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Heading for civil war
Peter Skurkiss

Donald Trump's opponents are completely unhinged. The hate and slander directed toward the president and his supporters is off the charts. The vitriol comes not just from the Democratic Party, the media, and the world of entertainment, but also from a sizable proportion of the federal bureaucracy and many seemingly ordinary people.
The media coordinate this campaign and amplify the hate at every opportunity. Media twist every event, be it big or small, into a criticism of the president. The goal is always not just to present Trump in an unfavorable light, but to make him appear too loathsome for polite society. And Trump is not the sole target of this demonization. It is directed at his supporters, too.

Where will all this lead? No less than Angelo M. Codevilla fears that it could ultimately result in a bloody civil war. If it comes to that, there's no doubt where he places the blame.

The story of the modern American Left's sponsorship of hate and violence began around 1964, when the Democrats chose to abandon the Southern constituencies that had been their mainstay since the time of Jefferson and Jackson. In less than a decade, the party found itself increasingly dependent on gaining super-majorities among blacks, upscale liberals, and constituencies of resentment in general — and hence on stoking their hate.

For the past half-century, America's political history has been driven by the Democrats' effort to fire up these constituencies by denigrating the rest of America.

Codevilla notes that prominent Democrats like Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and Hillary Clinton have led millions of their followers "to think and act as if conservatives were simply a lower level of humanity, and should have their faces rubbed in their own inferiority."

It's not surprising that many ordinary followers have concluded that harassing conservatives in restaurants, airports, and public functions is "not just permissible but praiseworthy, and if thousands of persons who exercise power over cities, towns, and schools have not concluded that facilitating such harassment and harm is their duty."

This is the toxic environment that the Democrats, in conjunction with the media, have created. Has Pandora's box been opened? Are we beyond the point of no return? Are leftists and their liberal soul mates too obtuse not to expect that hate and violence will someday be answered in kind? These questions are up in the air. Right now, one thing is clear. As Yeats wrote: "The best lack all conviction while the worse are full of passionate intensity."

Codevilla's worry about a civil war dovetails with The Fourth Turning,: What the Cycles of History Tell Us about American's Next Rendezvous with Destiny(1997) by William Strauss and Neil Howe. To my reading, these authors predict a Fourth Turning Crisis period around the years 2020–2022. Then, many things that Americans have always taken for granted will unravel.

Just to touch on a few of the changes that Strauss and Howe see: Today's soft criminal justice system will become swift and rough. Vagrants will be rounded up and the mentally ill recommitted. Criminal appeals shortened and executions hastened. Pension funds will go bust, and Social Security checks will become iffy. The full spectrum of society will be under distress. All the problems will be combined into one: the survival of society.

Aren't the seeds already planted for a crisis? Trust in Washington and in government institutions is at an all-time low. Political violence is tacitly condoned and often openly encouraged by Democratic officeholders. The political establishment encourages massive illegal immigration. The mainstream media is highly partisan and corrupt beyond reform. The American flag, the country's history, and even its nationhood are openly despised in universities. Society is being forced to swallow the harebrained ideas that sex is fluid and that homosexuals can marry. American public schools are a disgrace despite the money poured into them. The country is burdened by a $22-trillion national debt to which many trillions more of unfunded government liabilities must be added. Students owe a trillion dollars in school loans that can never be repaid.

Someday, there has to be a reckoning for all this dysfunction. Irrespective of the election results in 2020, the time frame of 2020–2022 sounds about the right for things to come to a head. It would be prudent to be ready.
 

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Never pin a date on predicted event.

NEVER.
Without a date, writing something like this is meaningless. Put it on the line or don't waste my time.
 

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I'm looking for a repeat of the Bolshevik Revolution. This seems to be what TPTB are working up to. Class warfare, get the envious, inferior and inadequate to attack the White middle class. Learn everything you can about the Bolshevik and you will be mentally prepared for what is to come.
 

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which came first. The lie, or, fishing?
 

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My opinion is we'll be in a shooting civil war within 5 years.
No time than the present to stock up on the necessities....guns, ammo, water, food, toilet paper and lots of alcohol!
 

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My opinion is we'll be in a shooting civil war within 5 years.
That's what TPTB want, but the masses aren't buying into it yet. As long as their bellies are full, they won't fight.
 

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Hey up Hoarder

I get it and can appreciate why you would state that,
just can't get my brain around that though,

Isn't time on their side? That every day that goes by, more and more persons against their agenda just die off and aren't replaced.

That in time, they will get what they want without ever firing a shot,

Their plan of starting them young while controlling the system is working to perfection.

another generation and there will be scant few conservatives left

we are dinosaurs and a endangered species
 

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Hey up Hoarder

I get it and can appreciate why you would state that,
just can't get my brain around that though,

Isn't time on their side? That every day that goes by, more and more persons against their agenda just die off and aren't replaced.

That in time, they will get what they want without ever firing a shot,

Their plan of starting them young while controlling the system is working to perfection.

another generation and there will be scant few conservatives left

we are dinosaurs and a endangered species
Most likely they have plan A, plan B, plan C and more. Dissatisfaction and civil disobedience could surge. If it does, they will have to employ more drastic measures to speed things up. One thing they learned during the Bolshevik Revolution.... kill Whitey first. If not for the countries with White majority populations, they could have implemented global communism a century ago. This is the reason they are bringing in so many third worlders. They need a population that they can recruit to finish off Whitey.
 

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Hey up Hoarder

I get it and can appreciate why you would state that,
just can't get my brain around that though,

Isn't time on their side? That every day that goes by, more and more persons against their agenda just die off and aren't replaced.

That in time, they will get what they want without ever firing a shot,

Their plan of starting them young while controlling the system is working to perfection.

another generation and there will be scant few conservatives left

we are dinosaurs and a endangered species
Pretty much. Inflate the dollar and make a normal wage unable to support a family, then they'll turn the government to "tax the rich" in order to bring "income equality"...yep....we're about at the 75-80% solution right now.
 

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So, in the final year of Lincoln's presidency he was hated as much if not more than Trump is now. There was open call for his assassination and not just by those in the south. Other presidents in history have faced similar situations as well so this is not new, just more in your face do to instant media flashes.

As for the next Civil War, I'm not so sure that it will be a shooting war! Oh it will be a War, but maybe just fought in a very unconventional manner.
 

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So, in the final year of Lincoln's presidency he was hated as much if not more than Trump is now. There was open call for his assassination and not just by those in the south. Other presidents in history have faced similar situations as well so this is not new, just more in your face do to instant media flashes.

As for the next Civil War, I'm not so sure that it will be a shooting war! Oh it will be a War, but maybe just fought in a very unconventional manner.
By your definition, we're already 2 years into the civil war then.
 

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I'm looking for a repeat of the Bolshevik Revolution. This seems to be what TPTB are working up to. Class warfare, get the envious, inferior and inadequate to attack the White middle class. Learn everything you can about the Bolshevik and you will be mentally prepared for what is to come.

Folks need to watch the movie Doctor Zhivago. Does a great job of showing the Bolshevik Revolution.
 

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Social Media Civil War

August 8, 2019 Posted by Raúl Ilargi Meijer at 7:18 pm Finance, Primers Tagged with: Bill Barr, CIA, Civil War, Facebook, FBI, Mitch McConnell, Nenner, social media, Trump, Twitter, violence




Edward Hopper Ground swell 1939


The US government has to come up with very very strong legislation for social media, and it has to do that very soon. Because if it doesn’t, it risks those same social media inciting a civil war (that’s no hyperbole, that is real) on American soil.
And beyond as well, but as Donald Trump said about European efforts to curtail Twitter, Facebook et al’s activities, they’re American companies and hence America’s responsibility. Well, cool, but that means you have to do your job, and you ain’t doing it. Those EU efforts by the way were all about financial issues, tax paying etc., not inciting civil wars or being undemocratic. In short, Brussels doesn’t get it yet either.
Now, the Automatic Earth was kicked off Facebook years ago and never received an explanation for why an account with 1000s of followers was just choked in the bud, so I can’t be expected to celebrate its great achievements for mankind. We still have a Twitter account, but how much longer after I post this essay? There’s no telling, and that is the heart of the entire issue. If I, or you, say anything that anyone at these companies don’t like, they can ban us.
Facebook and Twitter continue to operate on the notion that they are private companies who are entitled to ban anyone they don’t like. In the case of Facebook, that covers half the world population. It’s like running the UN as a private enterprise. And it’s not even the owners or the board, they don’t have time to check who they like or not. Instead, they have hired 10s of 1000s of young -because cheap- kids to do the (shadow-) banning for them.
The companies are all based in Silicon Valley, i.e. California, i.e. NOT Trump territory, and the cheap young kids hired to decide what people can and cannot say on their so-called private platforms reflect that territory and its ideas. But Washington can no longer tolerate that. It must act now. The question is: will it?

Why wouldn’t it? Because Facebook, Twitter, Instagram et al have become the US Intelligence’s dream tools to spy on their own people as well as those abroad. The CIA couldn’t even ever have dreamt of a platform that encompasses 3.5 billion people. But Mark Zuckerberg handed it to them on a platter. My idea is Trump would love to go against them, because they go against him and his voters, but US Intelligence, CIA, FBI, may be holding him back from it. Bad, bad idea.
Picked up Charles Nenner on his war cycles at Greg Hunter’s USA Watchdog site, and I wasn’t terribly convinced at first sight, but that was before I read about Mitch McConnell being threatened at his own house.

Civil War Cycle Heating up in America
“Years ago when we talked about my war cycles, I said I am more worried about internal social war in the United States than outside wars. I think there is a bigger chance in the United States than in Europe. They say it’s Trump’s fault . . . . I say it’s the other way around. If the Democrats would just get things organized and people would not get that angry. . . . The media will always take the other side, so they will never solve it. I think it is the Democrats whose fault it is that all these killings are there and not the Republicans. . . .

So, there is a cycle of social unrest in the United States, which is 60 years old. So, you go back to what happened in the 1960’s. It could explode, and I think it is going to explode, and there is going to be a major problem. . . . I don’t know how bad it is going to be, but based on cycles, it has to be worse than the 1960’s. Each cycle always is worse. . . . WWII was worse than WWI, so every cycle becomes worse than the first cycle. . . . I don’t feel comfortable living in the United States anymore because people are so aggressive on everything.
Nenner also talks in that piece about how he visited Putin, who is interested in the war cycles idea, so maybe I should read up on those war cycles.
But that Mitch McConnell story interferes and disperses into the whole tale. There apparently were groups of people outside his home, caught on video, who were calling for him to be violently attacked. And when his campaign posted a video of these people on Twitter, the campaign’s account was shut down.

“Just Stab The Motherfu*ker”: Twitter Suspends McConnell Campaign For Posting Video Of Violent Threats
“I just want him to have a stroke, that is all,” the woman added. “One of those heart attacks where they can’t breathe, and they’re holding their chest and they fall backwards” “He’s in there nursing his broken arm. He should have broken his raggedy, wrinkled-ass neck,” she said at one point in the video. “Everybody needs to show up wherever this ho is at and make him just regret his fucking life, period,” she added. At one point in the protest, a male protester commenting on McConnell’s recent injury said that he may have been the victim of a “voodoo doll” curse. -Daily Caller

Kevin Golden, McConnell’s 2020 campaign manager noted that “Twitter will allow the words of ‘Massacre Mitch’ to trend nationally on their platform, but locks our account for posting actual threats against us.” Golden says that they appealed to Twitter, which stood by their decision, saying that the account will remain locked until they delete the video. Daily Wire reporter Ryan Saavedra was similarly locked out of his Twitter account for posting the video. “Twitter asked me yesterday to delete this tweet,” Saavedra recounted in a massive tweetstorm. “It showed a person allegedly calling for violence against Mitch McConnell. The person appears to be a BLM activist who has met with Elizabeth Warren.”
And I know, people are going to react to this saying: Oh, it’s Daily Caller, Mitch McConnell, Ryan Saveedra, it’s right wing, but that is so far beyond the point it disqualifies you from any conversation at all. Mitch McConnell, aka MoscowMitch or MassacreMitch, is very far removed from being my favorite person on the planet, but he’s the Senate Majority Leader, and as such an important part of the American political system.
If you don’t like that, there’s a mechanism to express that: the ballot box. Calling for him to be physically attacked right outside the place where he and his family live is not done. Unless perhaps you want the same to happen to you at your residence. But you don’t, do you?
This has nothing to do with left vs right anymore. This is about people who have convinced themselves they are so right in their ideas that anything at all is justified to get their views and their points across, including violence. Well, there’s the seeds of your civil war then.
Now, note that this started well over 3 years ago with the invention out of thin air of Russiagate. Now that that ‘theory’ has been debunked, where are the inventors, i.e. losers, going to hide? Apparently in front of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s home.
And what’s next? Right-wing protesters setting up camp outside Mark Zuckerberg’s home, or Adam Schiff’s, Jerry Nadler’s, Elijah Cummings’? We may not be that far removed from that happening. And if it does, Facebook and Twitter will be crucial in organizing it.
Which is why Trump and AG Bill Barr must come up with very strong rules, very soon, defining what social media are allowed to do and what not. And barring Mitch McConnell’s campaign from posting direct threats to the man uttered mere feet away from where he lives doesn’t seem to be the way forward.
The Age of -corporate- Innocence that Zuck and @jack keep trying to hide behind while counting their billions has long gone. They have become bigger political players than the New York Times, CNN and Jeff Bezos. Stop them now or you risk the 2020 elections leading to outright warfare. Mr. Trump, sir, this is your responsibility more than anyone else’s. You have no choice. But you do have the power.
Not many Americans, far as I can see, take the threat of a civil war seriously, including you, Mr. Trump. But you really should. Take on the social media, and you’re halfway there to preventing it.
https://www.theautomaticearth.com/2019/08/social-media-civil-war/
 

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Has anyone seen the movie series called 'The Purge'?

JUST ONCE I'd like to see that type of movie where all the crazy people show up wearing who knows what, and are confronted with a whole block of people who have their 'block wired' to keep every one connected to each other and ARMED TO THE TEETH WITH LOADS OF AMMO AND LOTS OF PRACTICE BEFORE THIS ALL STARTS.

When it's over, they cut off the heads of all the idiots and post them on pikes in the front lawn, giving visual reminder of WHY the cray-cray should avoid this group of people.

Instead of a bunch of people huddled in their homes afraid of the crazies... which is pretty much how they portray everyone that is not crazy and out on the hunt for weaker people.
 

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Has anyone seen the movie series called 'The Purge'?

JUST ONCE I'd like to see that type of movie where all the crazy people show up wearing who knows what, and are confronted with a whole block of people who have their 'block wired' to keep every one connected to each other and ARMED TO THE TEETH WITH LOADS OF AMMO AND LOTS OF PRACTICE BEFORE THIS ALL STARTS.

When it's over, they cut off the heads of all the idiots and post them on pikes in the front lawn, giving visual reminder of WHY the cray-cray should avoid this group of people.

Instead of a bunch of people huddled in their homes afraid of the crazies... which is pretty much how they portray everyone that is not crazy and out on the hunt for weaker people.
That's a beautiful, feel good story.
:autumn:
It warms my heart and quickens my pulse! I'll start putting up stakes next week!
 

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I have a picture circa 2005 after Katrina. I have not seen it recently.

It's a group of gun owners in a neighborhood where they posted a very large sign that said

YOU LOOT, WE SHOOT

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It's not any these but you get the idea - the one I was thinking about had way more in the picture

And there were about ten maybe twelve people holding guns standing behind the sign

Funny thing was, they were interviewed and they NEVER saw one police squad show up AT ALL to confiscate their weapons.

That's where that actually comes from
 
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coopersmith,

Not sure if that is or is not the one I have, BUT IT WILL DO. THANK YOU SIR...
 

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All of life is a circle. Man has been down this road before. Time and time again.
When these issue came up in Europe the last time ( 2nd part of The Gods of the Copybook Headings)

"...On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
(Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "The Wages of Sin is Death."

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said:
"If you don't work you die."

Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew
And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true
That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!" - Rudyard Kipling