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Apples To Apples: CV to Seasonal Flu

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Interesting. I suspect that as we test more people, we'll find the mortality rate is quite low. My gf works at the health department; she went to work yesterday and was found to have a low grade fever; they didn't even test her for the COVID because she didn't "fit the criteria"...
 

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I generally like Ben Swann's stuff, but he seems to be ignoring the exponential growth part of this thing.
In the vid he says as of March 18th (a week ago) there were 112 US deaths due to wuflu. Today that number is nearly 800. A seven fold increase in one week. Does the regflu exhibit continuous exponential growth in the number of cases and deaths?

Edited to add: what if there's another 7 fold increase over the next week?
...and the one after that, and the one after that, etc etc?
That, is what they are trying to prevent. Regflu doesn't do that.
 

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Today that number is nearly 800.
But how do we know that they actually died of corona? I heard the other day that the test kits are only 50% accurate. So, inaccurate testing and symptoms that are the same as regular colds and flu. Furthermore, the average age of people who died of "corona" in Italy was 79.5 years old, and 99% of those people also had pre-existing conditions.

In other words, let's say you have a guy who's 100 years old, diabetic, high blood-pressure, and has emphysema. Let's say he gets cold-like symptoms and then dies. They could easily count him as a victim of corona even if that wasn't what killed him.

Additionally, factor in Event201, what we know about the top oligarchs' agenda, and the unprecedented responses from governments. It's fishy to say the least.
 
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But how do we know that they actually died of corona? I heard the other day that the test kits are only 50% accurate. So, inaccurate testing and symptoms that are the same as regular colds and flu. Furthermore, the average age of people who died of "corona" in Italy was 79.5 years old, and 99% of those people also had pre-existing conditions.

In other words, let's say you have a guy who's 85 years old, diabetic, high blood-pressure, and has emphysema. Let's say he gets cold-like symptoms and then dies. They could easily claim that he died of corona.

Additionally, factor in Event201, what we know about the top oligarchs' agenda, and the unprecedented responses from governments. It's fishy to say the least.
I suppose we'll know soon enough if the exponential growth keeps up.
....and how do you know they didn't die of wuflu? The list that I saw comparing symptoms of the three, showed significant differences in symptoms between wuflu and colds&regflu. For example, little to no runny nose in most wuflu patients and onset marked by sudden high fever. When's the last time you had a cold/regflu that did not have a runny and/or congested nose as an early symptom? Or one that the first symptom is a high fever? Colds and regflu don't usually start like that.
 

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It would be interesting to run an antibody test on everyone who had any cold symptoms over the last 6 months. I bet there is more positives out there than we will ever know.
 

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What I'd really like to know is how many additional deaths are caused by the wu flu. It's sounding like any death that can be attributed to wu flu, is being attributed to wu flu, whether it's the real cause of death or not. I doubt that we'll ever know the truth, and that the raw data to figure the truth will never exist. Personally, I'm leaning toward wu flu being used as the cover for the economic collapse that was eventually going to happen anyway. I'm not saying that wu flu isn't real, just that it came around at a convenient time to use it as a cover.
 
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It would be interesting to run an antibody test on everyone who had any cold symptoms over the last 6 months. I bet there is more positives out there than we will ever know.
This is basically Gov Cuomo's plan to get the economy moving without sacrificing a million lives.
Test everybody for antibodies, if you have the antibodies, go back to work.
You aren't a big risk to yourself or anybody else.
 

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This is basically Gov Cuomo's plan to get the economy moving without sacrificing a million lives.
Test everybody for antibodies, if you have the antibodies, go back to work.
You aren't a big risk to yourself or anybody else.
It's a good idea, but if they can only test so few for the virus itself, how are they ever gonna be able to test tens of millions of people for antibodies?
 
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I generally like Ben Swann's stuff, but he seems to be ignoring the exponential growth part of this thing.
In the vid he says as of March 18th (a week ago) there were 112 US deaths due to wuflu. Today that number is nearly 800. A seven fold increase in one week. Does the regflu exhibit continuous exponential growth in the number of cases and deaths?

Edited to add: what if there's another 7 fold increase over the next week?
...and the one after that, and the one after that, etc etc?
That, is what they are trying to prevent. Regflu doesn't do that.
Chris Martenson in his Youtube channel "Peak Prosperity" says it has been and is going to show a 10 fold increase every 14 days until it nears its peak.

........Willie
 

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The worlds leading producer of Adrenochrome is in Wuhan, China.

Coincidence?
 

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Chris Martenson in his Youtube channel "Peak Prosperity" says it has been and is going to show a 10 fold increase every 14 days until it nears its peak.

........Willie
If so, we should all hope that the peak is not far off.
Once the peak is reached and the numbers of newly infected quits going exponential, THEN we can start comparing it to regflu.
....but as is, it makes no sense to compare an exponentially growing problem to one that isn't. Doing so assumes that conditions are static.
 

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Doesn't the amount of testing increase the rate of growth?
Yea, but it doesn't alter the number of people suddenly needing hospitalization and it's already been established that about 15-19% of those infected are critical enough to need that. You can then do the math to calculate ballpark numbers on total infected.

Also, if we wait to see if it sweeps through the population before trying to do anything about it, it'll be too late to be able to do anything about it. It'll become an automatic catastrophe.
....and it's not as though that possibility is years off, we'll know in a matter of weeks which way it's gonna go.
Taking the current actions is the only way to have any possibility of control over its course. Do nothing and continuing business as usual over those few weeks guarantees uncontrolled exponential growth.
Doing something offers a chance of controlling it.
 

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This pandemic scare was a total failure on their part. people are out and about just like any other day. Beautiful day out today too.
How about some common sense. If your 50 and under go back to work. Everyone older stay home til this passes. Death rates will be very low, lower than the flu if we just do that protocol.

You think this crisis is real? Apparently the government doesn't. Nancy wont pass a bill and although I haven't seen todays presser, I imagine trump still not blasting her for not passing anything. Just checked, Presser is supposed to be now. See if he lays into her now. If he doesn't after so many states have declared a national emergency than this really isn't much of an emergency..

Yes people will die from it. For some reason people cant seem to fathom that 40k have already died from the flu this year. Even if we get 80-120k deaths is that worth shutting the country down? Are we going to do this every year?

Anyone seeing an enforcement of any of these restrictions? I don't see cops or national guard out stopping people, asking for their papers to see if they are allowed out. Haven't even heard of one incident of this yet.
 

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Anyone seeing an enforcement of any of these restrictions? I don't see cops or national guard out stopping people, asking for their papers to see if they are allowed out. Haven't even heard of one incident of this yet.
Cop asked me where I was going and I said, to da' liquor sto'!", and he gave me a police escort. I had essential bidness there.
 

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Tom Hanks can test positive.
Prince Charles can test positive
NBA stars can test positive
Prime Minister of Canada’s wife can test positive

But apparently all the cashiers at every truck stop, gas station and grocery store in America have yet to catch this highly contagious disease.

There’s probably hundreds of thousands of Americans walking around that would test positive but have mild or no symptoms.

When the real infected numbers come out (if they ever do) they’ll show that you were more likely to be killed driving around your city looking for toilet paper than have had succumbed to this flu.
 

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Tom Hanks can test positive.
Prince Charles can test positive
NBA stars can test positive
Prime Minister of Canada’s wife can test positive

But apparently all the cashiers at every truck stop, gas station and grocery store in America have yet to catch this highly contagious disease.

There’s probably hundreds of thousands of Americans walking around that would test positive but have mild or no symptoms.

When the real infected numbers come out (if they ever do) they’ll show that you were more likely to be killed driving around your city looking for toilet paper than have had succumbed to this flu.
My GF's friend's daughter has tested positive. Trust me, she's not part of the NWO. It looks like two of my coworkers (both electricians) may have it...and me, by inference (though I am asymptomatic).
 

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Tom Hanks can test positive.
Prince Charles can test positive
NBA stars can test positive
Prime Minister of Canada’s wife can test positive

But apparently all the cashiers at every truck stop, gas station and grocery store in America have yet to catch this highly contagious disease.

There’s probably hundreds of thousands of Americans walking around that would test positive but have mild or no symptoms.

When the real infected numbers come out (if they ever do) they’ll show that you were more likely to be killed driving around your city looking for toilet paper than have had succumbed to this flu.
Really makes me wonder if, by claiming someone dies of COVID when it was actually the underlying condition that killed them, a state, region or country can get WHO funds to further help "pandemic" response? This new source of funding would be the secret funding that gets funnelled off into the cabal's operations now that the US is getting smart to their wiley ways....
 

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Anyone here the Cuomo video from earlier where he states that the feds sent him 4k respirators and he is pretty upset and says 4k? I need 30k?
And now trump is on here saying that he talked with him and sent him 4k and he was very happy.. More than likely Cuomo being 2 faced but interesting nonetheless that there are 2 different versions of the same event told by the actors in play.
 

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My GF's friend's daughter has tested positive. Trust me, she's not part of the NWO. It looks like two of my coworkers (both electricians) may have it...and me, by inference (though I am asymptomatic).
“My GF’s friends daughter”....

Yeah....my wife’s brothers friends cousin saw Bigfoot. I swear.
 

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Really makes me wonder if, by claiming someone dies of COVID when it was actually the underlying condition that killed them, a state, region or country can get WHO funds to further help "pandemic" response? This new source of funding would be the secret funding that gets funnelled off into the cabal's operations now that the US is getting smart to their wiley ways....
Great point.
 

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But how do we know that they actually died of corona?
What, you wanna inspect the bodies? If they had severe symptoms of the disease, it's pretty safe to say that's what they died from.

you were more likely to be killed driving around your city looking for toilet paper than have had succumbed to this flu.
Whew, good thing I didn't do that.
...but I hope you wore your seatbelt if you did.

2 different versions of the same event told by the actors in play.
That's why having transcripts of calls is so important. Hopefully Trump heeded the lesson of the Ukraine phone call BS and has a transcript of his call with butthead. Anyone know if NY is a single party State? If it is, Trump could release transcripts and/or a recording of the call.
 

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What, you wanna inspect the bodies? If they had severe symptoms of the disease, it's pretty safe to say that's what they died from.
Actually it’s not safe to say they died of covid19...or at least it’s not scientific. Over 210,000 people in the United States die of respiratory failure every year. Many of these cases - roughly 50,000 of them - are the result of pneumonia.

So on average,18,000 Americans die from severe covid19-like symptoms EVERY MONTH. Over 25,000 Americans have already died this year from the flu. The truth is, this shut down of the global economy Andy mass quarantined of 3 billion people is no time being done because of a mild virus that 99% of the people survive (most never even get tested because they are asymptomatic.

There is a bigger picture here and a lot going on that is not being made public.
 

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So on average,18,000 Americans die from severe covid19-like symptoms EVERY MONTH. Over 25,000 Americans have already died this year from the flu.
18,000 per Month is a static rate. It cannot be compared with something growing exponentially. Which is what you are trying to do.

I guarantee you that if that 18,000 Monthly deaths were growing exponentially, ie: 18,000 this Month, 180,000 next Month, 1.8million the Month after that, etc etc, you'd see the same thing being done to try to stop it too. Probably far more than what is happening now.


Everyone should watch this vid.

It's the most important video you'll ever see.

 

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In the vid he says as of March 18th (a week ago) there were 112 US deaths due to wuflu. Today that number is nearly 800. A seven fold increase in one week.
Ooops! I mean 1031. A more than 9 fold increase.

See how that works? The numbers grew more in a few hours than in the previous 6 weeks prior to Ben's video. That's called exponential growth.

Why is it so hard for so many to see what is possible in coming weeks/Months if it keeps growing at this rate?
Yea, you could say that no one knows if it will or not, and that is true.
....but it also shows no signs of slowing down and until it does show signs that it's slowing, you gotta assume that it will continue.
 

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I'd like to know if, since this outbreak, the total death rate of people in general has gone up, down, or hasn't significantly changed.
Eventually stats will come out on this period of time, and then you'll know.
 

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....but it also shows no signs of slowing down and until it does show signs that it's slowing, you gotta assume that it will continue.
Except that....it DOES show signs of slowing down.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...ronavirus-outbreak-slows-200317084803189.html

https://truepublica.org.uk/united-kingdom/uk-government-officially-and-quietly-downgrades-covid-19/

The government officially now states that:

“The 4 nations public health HCID group made an interim recommendation in January 2020 to classify COVID-19 as an HCID. This was based on consideration of the UK HCID criteria about the virus and the disease with information available during the early stages of the outbreak. Now that more is known about COVID-19, the public health bodies in the UK have reviewed the most up to date information about COVID-19 against the UK HCID criteria. They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall), and there is now greater clinical awareness and a specific and sensitive laboratory test, the availability of which continues to increase. The Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens (ACDP) is also of the opinion that COVID-19 should no longer be classified as an HCID.”

The Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens (source) is made up of scientists, doctors, professors, members of NHS foundations and one Group Captain Christopher Melville OBE representing the Ministry of Defence. The role of the ACDP is – “an expert committee of the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC). Its work cuts across a number of organisations, including the Health and Safety Executive (HSE), Public Health England (PHE) and the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra).” Their terms of reference are – “To provide as requested independent scientific advice to HSE, and to ministers through DHSC, Defra, and their counterparts under devolution in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, on all aspects of hazards and risks to workers and others from exposure to pathogens.”
 

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I'd like to know if, since this outbreak, the total death rate of people in general has gone up, down, or hasn't significantly changed.
21 million Chinese who no longer require cell phones (a CCP mandatory) would raise there hands, if their ashes weren't scattered across the earth.