Hillary but I don't see any difference in terms of actually improving things.

    Trump has not tackled anything that would make America great again. His tax plan (give out some small checks to be offset by flaming the fires of inflation) and the other things he's done (decrease diplomacy, increase fighting) are on the fringes, they will expire and won't change anything for 99% of Americans, even if they don't.


    Here is my analogy for our current day criminal in charge:

    "We have a terrible problem, the car is fully totaled, Mr. Mechanic..."

    "No problem," says the mechanic, "I'll spend the next few years working on the radio, after that we can talk about the rest of the terrible problem YOU have."


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    You say it will never happen, but can you deny that we have been headed in that direction for the last 60 years and we are much closer to that objective?
     
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    We were/are being pushed in that direction. Still won't happen.
     
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    Too many players and too many pieces.
     
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    What do you think will break the mold? Are you selling "If we do absolutely nothing it will end up OK"?
     
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    Who's doing nothing?
     
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    Actually doing nothing, having nothing to do with them, as much as possible, is a good strategy. Hard to do since most have to deal with it for a living. It won't stop them, but the more and more folks have nothing to do with them will force faster change, one way or the other...
     
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    I see many here in full denial (there's currently 12 Yes votes). While all of my doubts dissolved in the month of Feb. 2017 about there being no way in the world Trump would be the "guy" to make America great again, still, I didn't post about it for the rest of the year. I wanted to see if any forum members would throw in the towel on a losing cause. I mean exactly how is a career criminal going to return a nation founded on justice and God given rights going to make the country great again when he believes minorities, women and disadvantaged people (including mentally and physically disabled) are there for us to mock and make fun of? His ideas about justice, liberty and personal responsibility (things which made this nation great to begin with) preclude him from being capable of making America great.

    I did not post for a long time as I waited to see if members would dump Trump into the trash heap of politicians like dumping a stock trade which repeatedly goes wrong. A year is a long time to stick to a losing position, don't you think?

    None of the major needs of our nation, which are listed in the OP and in subsequent replies, are anywhere near Trump's agenda. The recent tax changes, if they are any help at all, are nothing even close to moving the country toward greatness again.

    All the details are clear enough, even that walk thru of Ft. Knox was a poor effort at conning the people. Of course - all Trump's history has been the same, poor efforts at conning people. From Trump Univ. to his abuse of workers, it's always been his style to be a conman, and even a very poor one at that. He is a suck up to TPTB and in this for his self absorbed glory.,

    It't been a year, but who knows, it may take another 3 or more for Trump supporters to recognize the truth for what it is. Maybe they never will, just like those who stick by a stock as it falls toward zero and then into bankruptcy.
     
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    MUJ FOR PRESIDENT !!!!
    HE WILL MAGA !!!
     
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    You really thought for a minute DJT was the republic's savior? C'mon.
     
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    Savior? No...but all is not lost...

    [​IMG]

    The man is definitely doing damage to the right people. Hoping it continues.
     
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    End all entitlement programs immediately. Have everybody that wants them to reapply where they must use a government ID and pass a drug test. They must also participate in work, education or volunteer programs to get their checks.

    Require ID for voting. We should use the Mexican plan. Build a wall on the southern border too and end chain migration.
     
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