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Most of the 70s art bars are drying up, either melted or being hoarded by people like me who take a fancy to the old ones, used to see tons of them 4/5 years ago now lucky to see a few at any given coin show, some dealers are now catagorizing them as choice bars and asking a 5 buck preium on them, glad I got what I did when I did.
I also want to clarify that I still do see several '70's silver art bars locally and at some coin shows but most of them are holiday-themed bars and other common-minted silver art bars such as Madison Mint, Silvertowne, Hamilton Mint, and Mother-Lode bars. Still overall there are not as many '70's silver art bars like there used to be 2 years ago based on my observations on the local level. What makes it hard for me is that I do not collect most of the common-minted '70's silver art bars and I am concentrating on the rarer silver art bars such as certain Coca-Cola bars, Greathouse Productions, Green Country Mint, The Mint, and many other private mints that produced rare hard-to-find silver art bars.

This may seem weird and it may not make sense to you but since I am not a real PM stacker, I am not concentrating on the number of oz's I have but I am concentrating on the type of rare silver art bars that are in my silver art bar collection since I am only just a silver art bar collector.
 
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I've got a couple of 1995 Coca Cola rounds with Santa and a glass of Coke.(Santa's beverage of choice after milk?) Do you find that the rounds get treated similarly by collectors as the bars? I know there are "Coke heads" that will collect memorabilia from coolers to stuffed animals, but I'm not sure what the market is on these Coke Rounds. Any ideas?
 

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I've got a couple of 1995 Coca Cola rounds with Santa and a glass of Coke.(Santa's beverage of choice after milk?) Do you find that the rounds get treated similarly by collectors as the bars? I know there are "Coke heads" that will collect memorabilia from coolers to stuffed animals, but I'm not sure what the market is on these Coke Rounds. Any ideas?
Generally speaking, Coca-Cola rounds will also do well just like the Coca-Cola art bars, however, that premium will not be the same premium as the Coca-Cola art bars. I have seen some 1-oz Coca-Cola silver art rounds (the 1912 Coca-Cola bottle for example) sell for a large premium over spot silver on ebay. The 1/2-oz Coca-Cola silver art rounds that were minted in the 1970's fetched a large premium over melt on ebay. There was a 1-oz 1995 Coca-Cola silver round with a polar bear that fetched a winning bid of $66.00.

With all of that said, I am not very familiar with this particular Coca-Cola silver art round. Since it is a Coca-Cola related silver item, then I would expect this 1995 Coca-Cola art round to fetch a premium on ebay but I am going to make a very conservative guess by saying that it will fetch a winning bid ranging from $5 to $10 over spot silver. It is certainly possible that it will sell for more than $10 over spot but I am not really sure. I have seen several BIN prices that are much higher than typical ebay regular auction winnng bids that but those take too long to sell since ebay sellers tend to price these above what the ebay marketplace is willing to pay for it.
 
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This is a really cool thread!! I will keep checking it when on here...I really like that 75th Anniversary Coca Cola Bar...
 

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I've got a couple of 1995 Coca Cola rounds with Santa and a glass of Coke.(Santa's beverage of choice after milk?) Do you find that the rounds get treated similarly by collectors as the bars? I know there are "Coke heads" that will collect memorabilia from coolers to stuffed animals, but I'm not sure what the market is on these Coke Rounds. Any ideas?
Speaking of Coca-Cola silver art rounds......................





It is a 1/2-oz silver 1975 Coca-Cola art round. I bought this today from a local dealer today for $24.33. It was minted by the World Wide Mint. The ".999 Fine silver" stamp is located on the rim of this silver art round. I do not know how many of these were minted but I will find out.
 

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Nice find JW!
 

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This is my most recent silver art bar purchase....................





It is a 1-oz Interama Medallions "Expo '74 World's Fair" silver art bar (Interama-1). I bought this yesterday from an area coin dealer and I paid a total of $47.94 for it (spot silver closed at $40.66/oz yesterday). This dealer that I bought this from charged $3 over spot for this bar but the Tennessee sales tax bumped the total cost to $47.94 for this silver art bar. The 6th edition Archie Kidd silver art bar price guide that I have does not give a mintage number for this bar but the 5th edition Archie Kidd guidebook might have that information in it. I suspect that it must be a low mintage bar because I have not seen many of these on ebay.

EDIT: I guess you can tell from the pictures that it was a partly cloudy day outside today since I took pictures of this silver art bar outside. :)
 
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I was just in contact with another silver art collector who knows a lot about Coca-Cola silver art bars and Coca-Cola silver art rounds. I asked how many of those 1/2-oz 1975 World Mint Coca-Cola silver art rounds and he told me that there were 10,000 that were minted.
 
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Here is the video of the guy trying to sell his silver art bars on the PAWN STARS TV show.

Skip to 5:30

http://www.history.com/shows/pawn-stars/videos/playlists/full-episodes#pawn-stars-pirates-booty

I have seen past Pawn Stars episodes on Netflix and I like watching it. This is the first episode that I have seen where someone was trying to sell their silver art bars on the show. I paused this to see what silver art bars that he had. It appears to be a lot of common-minted silver art bars. I saw a Great Lakes Mint bar as well as a Madison Mint (Easter 1974), a Mount Everest Mint, a 1973 Crabtree Mint (titled "1 ounce ingot"), a Belford and Clausey Mint ("Silent Partners"), a Hamilton Mint (1973 Season's Greetings, Mt. Rushmore), USSC ("Merry Christmas 1974" and "Veteran's day 1973") a a few other holiday-themed and anniversary-themed silver art bars. I have never seen that Republic Bank silver bar before.

Hmmm........He was trying to get $1200-$1300 but I knew, even before I finished playing this video, that he was not going to get anywhere near $1200 -$1300 for those silver art bars. $1200/18 = $66.67/oz. $1300/18 = $72.22/oz and even those silver art bars that he had would not sell on ebay for anywhere near $66.67/oz or $72.22/oz since they are all common-minted silver art bars. I am surprised that Pawn Stars offered him spot ($37.50) for them. I was thinking that it would be a low-ball offer for well under spot for those 18 bars. If he waited and spot hit $50, then it would only net him $900 if he went back to Pawn Stars and they bought them for spot. At least they were honest in what they would do with them if they bought them from that customer.

The best place that he can do better than Pawn Stars is to sell them on ebay but you have to factor in ebay and paypal fees and that will not get him anywhere near $1200-$1300 that he thought he would get for them. In reality, those silver art bars would fetch an ebay winning bid of about $4-$5 over spot for each bar.
 
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Do you see many art bars slabbed like the one in the small collection I bought? Franky, this is the only art bar I remember seeing slabbed.
 
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Do you see many art bars slabbed like the one in the small collection I bought? Franky, this is the only art bat I remember seeing slabbed.

Nope. I have never seen a silver art bar that was slabbed. This one that you posted is the first slabbed silver art bar that I have seen. That is very interesting to me to see a slabbed silver art bar. I have never heard of SGS but they must be a third party grader that specializes in grading '70's silver art bars. Thanks for posting that.
 
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This is one that not many people have. Uber rare and when spot was about 15 I paid $40 for it. I'd have to get some decent moon money to let this one go. Its a 1 oz 1969 bar made by the Foster Company. Perhaps one of the earliest art bars around.

 

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Silver Art..My dealer had two of the naked lady bars shown on one of the magazine covers you posted when I went in this week... He seemed to get a big kick out of it. I passed them up for two Desert Storm coins.. I should have bought them. One of the guys here would have liked them.
 

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Silver Art..My dealer had two of the naked lady bars shown on one of the magazine covers you posted when I went in this week... He seemed to get a big kick out of it. I passed them up for two Desert Storm coins.. I should have bought them. One of the guys here would have liked them.

The ones that I have seen at past coin shows that I have attended are some Crown Mint Beauties nude art bars that were minted in the 1980's. The mintage numbers for the Crown Mint Beauties adult-themed silver art bars are 5000 for each bar. There was also another adult-themed silver art 12-bar set called "Dr. Peepers" that showed a theme of a naked woman for each month of the year. The "Dr. Peepers" 12-bar set was minted in 1983.

There was a 1973 United State Silver Corporation "Woman's Liberation" silver art bar. The United State Silver corporation (Mark IV reverse) and the Death Valley Mint also made some very hard-to-find adult-themed silver art bars that were minted from 1974 to 1978.

I will venture a guess and say that one of the naked lady bars that you saw at the dealer's shop was a naked Marilyn Monroe silver art bar. If that is the case, then that one was minted in 1973 by the Colonial Mint.
 

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Question --- I snagged a 10 oz. 1988 Isle of Man Bicentary coin $2.00 below spot the other day --- gorgeous thing! Anyone have one of these Isle of Man coins?? I had never seen one before and thought I had a prize!

(Note: Not a '70's piece --- sorry)
 

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The ones that I have seen at past coin shows that I have attended are some Crown Mint Beauties nude art bars that were minted in the 1980's. The mintage numbers for the Crown Mint Beauties adult-themed silver art bars are 5000 for each bar. There was also another adult-themed silver art 12-bar set called "Dr. Peepers" that showed a theme of a naked woman for each month of the year. The "Dr. Peepers" 12-bar set was minted in 1983.

There was a 1973 United State Silver Corporation "Woman's Liberation" silver art bar. The United State Silver corporation (Mark IV reverse) and the Death Valley Mint also made some very hard-to-find adult-themed silver art bars that were minted from 1974 to 1978.

I will venture a guess and say that one of the naked lady bars that you saw at the dealer's shop was a naked Marilyn Monroe silver art bar. If that is the case, then that one was minted in 1973 by the Colonial Mint.
I wish I had paid more attention... I do know they were not Marilyn Monroe. My Dealer told me what they were but I cant remember..I think maybe he said commeative to burlesque?? The Lady on the coin was sitting in a very similar pose to the one in the picture on your mag cover. Ill check and see if he still has them Mond.. This thread really makes me think. I have bough tons of silver rounds over the years. I always passed up the artsy stuff in preference of the name brand or silver eagle. I have passed up some really unique things.. :(
 

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Question --- I snagged a 10 oz. 1988 Isle of Man Bicentary coin $2.00 below spot the other day --- gorgeous thing! Anyone have one of these Isle of Man coins?? I had never seen one before and thought I had a prize!

(Note: Not a '70's piece --- sorry)
Don't worry about it. Will all make mistakes. I think that I posted some '80's silver art bars on this thread but I think that it is safe to say that silver art bars from other decades besides the '70's can be posted on this thread. When I started out silver art bar collecting 3 years ago, it was only 1970's silver art bars but as I gained more knowledge about other non-'70's silver art bars from buying the silver art bar reference guides, then I broadened my silver art bar horizon and started buying '80's and other decade silver art bars but currently I am concentrating on collecting very rare silver art bars that were minted by private mints such as Greathouse, Green Country and The Mint to name a few.

The silver art bars that were minted in the 1970's had more social, economic, political, sports, and many other themes and you had many different private mints that created these s'70's silver art bars. As the 1980's arrived, you did not have the massive variety of art themes like you did in the 1970's. This got worse in my opinion as each decade went on.
 

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I wish I had paid more attention... I do know they were not Marilyn Monroe. My Dealer told me what they were but I cant remember..I think maybe he said commeative to burlesque?? The Lady on the coin was sitting in a very similar pose to the one in the picture on your mag cover. Ill check and see if he still has them Mond.. This thread really makes me think. I have bough tons of silver rounds over the years. I always passed up the artsy stuff in preference of the name brand or silver eagle. I have passed up some really unique things.. :(
A lot of the common-minted '70's silver art bars can be had for .999 silver premiums but the key to that is to find a local dealer that will treat (and price) silver art bars as just .999 generic silver. When I started out collecting silver art bars in 2008, I was going to local coin shops and coin shows and buying them for .999 generic silver premiums ($1-$2 over spot). However, as I search for rare silver art bars that I like to add to my collection, I end up going to places such as ebay to find what I am looking for at much higer premiums because the ones that I am looking for are almost impossible to find locally. I do not bid on ebay as much as I used to but I still lurk there everyday to see what it out there and to observe prices on certain silver art bars. I still continue to visit my local dealers and go to the coin shows to search for silver art bars that I like and I have been very lucky to find some rare silver art bars for decent .999 generic premiums.
 
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I apologize to the OP for getting slightly off topic here since this silver art bar is not a '70's silver art bar. This is one of the silver art bars that I was able to find and buy during the September silver smackdown. Here is what it looks like:





It is a Madison Mint "Paul 'Bear' Bryant" silver art bar (MAD-257). It was minted in 1983 and there were only a 1000 of these minted according to the 4th edition Archie Kidd guidebook titled "An Indexed Guide Book of Silver Art Bars". I bought this during the last week of September from a local dealer and I paid $32.75 for it (spot silver was $29.93/oz at that time).
 
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gota figure out why my cam pictures wont post here, when I load them it says (on gim) the file is too big? any thoughts on how to stop this, I have some nice silver porn I would like to share but pics are a pain. (porn=old art bars)
 

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Did you try decreasing the file size before attempting to upload?
 

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I use Photobucket to upload my silver art bar pictures to and copy and paste that Photobucket picture link to this thread. That is easier for me to use Photobucket than it is for me to upload pics to directly to the forum. That is why my pictures look really big on this thread. The big pictures for me capture the details of the particular silver art bar that I am taking pictures of.
 

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Are there any gold "art bars"?
 

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I have heard these old art bars might be radioactive, for safetys sake please send them all to me and I will test them with my geiger counter.
 

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Are there any gold "art bars"?
I am sure that they are some gold "art bars" out there. If there are any gold "art bars", then I think that Perth Mint produces a few of them. The PAMP "Horn of Plenty" bar could be considered a gold "art bar". I do not have any gold "art bars" because I am a poor man and a poor man such as myself cannot afford a gold "art bar". :flute:
 
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I have heard these old art bars might be radioactive, for safetys sake please send them all to me and I will test them with my geiger counter.
Hmmm.........Thanks for mentioning that because I happen to have a geiger counter in my possession and I used it to test all of my silver art bars. I am happy to announce that all of my silver art bars are not radioactive. :biggrin:
 

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IDK, I think you should sen me the bars and the Gieger counter, just to make sure its working properly. Then I'll test the bars. ;)
 

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IDK, I think you should sen me the bars and the Gieger counter, just to make sure its working properly. Then I'll test the bars. ;)
HAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!! That's ok Newmisty. My silver art bars just finished speaking to me and they said that they refused to get tested by someone else's geiger counter and besides, my silver art bars do not glow in the dark. :flute: :biggrin:
 

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Hey JW, do collect most bars due to personal interest, mintage or both? I guess my interest is in both, but I'm primarily interested in designs that are attractive or themes that inspire or are just cool.

Another ? Were there many art bars made before the 70s? How about after. Also, what exactly determines an "art" bar today? Just looking for your understanding on this, thanks.
 

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Hey JW, do collect most bars due to personal interest, mintage or both? I guess my interest is in both, but I'm primarily interested in designs that are attractive or themes that inspire or are just cool.

Another ? Were there many art bars made before the 70s? How about after. Also, what exactly determines an "art" bar today? Just looking for your understanding on this, thanks.
Newmisty,

It is a little bit of both. I mainly do it because of personal interest but also for the low mintage. When I started out seriously collecting silver art bars in 2008, it was purely because of personal interest and it was only common-minted ones that were minted in the 1970's that I was interested at the time. Back then, I did not have any rhyme or reason for buying them except I love the theme of particular ones back then.

As time went on, I was also looking on ebay and noticing some of the high prices that some of them fetched but I did not know anything about them. Since I did not know anything about them, I bought my 1st Archie Kidd silver art bar price guide on ebay. It was the 4th edition of this price guide that I bought and once I bought that guide, I started learning about certain rare silver art bars from small private mints such as Greathouse, Green Country, The Mint and other private mints. Unfortunately, I spent a couple of years trying to find these rare silver art bars locally and at coin shows but I had no success with finding them since most of those particular ones had mintages of 300 or less.

What I ended up doing, starting in December 2010, was that I bought several rare Greathouse and The Mint silver art bars on ebay and paying 2X-4X spot silver price for them. Once I did that, I just fell in love with them and wanted to buy more and that is what I did during the earlier part of this year. It was also around the end of 2010 that I finished completing my silver art bar wish list and I had an idea of what I wanted and, starting in January. 2011, I used that final version of the silver art bar wish list to buy the rare ones on ebay that were on that list. I also continued to search for rare silver art bars at my local area dealers and at coin shows.

Currently, I mainly love to collect the following types of silver art bars:

1.) Rare silver art bars - As I mentioned earlier, These are mainly the ones from Greathouse, Green Country Mint, and The Mint to name a few private mints that made particular rare pieces.

2.) Coca-Cola silver art bars - I started seriously collecting these starting in 2009 but I did not buy many of them in 2009 because they are hard to find. Some of the common minted Coca-Cola bars can be hard to find. These are very popular silver art bars to collect. I got very lucky in early 2010 when I went to one of my local dealers and found a lot of Coca-Cola silver art bars selling for $25.00 each back then. Needless to say, I bought as many Coca-Cola bars as I could afford from this local dealer and I felt great buying them. Of course other people were also buying Coca-Cola bars and this particular local dealer ended up selling them all. At that time, I did not know very much about them but I was able to find and buy a Coca-Cola guidebook on ebay. This book had information on the Coke bars that I bought and I learned a lot about them from reading that book.

3.) Sports-themed art bars - These types of silver art bars are my most favorite to collect. Since I like to watch sports (mainly football and basketball) on TV, I started seriously looking for and collecting certain sports-themed silver art bars. I mainly like collecting the professional sports themed (NFL, NBA, MLB) art bars that were minted by The Mint from the late 1970's to the early 1990's. I like the enameled versions of particular ones because of the richness of the color and the smooth finish. I like collecting other sport-themed bars that were minted by other private mints as well but I am picky on which ones that I want to collect. I also plan to go back to collecting sports-themed silver art rounds especially the ones that were minted by the Highland Mint. Since the Highland Mint sports-themed silver art rounds are very common (mintage of 10,000 for each art round is typical), then I should not have much of a problem finding the ones that I want to get Overall, I have some good luck finding the sport-themed art bars that I was looking for and I hope to continue to find more of them during the rest of this year and into 2012.


4.) Non-1970's silver art bars - I like certain silver art bars from the early '80's and some from the early '90's but those are the ones that fit the above 3 categories of bars I like to collect.

Those are the 4 main categories of art bars that I concentrate on collecting but I also like to collect other rare and common-minted silver art bars that do not fit the first 3 categories that I mentioned.

There were other silver art bars that came out before the 1970's but there were not many of them produced before the 1970's. The bars that were minted by Foster Mint were minted in the late 1960's.

What determines an "Art bar"? My definition of a silver art bar is a minature picture of something that has been struck on a 1-oz silver bar. I see silver art bars as artwork that will always be worth something and can never be worth zero. I look at silver art bars as mini pictures that show a theme or express a social, economic, or political theme that was popular (or unpopular) in a particular decade. What determines an art bar can be subjective because some people might see something as art where another person might not see it has "art".
 
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I was actually collecting them for a while but when the GSR started turning south i traded them for gold. I really liked many of them and my intent was to collect them but the temptation to get gold on the cheap was too much. I only have a few left that i owuldnt part with...one of the with a Women's Revolution theme and a naked chick on the front...but my one bar that I will never ever sell is my 1969 Foster Company Comstock Mines silver bar. Back when silver was in the teens I paid $40 for it. Not sure how much they go for now but I can almost guarantee that not many will be seen on Ebay or anywhere for that matter. Its that rare IMO

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I was actually collecting them for a while but when the GSR started turning south i traded them for gold. I really liked many of them and my intent was to collect them but the temptation to get gold on the cheap was too much. I only have a few left that i owuldnt part with...one of the with a Women's Revolution theme and a naked chick on the front...but my one bar that I will never ever sell is my 1969 Foster Company Comstock Mines silver bar. Back when silver was in the teens I paid $40 for it. Not sure how much they go for now but I can almost guarantee that not many will be seen on Ebay or anywhere for that matter. Its that rare IMO

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I do not watch all Foster mint bars but I think that those sell for a high premium over spot on ebay. Any silver art bar with an adult theme will always sell for decent premiums on ebay. Some of them could possibly sell for over $100 depending on the rarity of that particular adult-themed silver art bar.

As for selling, I also did a lot of selling of a lot of holiday-themed silver art bars, silver rounds, and other silver art bars that I no longer wanted. I sold those to a local dealer for a profit during the earlier part of this year when silver on in the $40's and I sold a bunch of them to a local dealer in late April when silver was in the $47 range for a profit. I did not buy any gold with that profit that I made from those silver sales. Instead, what I did was that I used that profit to go shopping on ebay to buy the rare Greathouse, Green Country and The Mint silver art bars that I wanted to collect and were on my silver art bar wish list. I basically used that profit to upgrade my silver art bar collection

After I did that, my current silver art bar collection consists of more rare silver art bars and my silver art bar collection looks much different now than it did two years ago and I am very happy with that.

So far, 2011 is appearing to shape up to be my best year as a silver art bar collector. It also seems to me that each year, my love for silver art bars keeps growing and I love that. I am very happy with how this year is going for me and I am just happy with being able to find and buy the silver art bars that I like.
 

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Not quite from the 70s but a few rare bars nonetheless. On the top left is a newer Perth Mint 10 oz Bar, just below that is an older version...how old it is Im not sure but the font and design indicates that it is rather old and on the top right is a old pour Silvertowne bar with a poured Engelhard below.

The two bars below were actually custom cut from a Penoles Bar (probably a 1,000 oz bar). There was a Ebay seller out of Florida who acquired a few and actually cut the bars and stamped them accordingly with the same style of stamp as a Penoles bar. Im pretty sure not many people have these since the seller only sold a few of them. Unless someone takes the time to professionally cut a Penoles bar and sell them separate, or buy a 1,000 oz Penoles bar then it will be tough to acquire Penoles brand. Neat nonetheless






 

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NICE BARS ROD!

That old PERTH bar is KILLA'! Where did you get that?

Did they have some sort of museum at the Perth Mint while you were there?
 

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NICE BARS ROD!

That old PERTH bar is KILLA'! Where did you get that?

Did they have some sort of museum at the Perth Mint while you were there?
They actually have a museum with different gold bars and you can even lift a brick of gold. They even had Mitsubishi bars...you name it they had it. They also did a gold pour...pretty cool and the room walls had gold dust all over.

The older Perth Mint bar was actually bought physically at the Perth Mint when i was there. I ended up using some of the free cash that i won as part of the trip to buy some Perth Bars. I actually still have the receipt for them and they cost me 187.35 each. A bit of a premium at the time but in hindsight what a steal that was ;)

It sucks cause i was willing to buy more of the same kind but that was the only one they had. Shouldve bought more bars even if they didnt have the older ones. Oh well...
 

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I still can't believe one of us won the trip. When did reality sink in that you were getting flown around the world to play at the mint? What a trip....:biggrin: