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William Binney, Ray McGovern and Other Intel Experts Call Russian Hacking Allegations ‘Baseless’

Discussion in 'Politics Forum (Local/National/World)' started by Goldhedge, Dec 13, 2016.



  1. Goldhedge

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    William Binney, Ray McGovern and Other Intel Experts Call Russian Hacking Allegations ‘Baseless’
    Posted on Dec 13, 2016

    In a letter published on Consortium News regarding claims circulating that Russia interfered in the recent U.S. elections, the group Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) penned a powerful rebuke of the narrative being spread. Signed by retired intelligence officials William Binney, Mike Gravel, Larry Johnson, Ray McGovern, Elizabeth Murray and Kirk Wiebe, the memorandum offered a bold rethinking of the alleged “hack” because “given what we know of [the National Security Agency’s] existing capabilities, it beggars belief that NSA would be unable to identify anyone—Russian or not—attempting to interfere in a U.S. election by hacking.”

    Here’s an excerpt:


    In what follows, we draw on decades of senior-level experience – with emphasis on cyber-intelligence and security – to cut through uninformed, largely partisan fog. Far from hiding behind anonymity, we are proud to speak out with the hope of gaining an audience appropriate to what we merit – given our long labors in government and other areas of technology. And corny though it may sound these days, our ethos as intelligence professionals remains, simply, to tell it like it is – without fear or favor.

    We have gone through the various claims about hacking. For us, it is child’s play to dismiss them. The email disclosures in question are the result of a leak, not a hack. ... The bottom line is that the NSA would know where and how any “hacked” emails from the DNC, HRC or any other servers were routed through the network. This process can sometimes require a closer look into the routing to sort out intermediate clients, but in the end sender and recipient can be traced across the network.

    The various ways in which usually anonymous spokespeople for U.S. intelligence agencies are equivocating – saying things like “our best guess” or “our opinion” or “our estimate” etc. – shows that the emails alleged to have been “hacked” cannot be traced across the network. Given NSA’s extensive trace capability, we conclude that DNC and HRC servers alleged to have been hacked were, in fact, not hacked.

    The evidence that should be there is absent; otherwise, it would surely be brought forward, since this could be done without any danger to sources and methods. Thus, we conclude that the emails were leaked by an insider – as was the case with Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning. Such an insider could be anyone in a government department or agency with access to NSA databases, or perhaps someone within the DNC.

    Read the full statement on Consortium News.

    http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/william_binney_ray_mcgovern_intel_experts_russia_hacking_20161213#.WFAzCLodIyg.facebook
     
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    Judge Andrew Napolitano Stresses The FACT That The NSA KNOWS Russia DID NOT Interfere With The Election!

    by Pamela Williams

    On FOX NEWS last night Judge Andrew Napolitano thoroughly explained the situation that we are dealing with concerning the propaganda “Russia interfered or hacked the election in favor of Donald Trump”. He says it is absolutely untrue, and that President-elect

    Trump KNOWS IT. He further stated that the NSA also knows this is simply “fake” news being spread throughout our system.

    [​IMG]

    I want to get this straight, because I know some of you will not be able to watch the video.

    1. There is a distinct difference between “leaking” and “hacking”. Hacking occurs when a foreign party penetrates the fiber optics of a system, and alters the integrity of that system without those in the system knowing it. There was no hacking done within the 2016 election. Donald Trump won the election, because the American people voted for him.

    2. A leak occurs when someone within a body…such as the Clinton campaign…releases actual information…in this case from the DNC, emails of Hillary Clinton, and John Podesta. In other words, someone within the Clinton camp, or someone within the Intelligence community transferred or leaked emails to WIKILEAKS.

    3. The NSA is the gatekeeper into the entire communications of our technical world. They know themselves that no hacking was done by Russia or any foreign body on this planet during the election. Again, the outcome of our 2016 election is pure and unpenetrated by hacking.

    4. The FBI found no evidence of tampering within the election. The CIA is up the creek without a paddle. They have gotten themselves into a situation where they have based their conclusion of “Russian interference in the election” on the same body of intelligence which the FBI also used. Now they are being pushed to present evidence of what they are claiming. The lawmakers on Capitol Hill are in the midst of investigating the CIA secret report. In fact, Senator Lindsey Graham and John McCain are planning a trip abroad to further investigate. They did receive a briefing from the CIA, which in my opinion makes no sense whatsoever. They know the evidence is not there if they have a brain in their head.

    5. The FBI works with true evidence, but the CIA works with conclusion. They do not work very well together, although after the attacks of 9/11 they were told to do so.

    6. Judge Napolitano says the leaks were an inside job. The Intelligence Community feared working under a possible Hillary Clinton Presidency, due to the fact she let classified information leak from her unsecure home server. She leaked actual names of agents in the field…some are no longer with us.

    7 There 16 bodies of intelligence factions within our Government. Anyone of these could have leaked communications from the Clinton campaign and the DNC.

    I hope I got all of that right. If there is anyone within the judicial system that I trust, it is Judge Napolitano. Realizing the criminality of what is being done to American democracy,by those who are representing that democracy, is beyond the comprehension of decent people. End of commentary.

    Judge Napolitano is the youngest life-tenured Superior Court judge in the history of the State of New Jersey. While on the bench from 1987 to 1995, Judge Napolitano tried more than 150 jury trials and sat in all parts of the Superior Court — criminal, civil, equity and family. He has handled thousands of sentencings, motions, hearings and divorces. For 11 years, he served as an adjunct professor of constitutional law at Seton Hall Law School, where he provided instruction in constitutional law and jurisprudence. Judge Napolitano returned to private law practice in 1995 and began television broadcasting in the same year.

    Judge Napolitano has published nine books including: “Constitutional Chaos: What Happens When the Government Breaks Its Own Laws”; The New York Times Best Seller, “The Constitution in Exile: How the Federal Government Has Seized Power by Rewriting the Supreme Law of the Land”; “A Nation of Sheep”; “Dred Scott’s Revenge: A Legal History of Race and Freedom in America”; and “Lies the Government Told You: Myth, Power, and Deception in American History,” also a New York Times Best Seller. His most recent book is titled: “Suicide Pact: The radical expansion of Presidential Powers and the Lethal Threat to American Liberty.”

    His writings have also been published in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Los Angeles Times, The St. Louis Post-Dispatch, The New York Sun, The Baltimore Sun, The (New London) Day, The Seton Hall Law Review, The New Jersey Law Journal and The Newark Star-Ledger. He lectures nationally on the Constitution and human freedom.

    http://www.foxnews.com/person/n/andrew-napolitano.html
     
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    That's all CNN has for ratings and I cannot even watch the rebuttal on Fox.
     
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    TAEZZAR LADY JUSTICE ISNT BLIND, SHES JUST AFRAID TO WATCH Midas Member Site Supporter

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    DNC Russian Hackers Found!

    You Won’t Believe Who They Work For

    By the Anonymous Patriots
    SOTN Exclusive

    Russians did not hack the DNC system, a Russian named Dmitri Alperovitch is the hacker and he works for President Obama. In the last five years the Obama administration has turned exclusively to one Russian to solve every major cyber-attack in America, whether the attack was on the U. S. government or a corporation. Only one “super-hero cyber-warrior” seems to “have the codes” to figure out “if” a system was hacked and by “whom.”

    Dmitri’s company, CrowdStrike has been called in by Obama to solve mysterious attacks on many high level government agencies and American corporations, including: German Bundestag, Democratic National Committee, Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), the White House, the State Department, SONY, and many others.

    CrowdStrike’s philosophy is: “You don’t have a malware problem; you have an adversary problem.”

    CrowdStrike has played a critical role in the development of America’s cyber-defense policy. Dmitri Alperovitch and George Kurtz, a former head of the FBI cyberwarfare unit founded CrowdStrike. Shawn Henry, former executive assistant director at the FBI is now CrowdStrike’s president of services. The company is crawling with former U. S. intelligence agents.

    Before Alperovitch founded CrowdStrike in 2011, he was working in Atlanta as the chief threat officer at the antivirus software firm McAfee, owned by Intel (a DARPA company). During that time, he “discovered” the Chinese had compromised at least seventy-one companies and organizations, including thirteen defense contractors, three electronics firms, and the International Olympic Committee. He was the only person to notice the biggest cyberattack in history! Nothing suspicious about that.

    The entire article is here, at the source:

    http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=62536
     
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    Neo-con pedaphiles and CIA scum are pushing this hacking shit even more than the democrat pedaphiles. They are pissed Putin bombed the crap out of their ISIS friends in Syria.
     
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    Funny because my local paper ran an AP story with the headline "U.S. Report: Putin ordered effort to help Trump, hurt Clinton". The report details how the gov mad its first formal allegation of the claims on Friday and how Trump has been briefed.

    The majority of the people of the world will believe this story. Its in papers across the land and the TV says so. People will refuse to believe they are being lied too.
     
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