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You are speaking to yourself Bob.

Really, thats the best come back you are capable of producing? Oh so creative & original... but I wouldnt expect any less!
 

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Luciferianism works like communism or socialism. It is a slick marketing trick - a sales pitch designed to fool people into thinking it is noble and good. The problem is what follows. With communism, no matter how noble the poor fools who implement it believe they (and their system) are, it always ends up with a handful of tyrants ruling over impoverished masses.

The same is true of Luciferianism. You believe that you are not worshipping Satan, that this belief system is good and noble - that all who follow the path are learning to become good - ascending the pathway to eventual Godhood through hard work, meditation, and ascetism. But it's a lie. What else do you expect from the devil?

What always follows from this belief system is men who seek power and believe they can or have become Gods. Philosphically it inevitably leads to consequentialism and away from deontologicalism. And men who accumulate power and believe in their own Godhood always fall into corruption. And societies ruled by men who believe in a system of consequential ethics inevitably descend into corruption even if the rulers do not believe they are Gods (the two types of corruption are separate but related). That is the lesson of Tolkein's eloquent and beautiful work, and more importantly a lesson the bible teaches over and over again.

Luciferianism is a trick which results in men turning to great evil. I know because I have personally seen it happen, and because recorded history is full of examples. It happens every single time.

And just like socialism and communism, the consequences of Luciferianism are no accident. The religion was specifically designed to produce those results.
 
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The answers are out there, but it requires much effort to find them, once found it takes even longer to understand them and every understanding leads to an entirely new series of questions, answers & understandings.... its all very personal and individualistic.

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OK. There's nothing wrong with speaking on something extremely controversial that goes against the norm. It is to be encouraged. And realizing that the reservation consists of a web of lies is important. But when you start venturing off the reservation to find the truth you may indeed find some truths - because many truths are off the reservation. But there are plenty of lies out there too - things are not true just because they are crazy, hidden or unusual.

And sometimes you will fall for one of these lies.

The earth is not flat. And both Lucifer, and Luciferianism are evil.

On the other hand, the spiritual world is real, the government is lying about 9/11 , covid was a planned event, the vaccines are killing more people than they save, there are "elite" pedophile rings etc.

Figuring out the truth from lies is hard because all that glistens is not gold. Luciferianism glistens. But it is the basest of metals under the lustre.
 

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I follow my own path, I couldnt teach anything as I only know & follow MY path... everyone else has their own path too, unless or until that path has been voluntarilly given away like a birth right via free choice & will that is reprogrammed by outside forces or replaced by an ideological path that promotes group think.... the more I learn the more I learn that I have much more to learn! So called guru's, priests, rabbi's, etc. & their books are just a small part of the learning curve. IMO they are given much to much precidence, but that is of course by design, as the institutions & their agents who proclaim to possess great insights & knowledge are power hungry and the slaves looking for relief from the chaos & vicissitudes of life & death are easy prey..... Its all designed for the slaves to forget who they are, what they are & the real power they possess! Sin, Luciferianism, Satanism, Xianity, Judaism, Islam, etc., all psycho babble for the masses!
 

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I follow my own path, I couldnt teach anything as I only know & follow MY path... everyone else has their own path too, unless or until that path has been voluntarilly given away like a birth right via free choice & will that is reprogrammed by outside forces or replaced by an ideological path that promotes group think.... the more I learn the more I learn that I have much more to learn! So called guru's, priests, rabbi's, etc. & their books are just a small part of the learning curve. IMO they are given much to much precidence, but that is of course by design, as the institutions & their agents who proclaim to possess great insights & knowledge are power hungry and the slaves looking for relief from the chaos & vicissitudes of life & death are easy prey..... Its all designed for the slaves to forget who they are, what they are & the real power they possess! Sin, Luciferianism, Satanism, Xianity, Judaism, Islam, etc., all psycho babble for the masses!
Why do you not like to use the word "Christ"?
 

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Why do you not like to use the word "Christ"?

Because the concept is used, employed & deployed in the most erroneous & deceitful ways to achieve certain means & ends.... it is IMO an insult to the concept of the true Christ. Constantine & the Vatican church have perverted & hidden the true concept of Christ of the Ancient world & mysteries... hence Xian denotes the pretender & imposter concept. JMO
 

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Really, thats the best come back you are capable of producing? Oh so creative & original... but I wouldnt expect any less!
When was it said it was "the best come back I'm capable of producing"?

This response of yours is indicative of how your posting with some sort of egotistical competition in mind rather than the feigned, genuine curiosity and "objective search for truth" you continually purport.

Several posters have all pointed out just in this thread that you are obviously not being genuine at all and are not at all coming across as a person with integrity. Paraphrasing their words, not mine.

Then, rather than take it to heart that several independent sources openly state the exact same thing about you and look within yourself for improvement or shortcomings, you instead double down, get defensive and attack others while arrogantly belittling their beliefs as if you were an abusive parent taking out your hate and unhappiness in life on innocent children. Talking down at us, unwilling to provide anything to back your claims telling us, "go look for yourself it's out there" As if you obtained some enlightened status that puts you above average men while simultaneously spewing connotations to the contrary.

Overly sensitive ego, over inflated sense of self importance, disingenuous postings...it's all hear in black & white.

If you really think I'm "unoriginal" and lack creativity, i can truly only laugh in pity at your delusional words.

But those are simply my views. By all means, please continue to enlighten us ignorant fools with your brilliant double speak and pseudo intellectual claptrap and insecure vitriol. It is at least entertaining on some level.
 
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This Xian?

Xian
(Chinese: 仙/仚/僊; pinyin: xiān; Wade–Giles: hsien) refers to a person or similar entity having a long life or being immortal.

The X stands for a cross as in the pretend Christ .... or Xian is short for fake profane Christian.
 

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Because the concept is used, employed & deployed in the most erroneous & deceitful ways to achieve certain means & ends.... it is IMO an insult to the concept of the true Christ. Constantine & the Vatican church have perverted & hidden the true concept of Christ of the Ancient world & mysteries...
I certainly agree that religious organizations have corrupted much. Nevertheless Christ's teachings are still clear in the gospels. And there is no way to confuse what he taught with the ancient mysteries. Gnosticism (and more so the other influences on modern day Luciferianism - Kabbalah, paganism and theosophy) are all clearly in opposition to Christ's actual teachings and fundamentally opposed to the Christian spirit irrespective of whatever corruption may have occurred.
 
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I certainly agree that religious organizations have corrupted much. Nevertheless Christ's teachings are still clear in the bible. And there is no way to confuse what he taught with the ancient mysteries. Gnosticism was clearly a corruption of what Christ taught, and fundamentally opposed to the Christian spirit.

I certainly disagree with this premise....

*****The Nag Hammadi library contained Hermetic teachings that can be argued go back to the Old Egyptian Kingdom (c. 2686–2181 BC).*****

*****[Some] early Christians understood the pre-incarnate Christ, ontologically, as an angel. This "true" angel Christology took many forms and may have appeared as early as the late First Century, if indeed this is the view opposed in the early chapters of the Epistle to the Hebrews. The Elchasaites, or at least Christians influenced by them, paired the male Christ with the female Holy Spirit, envisioning both as two gigantic angels. Some Valentinian Gnostics supposed that Christ took on an angelic nature and that he might be the Saviour of angels. The author of the Testament of Solomon held Christ to be a particularly effective "thwarting" angel in the exorcism of demons. The author of De Centesima and Epiphanius' "Ebionites" held Christ to have been the highest and most important of the first created archangels, a view similar in many respects to Hermas' equation of Christ with Michael. Finally, a possible exegetical tradition behind the Ascension of Isaiah and attested by Origen's Hebrew master, may witness to yet another angel Christology, as well as an angel Pneumatology.[35]*****


The Xian Xist is merely a literary concept that was combined & written using many of the religious teachings that were taught along the silk highway... The literary Xian Xist teaches many teachings found in the Indus Valley where Hindi & Buddism were prevalent.... Like the ancient first Christ, Gnosticism pre-dates Xianity by several thousands of years.
 

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When was it said it was "the best come back I'm capable of producing"?

This response of yours is indicative of how your posting with some sort of egotistical competition in mind rather than the feigned, genuine curiosity and "objective search for truth" you continually purport.

Several posters have all pointed out just in this thread that you are obviously not being genuine at all and are not at all coming across as a person with integrity. Paraphrasing their words, not mine.

Then, rather than take it to heart that several independent sources openly state the exact same thing about you and look within yourself for improvement or shortcomings, you instead double down, get defensive and attack others while arrogantly belittling their beliefs as if you were an abusive parent taking out your hate and unhappiness in life on innocent children. Talking down at us, unwilling to provide anything to back your claims telling us, "go look for yourself it's out there" As if you obtained some enlightened status that puts you above average men while simultaneously spewing connotations to the contrary.

Overly sensitive ego, over inflated sense of self importance, disingenuous postings...it's all hear in black & white.

If you really think I'm "unoriginal" and lack creativity, i can truly only laugh in pity at your delusional words.

But those are simply my views. By all means, please continue to enlighten us ignorant fools with your brilliant double speak and pseudo intellectual claptrap and insecure vitriol. It is at least entertaining on some level.

Well cry me a river.... to bad YOU feel inferior... as for your beliefs, they are yours, not mine... its your problem if other beliefs & concepts upset you, not mine. And yes, its not my job to satisfy your requests which as you have proven are really your demands... I dont take marching orders from you. Who is really being disrespectfull? Its not my problem that you or anyone else is insecure and said insecurities result in you defining discussions as arrogance or belittling etc... these are your interpretations not mine... your problem not mine! I have never claimed enlightened status... for there really is no such thing... now I do not respect when allegory is transmuted into absurd supersticious child like myths that are adopted as defacto programming regarded as beliefs... these are false INDOCTRINATED beliefs, not actual beliefs. This is easily observed by the reactions when these are challenged employing logic, reasoning, & historical references .... it certainly isnt my problem if a person has elected to remain ignorant when today its so easy to verify historical information from a variety of sources. If this makes me arrogant because I performed due dilligance and no longer listen to the myths & lies spoken & taught by men & their institutions, then so be it.

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^^^ Can we do double, triple, quadruple likes, please...
 

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Well cry me a river.... to bad YOU feel inferior... as for your beliefs, they are yours, not mine... its your problem if other beliefs & concepts upset you, not mine. And yes, its not my job to satisfy your requests which as you have proven are really your demands... I dont take marching orders from you. Who is really being disrespectfull? Its not my problem that you or anyone else is insecure and said insecurities result in you defining discussions as arrogance or belittling etc... these are your interpretations not mine... your problem not mine! I have never claimed enlightened status... for there really is no such thing... now I do not respect when allegory is transmuted into absurd supersticious child like myths that are adopted as defacto programming regarded as beliefs... these are false INDOCTRINATED beliefs, not actual beliefs. This is easily observed by the reactions when these are challenged employing logic, reasoning, & historical references .... it certainly isnt my problem if a person has elected to remain ignorant when today its so easy to verify historical information from a variety of sources. If this makes me arrogant because I performed due dilligance and no longer listen to the myths & lies spoken & taught by men & their institutions, then so be it.

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I give odds the bot isn't bright enough to understand he just got his backside handed to him.
 

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I certainly disagree with this premise....

*****The Nag Hammadi library contained Hermetic teachings that can be argued go back to the Old Egyptian Kingdom (c. 2686–2181 BC).*****
The Nag Hammadi library contained mostly Christian/Gnostic texts from the first few centuries AD. There are three texts from the Corpus Hermeticus. The Corpus Hermeticus itself is generally accepted to have been created all the way up to the eleventh or twelth century AD, with some of the oldest works possibly, but not definitely, as far back as the second or third century BC.

*****[Some] early Christians understood the pre-incarnate Christ, ontologically, as an angel.
They were deceived and not Christians.

This "true" angel Christology took many forms and may have appeared as early as the late First Century, if indeed this is the view opposed in the early chapters of the Epistle to the Hebrews. The Elchasaites, or at least Christians influenced by them, paired the male Christ with the female Holy Spirit, envisioning both as two gigantic angels. Some Valentinian Gnostics supposed that Christ took on an angelic nature and that he might be the Saviour of angels. The author of the Testament of Solomon held Christ to be a particularly effective "thwarting" angel in the exorcism of demons. The author of De Centesima and Epiphanius' "Ebionites" held Christ to have been the highest and most important of the first created archangels, a view similar in many respects to Hermas' equation of Christ with Michael. Finally, a possible exegetical tradition behind the Ascension of Isaiah and attested by Origen's Hebrew master, may witness to yet another angel Christology, as well as an angel Pneumatology.[35]*****


The Xian Xist is merely a literary concept that was combined & written using many of the religious teachings that were taught along the silk highway... The literary Xian Xist teaches many teachings found in the Indus Valley where Hindi & Buddism were prevalent.... Like the ancient first Christ, Gnosticism pre-dates Xianity by several thousands of years.
My understanding is that Gnosticism appeared in the two or three centuries after Christ. It has persisted, often underground, ever since.
 

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The Nag Hammadi library contained mostly Christian/Gnostic texts from the first few centuries AD. There are three texts from the Corpus Hermeticus. The Corpus Hermeticus itself is generally accepted to have been created all the way up to the eleventh or twelth century AD, with some of the oldest works possibly, but not definitely, as far back as the second or third century BC.


They were deceived and not Christians.


My understanding is that Gnosticism appeared in the two or three centuries after Christ. It has persisted, often underground, ever since.

Wishful thinking.... !!!
 

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I have answered this question several times in this thread.... recently in a conversation with Joking....
Okay life is short and I don't have time to play games. Please provide me with a post# and I will gladly read it.
He thinks it has to be any shape other than round. He'd be ok with flat, a square, a triangle, a rectangle, or any shape that is not round. Why? because Bob is the ultimate contrarian. if nasa came out tomorrow and proclaimed the Earth as being flat, he would immediately switch to being a round Earther and disavow any evidence of ever having thought otherwise.

there is evidence all around us that refutes the perfect sphere... for instance but not limited to the 24 deepest ocean trenches found around the world. If your looking for edges, start at the trenches & mountain ranges.
On the size of something as big as the Earth, those trenches and mountains are the equivalent of the wrinkles on an elephant. ie: wrinkles on an elephant do not alter the shape of an elephant.

The difference between the highest mountains and deepest trenches is less than 12 miles. On an object that is ~8000 miles in diameter. Or in your thinking, 25,000 miles across it is an insignificant amount of surface variation.
In other words, our biggest mountains and deepest trenches are utterly insignificant in your argument. If you were a giant and the Earth were your basketball, the mountains and trenches wouldn't even be noticeable.
....but you already know this fact, but simply choose to ignore it due to it not supporting your flawed line of thinking.