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Obama DHS Buys 2,700 Lt Armored Tanks To Go With Their 1.6B Bullets

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  1. searcher

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    Obama DHS Purchases 2,700 Light-Armored Tanks to Go With Their 1.6 Billion Bullet Stockpile

    Posted by Jim Hoft on Sunday, March 3, 2013, 9:55 PM





    This is getting a little creepy.
    According to one estimate, since last year the Department of Homeland Security has stockpiled more than 1.6 billion bullets, mainly .40 caliber and 9mm.
    DHS also purchased 2,700 Mine Resistant Armor Protected Vehicles (MRAP).
    [​IMG]
    Modern Survival Blog reported:
    The Department of Homeland Security (through the U.S. Army Forces Command) recently retrofitted 2,717 of these ‘Mine Resistant Protected’ vehicles for service on the streets of the United States.
    Although I’ve seen and read several online blurbs about this vehicle of late, I decided to dig slightly deeper and discover more about the vehicle itself.
    The new DHS sanctioned ‘Street Sweeper’ (my own slang due to the gun ports) is built by Navistar Defense (NavistarDefense.com), a division within the Navistar organization. Under the Navistar umbrella are several other companies including International Trucks, IC Bus (they make school buses), Monaco RV (recreational vehicles), WorkHorse (they make chassis), MaxxForce (diesel engines), and Navistar Financial (the money arm of the company).
    DHS even released a video on their newly purchased MRAPs.
    Via Pat Dollard:

    [video=youtube_share;0pS9aw5pcJo]http://youtu.be/0pS9aw5pcJo[/video]






    - See more at: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...illion-bullet-stockpile/#sthash.i4slGsuK.dpuf
     
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    Re: Obama DHS Buys 2,7000 Light Armored Tanks To Go With Their 1.6 Billion Bullets

    Hint! Coming to a church near you soon?
     
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    Re: Obama DHS Buys 2,7000 Light Armored Tanks To Go With Their 1.6 Billion Bullets

    A little creepy? They're outright ready to declare war on the American people!
     
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    Re: Obama DHS Buys 2,7000 Light Armored Tanks To Go With Their 1.6 Billion Bullets

    Tougher than old stale pumpernickel? Yes. Tanks? No.

    Even the toughest old turtle looks silly on it's back baking in the sun. Can you say Willy Pete?
     
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    Re: Obama DHS Buys 2,7000 Light Armored Tanks To Go With Their 1.6 Billion Bullets

    The APCs are just to help with Firearms Training, see the gun ports. YEP just for training [sarc].

    It don't take Einstein to figure out this government is scared to death of the American people. They know that We the People know the goobermint is up to NO GOOD.

    USSA : Coming to Your Town or City SOON!

    Gb
     
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    Re: Obama DHS Buys 2,7000 Light Armored Tanks To Go With Their 1.6 Billion Bullets

    I refuse to fear, but what gets most of my attention is how proud he is........ does he have any idea what they will tell him to do or was that taken care of with the brain washing he has had.
     
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    Re: Obama DHS Buys 2,7000 Light Armored Tanks To Go With Their 1.6 Billion Bullets

    Could very well be. This is the first time in the history of the US that the government has actually done anything like this. And it sure-as-sh-t ain't for any good reason. The one thing I don't understand is that there is no major out cry or investigation by the congress or senate into this. And the MSM sure isn't doing anything to let Mr & Mrs America know what's going on. Not a good happening.
     
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    Re: Obama DHS Buys 2,7000 Light Armored Tanks To Go With Their 1.6 Billion Bullets

    One would think that those "freedom loving, free marketeers" of Capitalism would be a bit curious as to why their government would need to arm a domestic force in such a manner.....nah, it's all about the profits baby, and as long as they're doing good, fuk the rest. Capitalism.
     
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    Re: Obama DHS Buys 2,7000 Light Armored Tanks To Go With Their 1.6 Billion Bullets

    You're an ass.

    As if the gov't. couldn't build these without capitalism. This has nothing to do with the "free market".

    You occasionally display some intelligence, and as such, you should be fully aware that our system is not a free market system.

    You may respond in full force with the knowledge that I will not. I will not waste my time on you.
     
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    Re: Obama DHS Buys 2,7000 Light Armored Tanks To Go With Their 1.6 Billion Bullets

    The Tanks says "Immigration and Customs Enforcement" on the side. We know damned well they have no intention of enforcing our borders. The tanks were purchased for the purpose of killing anyone who resists the New World Order.
     
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    Re: Obama DHS Buys 2,7000 Light Armored Tanks To Go With Their 1.6 Billion Bullets

    Ya'll know how to make thermite don't ya? It's real simple and will stop a tank...
     
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    Re: DHS Purchases 2,700 Light-Armored Tanks

    The "Street Sweeper"......here to protect and serve.......(somebody other than us).
     
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    Re: Obama DHS Buys 2,7000 Light Armored Tanks To Go With Their 1.6 Billion Bullets

    Yes, I am an Ass, but that's not the issue.

    The issue is:

    There is absolutely no legitimate reason for government to arm a domestic force in such a manner.

    There is absolutely no legitimate reason for The Capitalist who made the "free market" choice to supply government with the tools of domestic repression to supply them.

    The government didn't hold a gun to their heads and forced them to supply those products.

    All they had to do is just say no, but they didn't.

    They chose profits over Liberty, which makes them, domestic terrorists and traitors.
     
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    Re: Obama DHS Buys 2,7000 Light Armored Tanks To Go With Their 1.6 Billion Bullets

    When Carl uses the word, "capitalism," he isn't referring to "free markets," but "corporatism."
     
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    I knew what you meant Carl.

    You were sarcastically referring to the fascist/corporatist aparachik.

    I like sarcasm.
     
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    Re: Obama DHS Buys 2,7000 Light Armored Tanks To Go With Their 1.6 Billion Bullets

    And they think we need to pay more taxes so they can buy whatever they want to force us to pay more taxes...... F UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU !
    I blame no one for going off grid & tryign to live a peaceful life.
     
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    Capitalism, Corporatism, Fascism = All The Same Thing.

    Free/Private Enterprise can only adapt to government sponsored Capitalist exploitation so far, until almost all enterprise is driven out of the markets it created, and all you're left with are giant corporations and EBT cards.
     
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    Re: Obama DHS Buys 2,7000 Light Armored Tanks To Go With Their 1.6 Billion Bullets

    " I'm from the government and I'm here to help !!!!"

    WHO ????
     
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    The PTB do not necessarily require taxation in order to implement their totalitarian agenda, since they can and do conjure e-FRNs from the ether, but they DO require income taxation in order to properly gauge the level of support for their agenda.

    Akin to an LEO quitting due to moral issues within a corrupt system, it is the duty of a moral and ethical individual to resist tyranny by any and all peaceful means.

    Income tax protestation is one peaceful means of protest against the beast system, and I can assure you dogmatically and experientially, that once an individual exercises such a protest, the beast will lash back violently (starvation is one form of social violence), but its not like we weren't warned ahead of time, and poking sharp sticks can at times be quite entertaining.

    Revelation 13:16-17
     
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    Re: Obama DHS Buys 2,7000 Light Armored Tanks To Go With Their 1.6 Billion Bullets

    Your tax dollars at work...


    They'll sell us the rope we will hang them with...:hmmmm2:
     
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    Cannot stop the Military Industrial Complex,
    big bizness, contracts to fill, complete, etc.
    New output, over runs, excesses, orders left to fill....that stock and output has gotta go somewheres.
    They have lobbyists, terms and conditions, financing,
    and now no Iraq, and a simmering Afghanamastan and some junk started but not in full swing...
    Where else is there for the hardware to go ?
    Bigger and badder and better, LOL, coming to your city county and state.
    Gotta love it....makes you feel real safe don't it ?
    :hmmmm2:
     
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    They are ALL like that! My Brother In Law is a retired Cop/SWAT member. It's all EGO! These guys don't care what their job is that day, as long as someone has given them the order to kill if necessary. They don't have a problem with anything, as long as "Someone Else" told them to do what they did. That's how they justify their actions! They are Maggots!!!
     
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    I love it how everyone is now an elite commando.

    Take a close look at the double digit IQ moron in the video and his "SRT" shoulder patch (which I think stands for Special Response Team). Wasn't "team guys" reserved for only the Seals or Delta force in the old days?

    It holds 14 "operators". Is every mall cop, night watchman, or rental cop now classsified as an "operator"?

    All that military terminology, against the backdrop of a Federal Vehicle with the word "POLICE" stenciled on the front.

    I think they should have instead stenciled "Tactical elite special operators / team guys assualt vehicle"
     
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    QWAK,You can't take it out with conventional weapons BUT :hmmmm2: if it gets hit with a bucket of paint so the driver can't see it aint going NO WARE either!:idea::thumbs_up::23_28_100s::cheerful:

    What is the max range of a paint ball gun? :hmmmm2:

    Perhaps (?) a small DRONE with a paint ball gun could be an effective counter to that bad boy?:hmmmm2:

    the DUCK :s9:
     
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    Re: Obama DHS Buys 2,7000 Light Armored Tanks To Go With Their 1.6 Billion Bullets

    LEO's and Federal employees are SELECTED for precisely the intellectual and personality characteristics you describe. The media doesn't ever report that police applicants are turned down for a job if their IQ is over a certain amount. There is a reason for all this.
     
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    "ONE THIRD OF OUR SUBJECTS WILL KEEP THE REST UNDER OBSERVATION"

    "ONE THIRD OF OUR SUBJECTS WILL KEEP THE REST UNDER OBSERVATION out of sense of duty".

    That was written 100 years ago. How prophetic can you get?

    http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm
     
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    Gotta have some fire power, when they go after Pop-Tart owners.

    If it isn't pop-tart owners, it will be some other enemy of the state. More like a political enemy of the state.
     
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    By\buy the numbers: length of U.S. Mexico border; 1,969 miles, length continental U.S. Canada border; 3,987 miles (Alaska Canada not included) Alaska Canada border 1538 miles. Total U.S. Canada border: 5,525 miles..... Total continental U.S. Mexico Canadian border; 5.956 miles.... Total continental U.S. Mexico Canadian border plus Alaska Canadian border; 7,494 miles...... 2700 tanks = 1 per every 27 miles of border.... next reliabilty must also be considered..... if 20% (540) are always in maintenance there would be 2160 tanks operationally ready..... 2700 tanks equally distributed amongst the 50 states equals each state receiving 54 tanks...... There are 285 cities with populations that exceed 100,000 inhabitants, 2700 tanks \285 = 9+ tanks per municipality source: http://www.bizjournals.com/bizjourn...umber-of-cities-with-six-figure.html?page=all, The 2010 census reveals that there are 41 U.S. counties & 9 cities with populations that exceed 1 million persons.... Here is the current national top 10 on the combined city-county list: 1. Los Angeles County, Calif, 9,895,120 2. New York [city], 8,462,198 3. Cook County, Ill., 5,293,530 4. Harris County, Texas, 4,203,359 5. Maricopa County, Ariz., 4,184,736 6. Los Angeles [city], 3,855,751 7. San Diego County, Calif., 3,099,586 8. Orange County, Calif., 3,061,757 9. Chicago [city], 2,859,554 10. Kings County, N.Y., 2,589,263 http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/news/2011/02/01/50-us-counties-and-cities-surpass-1.html If the tanks are divided equally among the top 50 counties & cities, each would receive less than 6 tanks to control populations exceeding 1 mm persons..... 2700 tanks sounds like a lot.....but the numbers actually tell a different story.... The ? really is how many tanks will be deployed per capita.... seems reasonable to assume some will be operated on the U.S. Mexico & Canada borders.... the remaing deployed in major population centers around the country.....
     
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    These are some awesome 30,000 lb beasts. Probably many more coming as Afghanistan winds down.I did have the opportunity to inspect a few, inside and out.....a lot were shipped to England about 6 months ago.I can say, if turretless( there are provisions for a turret), I felt as if I was in a jail cell, if the door did not open, it could be one hell of a secure prison......the door was so heavy it was air assisted open.....
     
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    QWAK,917601,Sounds like a realy big "HAVE A HEART live trap" for people on wheels! :idea::cheerful:

    the DUCK :s9:
     
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    Good thing I have one.......well sort of

    Check my avatar,an M35. Get's a pass and wave by all LEO's etc.I wear my blue
    coveralls and I look like something official....but I'm not.

    Camouflage for civilians.

    Weak point for those rigs is the tires.
     
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    Purchased to serve warrants in high risk neighborhoods...yeah right. they need 2700 of these things because all over the country cops are getting killed because they serve warrants - total nonsense.

    Paint in a super soaker or water balloon would really make driving difficult :s9:
     
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    QWAK,REO 54,The tires are 800 lb runflat tires.:thumbs_down:

    the DUCK :s9:
     
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    Sorry Duck,the cvst system does not get high ratings. Using super singles on a rig
    may make sense for cost,but not for function .
    Ten tires turning !
     
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    Re: Obama DHS Buys 2,7000 Light Armored Tanks To Go With Their 1.6 Billion Bullets

    I agree with you, most all of the big corps are domestic terrorists and traitors. They will sell out their mother for a buck and many on this site would buy stock to make a buck in a corp that would gladly kill off their family for a few more bucks.

    They near all choose profits over liberty.
     
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    QWAK,It always comes down to PRIORITIES -- what people decided to spend what resorces they have on buying and WHY they decide what they need to buy!:idea:

    The government and all burocracies have as there #1 priority, to protect and grow the burocracy! :thumbs_down:

    The stated purpose that they tell the public always sounds good plausable and benine BUT every single time they get the least little bit of power and authority surendered to them --- they waist much if not most of what they get --- trying to get MORE and justify (?) doing so by saying that the problem they were trying to fix was or is now biger than it was!:hmmmm2::realmad:

    Each new RUEL they impose makes more people in to CRIMINALS who are just people who can't cope with the new ruels and restrictions!:idea::cry_smile:

    Ultimitly they will make FEMA CAMPS seem like SALVATION from what TPTB created!:realmad::thumbs_down::cry_smile:

    the DUCK :s9:
     
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    Obama's Admin. is paying for these by cancelling the contract or slowing ( you decide) for the Bradley Fighting Vehicle.

    http://clashdaily.com/2013/03/breaking-obama-administration-discontinues-the-bradley-tank/

    I'm willing to bet a Follow the Money senario. Bradley is/ was a NeoCon - Military Industrial Complex production, plus just the name "Bradley Fighting Vehicle" rolling on U.S. cities and streets automatically gets the average Joe thinking The WAR is now at home.

    "MRAP" does not have a wide spread public relations( familiarity) base compared to the Bradley. I'm willing to bet the money trail for the MRAP goes back to politically Progressive Controlled pockets too.

    The good news is - Some Defense Money is coming Home. ( In a way we probably will not like).

    JMO,
    Gb
     

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