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Intro to Common Law ~ Bill Thornton

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    Bill Thornton is the owner and operator of www.1215.org

    You can contact him there.

    You can also get involved at NationalLibertyAlliance.org


     
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    I am a member of NLA.

    http://www.nationallibertyalliance.org/civicscourse


    Free Common Law Courses

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    https://redress4dummies.wordpress.com/common-law-rights/

    Common Law Rights

    It’s all about Property;

    Common Law Rights are based in Natural Law which is considered to be so fundamental that it can not be the subject of legislation. Some of these rights include the ‘Right To Travel‘ and the ‘Right To Face Your Accuser‘.

    As i find more time to research, i will add herein, more pages about these natural rights and Property.

    Thank you all for your support of and contributions to these pages.

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    All Rights are Property, there are no exceptions. We find this idea about property in The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united State of America – 1776 wherein we read;“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, …”

    i believe that life, liberty, happiness and even the “right to pursue” are all property.


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    Example: A man’s right to a relationship with his sons and daughters is as much a property as the sons and daughters. If this seems strange to you, it is because your education deprived you of the study of etymology. Click HERE for a great source of etymology.




     
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    I no longer endorse the NLA, because they refuse to operate in the common law jurisdiction and try to impose their law on/at the Federal Corporate court level. This can only get them in trouble.
    Read what Anna says:


    Anna von Reitz


    About me and the NLA: I TRIED to work with NLA early on. I also in good faith delivered a wet-ink signed and thumb-printed and sealed copy of our affidavit of probable cause to John Daresh, but nothing was done about our affidavit---which has been published as "You Know Something Is Wrong When....An American Affidavit of Probable Cause" available onAmazon.com.

    When I attempted to contact NLA regarding their silence and inaction with regard to the grave accusations of criminality our affidavit raised, they hung up on me. A couple weeks later, Mr. Gary Jolly, contacted me and said something inane like, "we know who you are and we don't trust you"--- as if this was an excuse for failure to address capital crime?

    I also rubbed them the wrong way when I revealed that the Common Law Grand Jury is only about one-fourth of the Common Law Court System we are owed, and without the Common Law Judges (properly called Common Law Justices) and Trial Juries and Clerks and other members of the Common Law Courts including the Sheriffs operating the land jurisdiction of this country, the Common Law Grand Juries have no enforcement capability. They can hand down their findings, and the "District Attorney" can ignore them, so that the entire effort goes astray and has no teeth.

    Therefore I pointed out the need to elect people to fill the other, additional vacated Public Offices we are owed and to re-established the American Common Law Court System that is supposed to be in place and acting in support of the Common Law Grand Juries. Mr. Daresh and Mr. Jolly would hear none of it.

    Three years have gone by with the Citizens Common Law Grand Juries being set up and spinning their wheels, accomplishing nothing much for all their work and good will. Meanwhile, those who waved good-bye to NLA and proceeded to set up their counties on the land and elect and fill the vacated Public Offices have made great strides. They are actively setting up and restoring County-level government and educating people all over this country, while NLA continues to accomplish.......what?

    As a result of all this, I have grave concerns about NLA's leadership. Some months ago, I heard that John Daresh is actually a Bar Attorney from New York named John Vidurek. So I asked him, up front, in good faith--- just wanting to know the truth of the matter. He refused to answer me, but he did answer Rodger Dowdell in Florida, that yes, this is so. His given name was John Vidurek and yes, he is from New York and yes, he is a Bar Attorney.

    To me, a Bar Card is a strong indicator that Mr. Daresh may not be operating in good faith.

    A second indicator is that he has adopted a nom de guerre that has nothing whatsoever to do with his real name.

    Third, why quote me out of context in a major Writ of Mandamus and not even bother to contact me, yet leave it seeming that I was involved? That doesn't add up, either.

    Fourth, why harbor vaguely stated and semi-threatening "suspicions" such as Gary Jolly expressed toward me? Honest men ask honest questions. They don't hide behind vague insinuations.

    A fifth concern about NLA leadership is the lack of progress by the CLGJ organizations in the states where NLA is in control of the CLGJ's compared to what is going on in other states where people have struck off and done it without NLA's "help and direction". These spin off groups are miles ahead in addressing the real problems we are facing.

    A sixth concern in NLA's failure to admit and educate people regarding the fact that the CLGJ's are just a part--- about one quarter-- of the Common Law Court System that we are owed and which we need up and fully functioning to give the CLGJ's both teeth and administrative support. How can you run a wagon train with one-wheeled carts?

    A seventh concern is NLA's complete lack of response to a signed, sealed, witnessed affidavit of probable cause that has been exhaustively researched and demonstrated. We brought forward damning evidence of immense, systemic, institutionalized fraud--- fraud against the Republic, fraud against the probate and bankruptcy courts, fraud against American States and American people---- and NLA puts the blinkers on and pretends it never heard a word?

    So we are supposed to ignore capital level crimes, including war crimes, being committed by foreign banks and their storefront organizations run as "governmental services corporations" because......? Why?

    If it is NOT the job of the CLGJ's to investigate crimes against Americans, just exactly what does Mr. Daresh propose that their job is? To stand around issuing pointless documents filled with ignorance and outrage so that his buddies down at the local Bar Association can have a good laugh?

    Daresh is a Bar Attorney. He knows better than to send a Writ of Mandamus to an Admiralty Court. He was playing everyone for laughs. He was saying, "Oh, look at this, boys! These people are SO clueless, SO dumb, that they are going to put their time and energy into doing this! Hahahahahah! --- And for EXTRA fun, I am going to sign Anna's name to it and take her work out of context, so everyone can laugh at her, too! Hahahahahahah!"

    I believe that many, many of the people in NLA are wonderful, patriotic, well-intentioned, and determined. I believe that the vast majority are trying in good faith to make a badly needed difference and to fill in a very necessary Public Office---- but I also believe that they are being purposefully limited and misguided by leaders who have their own contrary agenda, which is simply to keep the horse in the barn and not let the CLGJ's function as they could and ought to, and also prevent people from addressing the need to restore the ENTIRE American Common Law Court System which is owed and needed to make the work of the Common Law Grand Juries count.

    The way things are run under Daresh, you might as well be riding unicycles. It's entertaining, but without the other "wheels" of the American Common Law Courts in place---- the Justices, the Clerks, the Recorders, the Bailiffs, the Sheriffs operating on the land jurisdiction, and the Trial Juries----you are stuck, chasing around in circles without enforcement, wasting your time. Apparently, that kind of window dressing role is what Mr. Daresh wants. Just "be there" appearing to do something and creating an illusion of remedy, while in fact providing no real alternative to the Admiralty Court and Administrative Court System at all.

    If the CLGJ's were operating as they should, as part of the American Common Law Court System, they would hand down orders to a Sheriff operating on the jurisdiction of the land of this country, and the Sheriff would bring the orders to a Common Law Justice who would issue the warrants for arrest and to Public Prosecutors who would prepare the discovery subpoenas and complaints, and this would all wind up in front of a Jury of Twelve Honest Peers who would review the facts and hand down a decision for the Justice to read in open court on the record and execute. That is how it is supposed to work.

    As it is, the CLGJ's are misguided to function as laughingstocks for the Bar Members and spend their days making pleas to District Attorneys who ignore the CLGJ's just like they ignore everyone else, and writing Writs in Law addressed to Admiralty Courts that can't even hear a Land Writ.

    Sigh. So, there is my assessment of the current status of the CLGJ's and their role under the limitations imposed by John Daresh and NLA---- and right where they are is where they are likely to stay, in my opinion, until or unless people wake up a second time and realize that they are spinning their wheels at a moment in history when they ought to be making desperately needed progress.

    NLA could be instrumental in restoring the entire American Common Law Court System, in reviving and restoring the land-based government we are owed---- but that isn't where the NLA leadership has gone and that doesn't appear to be where they are going.
     
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    This is Anna's response to John Daresh
    http://annavonreitz.com/replytodaresh.pdf

    And the following is my response to "NLA" ---or rather, to John Daresh, who finally, after months of silence, decided to say SOMETHING to me..... His comments are clearly indicated, followed by mine:

    JOHN:

    The following is a response to the “Me and the NLA by Anna Von Reitz” posted at http://annavonreitz.com/meandnla.pdf on February 16, 2016. I will not reprint the post, readers can go to the posted page and read for themselves the claims. I will respond to each assault by bullet points. If you want to understand Anna Von Reitz’s unique perspective, and why NLA distanced itself from her ideologies, please read the additional postings on her site; http://www.annavonreitz.com/anchorbaby.pdf,http://annavonreitz.com/vettednotice.pdf

    Anna has never contacted me or any of the National Leadership on the phone. Therefore, no such opportunity to hang up on her was afforded. Although we have need to chastise a national NLA leader from time to time for rudeness, it has over time become extremely rare. All of NLA leadership is instructed to be polite and, cordial and although NLA holds to the commandment of repentance and forgiveness[5], if one of our leaders are unable to control themselves we will rank them down, and out of the public eye, that’s our policy.

    ANNA:
    I have called the National Headquarters and talked with people at least twice, including Gary Jolly. I believe I have the phone records to prove it. I definitely have the mailing receipts of contacts I have made, including the mailing that delivered the wet-ink, hand-signed, thumb-printed, and sealed affidavit of probable cause which has since been published as "You Know Something Is Wrong When.....An American Affidavit of Probable Cause" available to all on Amazon. com. Those who have read this affidavit will agree that it has been mammothly researched and honestly attested to, and I trust that I am not alone in being mystified as to why any American Common Law Grand Jury would FAIL to investigate a properly executed affidavit of probable cause alleging grand felony fraud, press-ganging, kidnapping, inland piracy and other crimes against the American people and our lawful government.

    JOHN:

    I spoke with Gary Jolly and he confirmed the only contact he had with Anna was by e-mail and in that email he requested to be removed from her mailing list.

    If there is a judge or justice in a common law court, it’s not a common law court. It is true that the proper name for our elected or appointed Jurist is Justice, it is also true that all Justices when sitting in a common law court hold the status of Magistrate to keep the case orderly and on point.

    ANNA:

    This is splitting fine hairs to no real purpose. The actual proper title for a Common Law Judge is "Justice of the Peace", just as the proper title of a Sheriff on the land is "Peacekeeping Officer"--- but that is neither here nor there. In actual practice, Sheriffs do their duties as Sheriffs and Justices of the Peace function as Judges, whether Magistrates or Superior Court Justices aka "Judges".

    JOHN:

    The District Attorney’s job is to prosecute in the practice of law, but they have no decision making authorities concerning cases, nor do they have the authority to make a deal after the Common Law Grand Jury indicts, the Common Law will not tolerate that.

    ANNA:

    Gee, well, then why is it that we have not seen ANY successful prosecutions actually bearing fruit if the DA is not exercising his "prosecutorial discretion" and ignoring the Common Law Grand Jury presentments?

    It has been at least two years. I see no movement. No action. No successful prosecutions of the many, many, many CRIMES that the the American people have suffered in the same time period--- and there must be an explanation for this that I am not seeing here. We have no dearth of crime and yet no prosecution.

    It looks to me like either (1) the Common Law Grand Juries have no teeth for precisely the reasons I stipulated in my article "The NLA and Me" or (2) despite the supposed intolerance of the Common Law Grand Juries for being ignored by the DA--- they are in fact being ignored and accomplishing little or nothing beyond spinning their wheels. Prove me wrong, John Daresh. Please publish the list of presentments that the Common Law Grand Juries have issued and a list of those cases that have been or are being prosecuted as a result?

    JOHN:

    The Common Law Grand Jury acts independently from the prosecutor and papers are filed directly with the clerk.

    ANNA:

    All cases are filed directly with the Clerk, so that's not enlightening. What we are interested in is lack of prosecution of serious crime. The job of a Common Law Grand Jury is to investigate crime either on its own initiative or upon being presented with an "information"---- which I certainly provided.

    JOHN:

    National Liberty Alliance was founded about three years ago and developed a realistic and lawful plan to save our Republic. Within that time period NLA has been successful in organizing the Nation and educating The People in Law, American History and Ethics, which was is a prerequisite necessity for accomplishing our goal to duly serve as the Unified United States Common Law Grand Jurists and Administrators.

    ANNA:

    In the Common Law System the courts are supported and created by Jural Societies at both the County and State level and Jural Societies are created by those who have claimed their proper political status and signed a Jural Oath. Since most of the people on this Continent have been mischaracterized and removed from the land jurisdiction and are considered "civilly dead" with respect to their birthright political status, they have no ability to form lawful Jural Societies nor can they operate the lawful courts owed to the Republic. It would be analogous to Spaniards pretending to be Irishmen and proposing to operate Irish courts.

    I have brought this to the attention of NLA to no avail. Nobody I know who has been involved in the NLA effort has gone through the process to re-establish their birthright political status and reconvey their name and estate to the land jurisdiction of the United States. Nobody in NLA that I have talked to has registered any understanding of Jural Societies. Nobody has shown any flicker of understanding when I asked to see their Jural Oath.

    This indicates either ignorance on the part of the NLA leadership or purposeful fraud against the institution and process. I would prefer to think they simply don't know what they are doing and I would be happy to help, but instead of evincing any willingness to learn anything, the policy of the NLA leadership--- similar to the policy of the current "administrators" of the governmental services corporations pretending to be our lawful government---is to ignore valid information to their detriment and dishonor.

    JOHN:

    We accomplished that goal by first reconstituting the “Common Law Grand Jury” in all 3133 counties by filing press releases within the counties inviting the People to gather and be introduced to the Common Law Grand Jury and give their vote of approval and the response across the Nation was overwhelmingly positive, averaging a 98% approval rating.

    ANNA:

    While people may have responded in some manner positive to the initiative it is a pure and honest fact that only a handful of those 3133 counties actually followed through by taking any action whatsoever to do the work involved and of those that did, owing to lack of proper instruction, it appears that NOBODY involved in the NLA effort: (1) reclaimed their proper political status and (2) formed a Jural Society and (3) signed a Jural Oath, so that for all their good intentions and hard work, not a thing they could do could be considered a valid Common Law action.

    JOHN:

    In order to rightfully establish a Unified United States Common Law Grand Jury we first established fifty Unified States’ Common Law Grand Juries as we continue to organize leadership in all 3134 counties. Each State possesses their-own Seal and mailing address. We then organized leadership in all Federal Districts in order to provide for federal administrations and provide for the monitoring of maintaining of the Principles of the King[6] of the court.

    ANNA:

    Again, these organizations, both at the county level and state level may exist on paper, but the evidence that they exist in fact, that they have been properly organized and documented,and that they are popularly understood and supported is totally lacking. The only "King's" Court in the Republic is owned and operated by the actual "free, sovereign, and independent" people of the United States. Their Federal Courts operate within the Federal Postal Districts established on the land, and are not the "same as" United States "Federal" Courts established and operated within "U.S. Districts" established in the international jurisdiction of the sea. These Federal Postal District Courts owed to the people and the unincorporated States of America are not to be confused with any form of United States Court currently in operation, but again, NLA seems confused about jurisdiction and forms of law.

    We, the people of the land jurisdiction of the United States, separated from the King (and the Queen) over 200 years ago, unlike the British-subject "inhabitants" who remained here to provide essential government services. As you can see from reading any version of the Constitution, the "federal government" under contract to provide nineteen essential services was NOT tasked with providing Common Law Courts and in fact there is no such thing as any General Common Law available to the federal government (Thompkins v. Erie Railroad). How then are the requirements of Amendment VII to be met?

    Answer: we, the living people, acting in our actual and proper political status, are supposed to be self-governing and are supposed to operate our own Jural Societies and our own American Common Law Court System ---- not "just" a Grand Jury, but the entire common law court we are owed---- Justices, Sheriffs, Bailiffs, Clerks, Trial Juries, Bondsmen, Coroner, etc.,

    That this is not apparent to NLA and the NLA leadership is a cause of grave concern. I have yelped and tugged at pants legs to no avail. In order for the actions of the Common Law Grand Juries to have meaning and teeth these organizations must be properly formed and operated as a lynch pin standing between a fully operative American Common Law Court System and the present United States Court System--- able to hand down presentments either to the land jurisdiction Common Law Courts or the sea jurisdiction United States Courts as the issues and subject matter may dictate.

    Otherwise, people are left functioning improperly in a foreign jurisdiction, subject to criminal complaint, and all their hard work goes for naught. Their Grand Juries are at best well-intentioned but totally ineffective vestigal organs, like a tail bone long after the tail is gone.

    JOHN:

    It is a wrongdoing to maintain a sitting Grand Jury indefinitely. The entire NLA membership (5000+) is a sitting Grand Jury for the sole purpose of dealing with subversion against the United States of America, after which the Unified United States Common Law Grand Jury will disband. All other cases will be referred to the respective county jury pools once the subversion problem is resolved and administrations are properly established.

    ANNA:

    The idea of a gigantic single sitting "Grand Jury" throughout the country is novel, but unsupported by historical practice or definition; the Republic (unincorporated states on the land and living people) is organized according to townships, parishes, counties, and states--- with Federal Postal District Courts operating on a regional basis---and The Supreme Court of the united States of America in Philadelphia--- but in all the history and case law I have read in the past fifty years there is no precedent for a national Grand Jury. And if the county level Grand Juries are not properly seated and composed of people who have reclaimed and reconveyed their names and estates to the land jurisdiction and organized Jural Societies and taken their Jural Oaths---- then obviously, any state level Grand Juries are not validly composed, either, and neither would a national level Grand Jury resulting from a promulgation of smaller errors be valid. If you start out wrong, you end wrong, and the entire sand castle is apt to be swept out to sea.

    JOHN:

    NLA is building Administrations composed of 4 People per county to serve as an investigative body for the Grand Jury, provide orientation for jurist, provide jurist counseling when requested, provide written forms of the jury’s will, and provide grand jury access for the People of the county.

    ANNA:

    The above speaks to the problem --- Common Law Grand Juries in this country arise from properly composed Jural Societies, not "Administrators" nor "Administrations" --- that's the language of the United States Court System operating in the international jurisdiction of the sea, not the American Common Law System owed to the living people and unincorporated states on the land. The whole idea that our justice system should rely on four self-appointed spies per county reporting back to a national webmaster is repugnant. The government of the land, the Republic, operates from the bottom up, not the top down, and it operates in the open, not as a secretive network of opinionated tattle-tales.

    The so-called sequestration of the Grand Juries and the relative inability of the people to access the Common Law Grand Juries is part and parcel of the problem we are trying to address. My complaint is a picture perfect example. Millions of people around the world have now read our affidavit of probable cause. More than six months have gone by since its publication and the presentation of its information to the NLA sponsored Common Law Grand Juries. If anyone is interested in quelling "subversion" and bringing an end to crime, then our affidavit provides more than enough factual information to justify investigation and action against the banks, attorneys, and politicians responsible for the current conditions--- but so far as I can tell, no action has been taken at all.

    Nobody from NLA has called me. No Grand Jury has summoned me to ask questions about our affidavit or request additional witnesses or testimony.

    JOHN:

    Today we have National name recognition, 100’s of thousands of followers (established by google analytics) over 5,000 members, 1,393 County Organizers, 115 State Coordinators, 105 Federal District Leaders, 7 National Coordinators, 11 Committees, and membership is growing exponentially.

    ANNA:

    It doesn't matter how many members, how much money and effort spent, or what kind of "name recognition" an organization has, if it is acting in error from the ground up, which NLA provably is. This could not be more plainly stated, demonstrated, or proven than by the lack of successful prosecutions. Our country is awash in criminal activity. If the Common Law Grand Juries were properly educated, organized, seated, and supported there should be thousands of cases in process and thousands of successful prosecutions. The total absence of prosecutions based on the Common Law Grand Juries and their efforts SHOULD be a clue to Mr. Daresh and everyone else.

    JOHN:

    Those who as Anna put it “waved good-bye” to NLA and joined her were former disgruntled members of NLA that were removed from our membership for being dishonorable and refused to repent.

    ANNA:

    Nobody "joined" me. I am not an organization. I am out here in Alaska doing the necessary groundwork to correct the political status of Americans who have been mischaracterized as Federal United States Citizens. That's ground zero---- bringing back the Americans to their natural birthright status on American soil, forming Jural Societies and from Jural Societies forming the missing American Common Law Court System we are owed. This is just plain common sense once you grasp the situation and the history and the facts. It's not an opinion. It's not "my" way versus someone else's way. And it is certainly NOT "dishonorable" or anything requiring "repentance". All the repenting that needs to be done is on the part of banks, lawyers, and politicians who have acted as criminals on our shores.

    JOHN:

    I am not a BAR Attorney

    ANNA:

    Well, thank you, Mr. Daresh for finally, unequivocably clearing that up. You could have saved everyone a lot of ear-twisting if you had simply said so when asked the question some months ago.

    JOHN:

    Like many People on the internet I have a pseudonym. I first signed up on the internet through AOL in about 1992 and the first thing I was asked to do when I signed up in those days was to choose a “screen name”, I chose John Darash. John is my Christian name and Darash which is a Hebrew word from the Bible meaning “diligent seeker of truth”. So I have been known as John Darash for almost 20 years. When I started working in Liberty Groups my wife was concerned about using our family name because I have always been controversial and she was concerned about “crazies” and she felt our family would have some protection.

    ANNA:

    I have used a pen name based on my family name, "Anna von Reitz" for even longer, Mr. Daresh, so I would have understood this explanation and so would most people. Again, you could have cleared it up a long time ago.

    JOHN:

    NLA quoted Anna in a federal paper because she gave an accurate picture of the fiction and we thought she was a real judge. We could not find a Judge Anna Von Reitz in Alaska and about six month ago we discovered that she was a self-appointed, self-elected judge trying to pass off a shadow government as a de jure government.

    ANNA:

    The Republic owed the living people and the unincorporated States of America is anything BUT a "shadow" government. It is the government of the land jurisdiction of this country and your ignorance together with that of your followers does not render it invalid. I am indeed an actual judge, but I am not a member of the Bar and I am not a member of the foreign court system of the Federal United States. There is a profound difference between the "Alaska State Superior Court" which operates on the land jurisdiction of this country and the "State of Alaska Superior Court" which does not.

    If you, Mr. Daresh, had ever sat down and read my sworn affidavit which was provided to you, you would know that: (1) no member of the Bar may serve in ANY Public Office of the Republic owing to self-evident Constitutional prohibitions against their participation in our government; (2) that almost all the courts presently in operation in this country are either private administrative tribunals of the federal corporation and its franchises or admiralty courts operating in international jurisdiction and that none of these courts operate under any form of American Common Law until and unless we invoke our own court of record and operate it ourselves; (3) I am an actual American Common Law Court Judge, aka, Justice, filling a vacated Public Office of the De Jure government owed to the living people and the unincorporated States of America, as an act of service to the people of Alaska and Americans at Large.

    Again, if you had bothered to read my affidavit, you would not be making these ridiculous assumptions about me, my standing, or my actions.

    JOHN:

    No one in NLA’s leadership has made any vague insinuations about anyone, furthermore the founders of NLA and all National Leadership is available every Monday evening in an open forum for three hours where anyone can ask any questions concerning our plan and behavior.

    Our papers that have been filed in all 94 Federal District courts define our work and our position concerning jurisdiction and Article III Courts.

    ANNA:

    Again, I am sorry to disabuse you, but Mr. Jolly did indeed make inexplicable insinuations about me to my face. He said, and I quote, "We know who you are and we are against you."

    Obviously, you DON'T know who I am or what I am doing, nor do you realize WHY I am doing what I am doing. If you did, you would not be making all these half-cocked statements and assumptions. I must assure you that I am not alone in my scholarship and findings and in fact, your organization is not the first nor the best-informed when it comes to the work at hand.

    The Michigan General Jural Society formed over twenty years ago and organized the unincorporated State of Michigan and continues to properly operate the County and State Jural Societies to this day. Their members, unlike yours, have properly declared their political status and settled their counties on the land and taken their Jural Oaths.

    If you were concerned about the Truth and the proper way to organize lawful county and state government operations for the de jure Republic, you could learn a lot from their past and ongoing efforts, but it is clear that you are close minded and not open to learning anything more or better than your own opinion.

    JOHN:

    What self-appointed Judge Anna Von Reitz, self-appointed Judge Bruce Doucette, self-appointed Judge Stephen Keno, self-appointed Judge Stephen Nalty, self-appointed Judge David Coffelt, Rodger Dowdell, Carl Swensson, Arnie Rosner, self-appointed Keith Post Master General, and self-appointed god graced Administrator Joaquin Folch, self-appointed marshals, governors, a president and other officers are creating is a quasi-shadow government that essentially advocates the overthrowing of the government.

    ANNA:

    What self-appointed comptroller John Daresh does not realize is that the people of this country actually are sovereign on the land---- NOT "sovereign citizens"---- that is an oxymoron, for one cannot act as a sovereign and a citizen at the same time nor in the same jurisdiction, but sovereign on the land jurisdiction of this country nonetheless.

    The people you have named are all honorable and unselfish and well-educated and well-informed Americans who have stepped forward into the gap left when all Public Offices in this country were vacated and "released" to the United Nations, as officially declared and explained in the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act and the International Organizations Immunities Act

    You and anyone else reading this may be certain that I and the others named are in fact Justices of the Common Law. If we were not, we would be arrested for impersonating Public Officials.

    As I have explained to others and as I will explain to you, when you incorporate anything it is immediately removed from the jurisdiction of the land and out from under the Law of the Land, including The Constitution, and it is instead operating in the international jurisdiction of the sea and under the Law of the Sea.

    That's what happened when first the Federal Government began operating as a corporation --- the District of Columbia Municipal Corporation to be exact--- and later, all the State and County governments also incorporated in order to receive "federal revenue sharing"----- that is, kick backs from unlawful and immoral federal corporation racketeering.

    Via the simple act of incorporating, all the Public Offices owed the people and the unincorporated States of America were transformed overnight into private corporate offices instead.

    The Sheriff on the Land became a Sheriff on the Sea. Instead of being a peacekeeping officer obligated to enforce the Law of the Land and the Public Law known as the United States Statutes at Large, he became a "law enforcement officer" obligated to enforce corporate codes, regulations, and statutes instead.

    This is just a small part of what you clearly don't know, don't understand, and aren't willing to learn.

    JOHN:

    18 USC §2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government - Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof,
    18 USC § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy - If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

    ANNA:

    Any "sedition" is on the part of those attempting to overthrow the lawful government of the people, for the people, and by the people. These "laws" that you are quoting, John, are Federal Code--- not Public Law, and the Federal Codes are a mere reflection of the actual United States Statutes-at-Large which safeguard our government on the land and which obligate the service and performance of the governmental services corporations under the tri-lateral treaty, national trust indenture, and service contract established by the actual Constitution known as The Constitution for the united States of America.

    That you would seemingly accuse me and these other honorable Justices of the Common Law of sedition while being ignorantly engaged in promoting fraud yourself and misleading others to take actions that they have not been properly prepared for is another example of wanton disregard for fact, history, and Law by the leadership of NLA.

    We are here operating in the open, for all to see, clearly declaring our understanding of who we are and what our government is and in which jurisdicition we are operating, allowing no one to mistake our political status, our standing on the land, and our intention. NLA meanwhile is operating a secretive "shadow government" itself, composed of unknown "administrators" acting as spies in each county, reporting back to some "national" organization styling itself as a Grand Jury of the Whole for which there is absolutely no precedent or justification.

    I leave people to draw their own conclusions.

    JOHN:

    As I said in the beginning of this paper “truth is sometimes brutal”. Because we are fully informed we are obligated to warn The People who do not understand that they are in danger. The forces driving the quasi-shadow government movement are Pied Pipers[7] who are either agent provocateurs[8] or just useful idiots[9] who speak of a new federation and writing another constitution and thereby are putting many good liberty minded People who are desperately seeking a solution to save America in jeopardy.

    ANNA:

    Truth is brutal, John, and the truth is that however well-intentioned you are, you are woefully misled and ignorant. You are in fact so far from being "fully informed" that you should just sit down in a corner and listen for several months to the people who ARE fully informed.

    There is no "quasi-shadow" government--- at least none that I am aware of. There is only our government which has been mis-administered for a very long time and which was left vacated when the various units of the state and county governments incorporated themselves as franchises of the federal corporation dba UNITED STATES, INC. and began operating in the foreign international jurisdiction of the sea.

    That may be all well and good for a corporation whose only responsibility is to provide nineteen "governmental services"---- but it is not sufficient as the government owed to the living people and unincorporated States of America known as the Union.

    Our Public Offices owed to the land jurisdiction of this country were vacated and we are now filling them. This is no act of "subversion"--- this is an act of restoration, plainly justified before the Hague, the United Nations Security Council, and the World Court. If you don't like it, John, that's too bad. The rest of us are not bound by your ignorance or opinions.

    JOHN:

    Additionally, because these dishonorable People have tried to appear as NLA by using similar seals and calling themselves a common law grand jury in order to ride the coat tails of our success. This has placed NLA members in jeopardy of arrest, being wrongly identified by news reports and law enforcement as part of the quasi-shadow government movement. It is for that reason we will be filing an Information making it clear that we are not part of the Anna Von Reitz “New Federation”.

    ANNA:

    I have never announced, participated in, advocated, or established any new "Federation". I have preserved the actual Constitution, which is an entirely different thing--- and that action, John, is in fact my lawful duty. Yours, too, if you had sense enough to recognize it.
    Nobody can complain that I have ever done anything but my duty -- which includes reporting crime to the Common Law Grand Jury. I did my part, as required by Law, but you and your organization have not. That is pure, simple, and factual for everyone to see.

    You assert that your organization is a "success" and that we are "riding on your coat-tails" somehow. You apparently think you have some thunder to steal, but I see no success in terms of performance in behalf of the people of this country. I see no successful prosecution of any of the ample crime in our midst as a result of your organization. I see no action taken to investigate the information contained in our sworn affidavit of probable cause.

    And if anyone is riding on any coat-tails, the Michigan General Jural Society and its worthy and correct effort to secure the Public Offices and land jurisdiction owed to the Michigan State and its people pre-dates your organization by at least twenty years. Time for you and anyone who is serious about re-settling your counties and states on the land and enjoying the freedom and government you are owed, to pay attention to what the Michigan General Jural Society has already accomplished and start following their template for real, actual, secure, and uncontroversial success.

    Obviously, the Michigan General Jural Society has been functioning unobstructed and openly and successfully for at least two decades and has not been subject to any threat of arrest or accusation of criminality and if the NLA is experiencing such problems those problems are caused by the ignorance of NLA leadership and lack of proper preparation, education, and support for the volunteers trying to organize a crucial --- but far from only component---of the government they are owed.

    To anyone who is sick and tired of the atmosphere of fear, incompetence, gossip and endless spinning of wheels offered by NLA and its leadership--- that is, anyone who really wants to restore the Republic and the lawful government we are owed--- I invite you to check out the Michigan General Jural Society and its proven and peaceful process to do exactly what needs to be done--- not only in terms of being able to set up a properly seated Common Law Grand Jury, but being able to set up a properly founded Jural Society and County Assembly to support it.

    Go to the http://anticorruptionsociety.com/ website where the MGJS Handbook called "From De Facto to De Jure" should now be posted and available for download.

    Forget about NLA and John Daresh. He obviously doesn't know what he is doing, and that is indeed a danger to the membership.---------------------------------------

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    Am I Worried About John Daresh, His Attacks and His False Charges? By Anna Von Reitz In a word---- NO. I am not worried by Daresh's desperate and wrong-headed accusations.

    Why am I not worried? 1. Since when is it a "crime" amounting to the creation of a "shadow government" to fill vacant Public Offices? 2. Show me where I have any kind of "organization" at all? What's it's name? Where are it's websites? Where are it's meeting places? Where is it's membership roster?

    John Daresh is the one claiming to have an organization of over 5,000 members, and a stated goal of having at least four spies in every county in America. Not me. 3. Show me where I am wrong about any of the history and public records I have presented which lead inexorably to the conclusion that I am right and Daresh is wrong?

    Rod Class and I and others have provided the proof that all our state offices and laws have been "vacated" so far as the US Congress is concerned since 1976. Read the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act (FSIA) and International Organizations Immunities Act (IOIA). I have also explained HOW that "vacating" came about. It happened when the state and county governments "reorganized" as franchises of the UNITED STATES, INC. in order to receive federal revenue sharing kick-backs.

    Any time you incorporate anything, it leaves the jurisdiction of the land and stops operating under the Law of the Land (including the Constitution) and operates under the international Law of the Sea instead. So all our Public Offices were instantly vacated in that process and became private corporate offices instead.

    Nobody told us about it at the time it happened (1950's and 60's) and the actions of Congress were not publicized, but now that we know, there is nothing stopping us from informing our Trustees at the United Nations (which we have already done) and going ahead and adopting our birthrighrt political status, filling the vacant Public Offices and restoring our unincorporated government on the land.

    There is no endangerment, insurrection, or subversion of any form of government owed the United States of America on my part, and our actions on the land are certainly not any of the business of the federal government operating on the jurisdiction of the sea.

    We have two separate organizations with separate jurisdictions, just as they always have been---one on the sea, one on the land, one private, one public, one federal and one state. This has been cut and dried for over 200 years, taught in every civics class and history class in America. 4. Show me where the "federal government" dba The United States of America, Inc., has any lawful jurisdiction related to me, other than being under contract to provide me and my unincorporated state with essential governmental services?

    Two decades ago and on the public record I declared that I am an American born on the land of Wisconsin and not any sort of Federal United States Citizen at all. This Matter of Fact has been blatted all over the planet for two decades and formally recorded in the Vatican Chancery Court. It is a Matter of Fact in international law.

    What does Mr. Daresh THINK The United States of America, Inc, has to say about my political status? Let me inform Mr. Daresh----- they dare not say one word. They are bound by the actual Constitution, the United States Statutes-at-Large, and the United Nations Treaties they have signed to regard my choice of political status as sacrosanct and mine alone. And if they fail to honor my choice, they shall be brought to trial as war criminals senselessly attacking an unarmed friendly vessel as pirates on the High Seas.

    At the same time I declared my political status I also revoked my election to pay federal income taxes in 1998 and by law CANNOT ever pay them again. At the same time, I informed the Social Security Administration that there had been a mistake, that I am not a federal employee, not a ward of any STATE, not seeking welfare benefits of any kind, not seeking political asylum, nor any other such rot.

    Since then I have reconveyed my property, including my name and vessels in commerce, to the land jurisdiction of the United States. I operate my private bank accounts using funds denominated in lawful money and function under complete commercial liability at all times as the naked owner of everything i am.

    If the federal corporation or any of its franchises or subcontractors address me when they are not spoken to, they will be in violation of both the actual Constitution and the United Nations Treaties they have signed onto.

    As I have recently learned the secrets of acting as a Bounty Hunter under their own 14th Amendment, I can operate my own Court of Record to fine them to the moon if they trespass against me and they cannot say or do a thing against my process because---guess what?

    On the land jurisdiction of this country, I really am sovereign.

    5. NLA is in fact unknowingly acting in insurrection against the government of the people, by the people, and for the people--- exactly what they have accused me of doing. Having not properly declared their political status, having not formed a jural society, having not formed any kind of unincorporated county government to operate the land jurisdiction, and having not taken any kind of jural oath, the NLA is operating in limbo as a rogue entity, neither fish nor fowl, neither federal nor state.

    There is no "General Common Law" available to the federal government --- as freely admitted by the U.S. Supreme Court in Thompkins v. Erie Railroad. The only form of "Common Law" that is available to the federal government is international Martial Common Law, and that cannot be mistaken or misrepresented as American Common Law.

    Apples are not oranges. No Common Law Grand Juries operating at the county or state levels can operate as federal corporate franchise entities and at the same time pretend to invoke the Fourth Branch of our land-based government.

    Such actions are neither lawful nor legal---- not lawful because only people actually possessing and declaring their birthright political status can operate our government on the land and invoke American Common Law Grand Juries, and not legal, either because PERSONS are not allowed to operate our government on the land and they commit acts of fraud and insurrection by pretending that they do.

    Put another way--- the Fourth Branch of our lawful government is operated by living people under American Common Law. It is not operated by PERSONS operating under international Martial Common Law----and in the absence of a proper declaration of political status, this is the only option available to members of the NLA.

    Thus from either side of the fence, the NLA is not operating in any proper or honest capacity. NLA is bound to get into trouble as a result. Either the federal corporation will crack down on them for not being legal, or the actual government will crack down on them for pretending to be lawful. And in no case can they fulfill the rightful function of the Fourth Branch of our government going at it as they have, which no doubt accounts for the fact that they have been unable to gain traction and recognize and prosecute actual crimes.

    6. Last but not least, no federal corporate officer in his right mind at any level is going to address me. As they are all operating in private corporate offices, they are all subject to the Clearfield Doctrine and international Law of the Sea. They have no immunity and don't operate the sovereign unincorporated State of Alaska on the land--- a fact that they would be forced to admit under cross-examination. The Bar Members among them, which is most of them, are especially vulnerable and accountable, because they are provably and objectively foreigners on our soil and if they take any part in prosecuting me via mischaracterization of my declared political status they will be subject to very, very serious international war crimes charges before the World Court including press-ganging, fraud, inland piracy, unlawful conversion, breach of trust, enslavement and kidnapping.

    Venal as many lawyers and politicians are, I don't know any who would care to face those counter charges in my Court of Record nor any of the international venues at my disposal.

    NLA like THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, INC. itself is an evil organization that is staffed almost entirely by good people ---good people who don't know that they are doing anything wrong and who aren't being properly informed or guided. Please take it to heart---- it is I who am worried for NLA members.

    NLA Members are sitting ducks because they don't have their ducks in order and their leadership won't learn enough to lead them in the way they need to go. The Pied Piper responsible for this is John Daresh, not me. My advice to NLA and all the various Common Law Grand Jury organizers and members remains the same---- check out the information available from the Michigan General Jural Society as regards organizing your grand juries properly. Their process has been vetted by the military and in use for many years.

    As soon as they finish tweaking their latest Handbook it will be widely distributed and available. As for straightening out your own political status issues I suggest that everyone go first to www.freesovereignandindependent.com for a bird's eye view of how this mess got started and why your separate birthright political status matters, then go to Kurt Kallenbach's website to learn how to reclaim and reconvey your name and other assets back to the land of your birth.

    This is a peaceful, non-violent and proper matter of learning how your government is supposed to operate and then operating it, not anything revolutionary or even controversial. The United States Congress (as opposed to the United States in Congress Assembled) made the United Nations the Trustee responsible for safeguarding our security and our Public Offices and our state law and our assets.

    As beneficiaries of our national trust, it is our responsibility to inform these Trustees of our wishes and to make it clear that administrators of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, INC. and the UNITED STATES, INC. have acted in criminal deceit, collusion, and breach of trust to mischaracterize us and defraud us of our birthright, that we are the Priority Creditors of these corporations, and that we insist that our Organic and Public Law be honored with respect to us and our property.

    Start there and go forward. If Mr. Daresh goes mad with frustrated desire to control everyone and everything and suffers an inability to read --- that's his problem.
    If he wants to mistake the lawful government owed to the land jurisdiction of this country as a "shadow government" while attempting to operate a national spy ring and a "national grand jury" himself, let him.

    If he wants to tell lies about me all day long, let him, too. It won't avail him any more than it has availed many others. .
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