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It's 65 degrees in Antarctica today

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You'd need more layers in Texas today than you would in Antarctica.
On Friday, scientists saw a likely record-breaking 65 degrees Fahrenheit on Antarctica's northernmost tip. The measurement taken at Esperanza Base along Antarctica’s Trinity Peninsula beats out a previous record of 63.5 degrees taken in 2015, and comes just days after the end of the warmest January in the world's recorded history, The Washington Post reports.
The Argentinian base announced Antarctica's T-shirt weather on Friday, but the United Nations' World Meteorological Organization said it would have to confirm the reading before declaring a record. The wave of warm area seems to be tied to a "foehn," or a rush of air that comes down from a slope or mountain and compresses air to warm it, the WMO's climate extremes expert told The Associated Press.
The Antarctic Peninsula has been recorded as one of the fastest-warming regions on Earth, according to the WMO. A huge majority — around 87 percent — of the peninsula's glaciers have continually retreated over the past 50 years, an obvious sign of ongoing global warming. And with no definitive action being taken toward curbing human-caused climate change, glaciologist Eric Steig told the Post we can expect to see these records broken again soon.

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that is fine and all,

but here it was -5 degrees yesterday am and 8 this am,

so that global warming thingy would do great to make it over my way

although admittedly, this winter has been much more mellow than last.

none of that pegging out the truck temp gauge stuff this year, at greater than -30 below, as it was last.
 

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I’ve driven so far this winter avoiding any real dangerous snowfall that would shut me down. Granted I only worked East of i35 for the most part.

I wish every winter was this easy.
 

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It's the middle of the summer at the south pole.

And the glaciers in Greenland are expanding at a rapid rate.
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It would be a good time to explore the area and find mummies and artifacts and such.
 

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It's the middle of the summer at the south pole.

And the glaciers in Greenland are expanding at a rapid rate.
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Oh, yeah?? Well, the opposite happens in the middle of winter! cool::snow:

Hmmm...
 

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Could this be what they are using for climate change? It's very very hard to change an average number quickly. People think in terms of their life instead of centuries. We know there were tropical trees found in Alaska so the "climate change" is in a way accurate.

https://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/c...ifting-by-40-miles-a-year-might-signal-pole-r

Magnetic north shifting by 30 miles a year, might signal pole reversal
The magnetic pole is moving faster than at any time in human history.

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December 18, 2019, 11:37 a.m.



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Magnetic north in the Arctic Circle is shifting so quickly now that it's affecting navigation. (Photo: nenets/Shutterstock)


Whenever you hold a compass, the needle points to magnetic north near the North Pole. For centuries, magnetic north has led navigators and explorers around the world.
But the magnetic north pole is currently shifting at a faster rate than at any time in human history.

"It's moving at about 50 km (30 miles) a year. It didn't move much between 1900 and 1980 but it's really accelerated in the past 40 years," Ciaran Beggan, of the British Geological Survey in Edinburgh, told Reuters.
A five-year update of the World Magnetic Model (WMM) was due in 2020, but that was moved up after the U.S. military requested an early review. A new update to the WMM was released on Dec. 10, following a year of adjustments.
The new model forecasts the northern magnetic pole will continue drifting toward Russia, although at a slowly decreasing speed — down to about 40 kilometers per year compared to the average speed of 55 kilometers (roughly 34 miles) over the past 20 years. The model is the work of the National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI), which is part of NOAA, and the British Geological Survey.
Why it matters
This is a global map of declination and the dip pole locations for 2020. (Photo: NOAA NCEI/CIRES)
The ongoing changes are causing major problems for aviation, navigation and migratory animals that use the Earth's magnetic field to orient themselves. Some airports have even changed the names of their runways to better correspond to their current direction relative to magnetic north.
Ever since the magnetic north pole was first discovered in 1831, geologists have been tracking its progress. Unlike true north (which is marked by the Earth's axis), magnetic north is constantly on the move due to changes in the planet's molten core, which contains iron. Throughout most of recorded history, the pole has been positioned at or around Canada's icy Ellesmere Island, but if it keeps moving at its current rate, it won't be long before it sits above Russia instead.
The thing that really makes the pole's current movement so unusual, however, is the speed at which it's shifting. In the last decade alone, movement has increased by a third, throwing off compasses by roughly 1 degree every five years.
Changes that fast have already caused major headaches for the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration. In 2011, Tampa International Airport in Florida renamed all of its runways, which are named after the degree at which they point on a compass. Similar changes were made to runways at Fort Lauderdale and Palm Beach.
The shifting pole may also become a grave concern for migratory wildlife, such as birds, turtles and other sea creatures that use Earth's magnetic field to navigate over great distances. It's unclear if these animals are capable of recalibrating their navigational instincts to compensate for the changes.
However, the moving pole won't really affect our everyday lives such as using our smartphones or GPS devices. "It doesn't really affect mid or low latitudes," Beggan said. "It wouldn't really affect anyone driving a car."
Will the north pole eventually flip?
But some experts believe that it may be the beginning of a complete pole reversal, according to the Independent.
The rapid shifting of the pole's position has prompted some experts to speculate that the Earth's entire magnetic field may be preparing to "flip," whereby all compasses invert and point south instead of north. It may sound radical, but in geological time, pole reversals are relatively common. Though they typically occur once every 400,000 years or so, it's been 780,000 years since the last flip.
Scientists disagree on how a pole reversal would effect ecosystems around the world, but some alarmists warn of a planet-altering catastrophe, whereby earthquakes and monumental tsunamis threaten the Earth for decades. Though such radical doomsday prophecies cannot be completely ruled out, the vast majority of scientists offer more tempered predictions, says NASA.
"Reversals typically take about 10,000 years to happen," said Jeffrey Love of the U.S. Geological Survey. "And 10,000 years ago civilisation did not exist. These processes are slow, and therefore we don't have anything to worry about."
 

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The thing that really makes the pole's current movement so unusual, however, is the speed at which it's shifting. In the last decade alone, movement has increased by a third, throwing off compasses by roughly 1 degree every five years.
"Reversals typically take about 10,000 years to happen,"
Sounds like this 'flip' is happening pretty fast then. At 1 degree every 5 years, this one- assuming that it has started- should only take 900 years. A relative blink.
 

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It's the middle of the summer at the south pole.

And the glaciers in Greenland are expanding at a rapid rate.
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No, the glaciers in Greenland are not expanding at a rapid rate. One glacier in greenland has had a temporary rebound, the total ice mass of Greenland is still shrinking. Most of the world's glaciers have been shrinking for decades. Stop cherrypicking data to suit your opinions.



https://arctic.noaa.gov/Report-Card/Report-Card-2019/ArtMID/7916/ArticleID/842/Greenland-Ice-Sheet
 

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2019 was 2nd hottest year on record for Earth say NOAA, NASA
NOAA finds ocean heat content was the highest in recorded history

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January 15, 2020 Earth’s warming trend continued in 2019, making it the second-hottest year in NOAA’s 140-year climate record just behind 2016.
A collage of typical climate and weather-related events: heatwaves, drought, hurricanes, wildfires and changes in sea ice coverage.
The world’s five warmest years have all occurred since 2015 with nine of the 10 warmest years occurring since 2005, according to scientists from NOAA's National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI).

It was also the 43rd consecutive year with global land and ocean temperatures, at least nominally, above average.

The average temperature across the globe in 2019 was 1.71 degrees F (0.95 of a degree C) above the 20th-century average and just 0.07 of a degree F (0.04 of a degree C) cooler than the 2016 record.

This animation shows monthly global temperatures compared to the 1981-2010 average for January through December 2019. The last slide shows the departure from average for the entire year.
This animation shows monthly global temperatures compared to the 1981-2010 average for January through December 2019. The last slide shows the departure from average for the entire year. (NOAA NCEI and NOAA Climate.gov)
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Ocean heat content, which describes the amount of heat stored in the upper-levels of the ocean, was the highest ever recorded. High ocean-heat content can contribute to sea-level rise.

2019 as ranked by other scientific organizations
NASA scientists, who conducted a separate but similar analysis, concurred with NOAA’s ranking. NASA also found that 2010-2019 was the hottest decade ever recorded.

Scientists from the United Kingdom Met Office determined that 2019 was one of the top-three hottest years on record, and the World Meteorological Organizationoffsite link also ranked 2019 second warmest for the globe.

A map of the world noting some of the most significant weather climate events of 2019. For more details, see the bullets below in this story and at http://bit.ly/Global201912.
A map of the world noting some of the most significant weather climate events of 2019. For more details, see the bullets below in this story and at http://bit.ly/Global201912.
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More NOAA findings for 2019
The declining state of sea ice: Polar sea ice coverage continued its downward trend in 2019. Both the Arctic and Antarctic oceans recorded their second-smallest average annual sea-ice coverage during the 1979–2019 period of record.

December 2019 was near-record warm: The month was in fact Earth’s second-hottest December on record, logging an average temperature 1.89 degrees F (1.05 degrees C) above the 20th-century average. Only December 2015 was warmer.

Continents baked: Parts of central Europe, Asia, Australia, southern Africa (including the island of Madagascar), New Zealand, Alaska, Mexico and eastern South America had record-high average land temperatures in 2019.

The annual globally averaged sea surface temperature was the second highest on record at 1.39 degrees F (0.77 of a degree C) above the 20th-century average and just behind 2016.

https://www.noaa.gov/news/2019-was-2nd-hottest-year-on-record-for-earth-say-noaa-nasa

Northern Hemisphere snow cover was close to average in 2019, at 9.57 million square miles.
 

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Those are the cherry picked facts? What about on the other side where "cherry picking" seems to be a synonym for outright lying?

https://www.npr.org/2012/02/22/147263862/climate-scientist-admits-to-lying-leaking-documents

It's fun though that we're back to "climate change" meaning "global warming" now that the trend seems to be back toward, ya know, warming and not cooling. I had issues with the mental gymnastics involved with the whole concept that "global warming" actually causes "global cooling". A'la the day after tomorrow. The whole thing is just insane, particularly when one looks at time tables dispensed by alleged "scientists" fear mongering about global warming climate change weather. Every time they make a prediction they're dis-proven, they're no more accurate than religious zealots claiming the world will end by xyz date.

https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/18-s...st-earth-day-in-1970-expect-more-this-year-3/

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Kewl. So how much of an increase in taxes will it take to forestall this imagined disaster that one cannot prove via actual science, ...or more importantly falsify via actual science? The answer always seems to be more money, more power, and more control to the elites and less of the same to the peasants. How much MOAR?!? "MOAR!!!" Weird that.
 
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Just check with TIME magazine.

It is clear that the warming/cooling global cycle is about 20 years.
 

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coronavirus is going to kill us all before we get to see all the glaciers melt

i ran a computer projection last night, and it also indicated, the pole shift will occur regardless, and the projection showed that; sometime tonight, i'll have another beer

those computers sure are smart these days
 

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Those are the cherry picked facts? What about on the other side where "cherry picking" seems to be a synonym for outright lying?

https://www.npr.org/2012/02/22/147263862/climate-scientist-admits-to-lying-leaking-documents

It's fun though that we're back to "climate change" meaning "global warming" now that the trend seems to be back toward, ya know, warming and not cooling. I had issues with the mental gymnastics involved with the whole concept that "global warming" actually causes "global cooling". A'la the day after tomorrow. The whole thing is just insane, particularly when one looks at time tables dispensed by alleged "scientists" fear mongering about global warming climate change weather. Every time they make a prediction they're dis-proven, they're no more accurate than religious zealots claiming the world will end by xyz date.

https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/18-s...st-earth-day-in-1970-expect-more-this-year-3/

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Kewl. So how much of an increase in taxes will it take to forestall this imagined disaster that one cannot prove via actual science, ...or more importantly falsify via actual science? The answer always seems to be more money, more power, and more control to the elites and less of the same to the peasants. How much MOAR?!? "MOAR!!!" Weird that.
Thanks, ya beat me to it.

In the past, Planet Earth has been much hotter AND much colder than it is right now, independent of CO2 levels.. The presumption that 100 years ago is the "right" temperature is a foolish fantasy.
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Fake science used to support government worship/bootlicking is kind of my pet peeve. H8ed it.
 

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We can argue among ourselves 24/7 on this stupid topic (and we will) but at the end of the day nobody described what the Climate Nazis are better than George!! An oldie but he's spot on!
 

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Well, It is toward the end of their Summer down there. (meh)
 

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My online Scrabble friend in Norway told me that after 10 hours of downpour all the snow is gone in her area way up North near the Arctic Circle.
That's "weather" for you...
We also chatted about the BS of Norway deciding to reduce its "greenhouse gas emissions" by one half, and the nomination for the Nobel Prize of Abonimable Greta...
Previously I'd talked with her about the FACT that BY LAW you can look up ANY neighbor's "financial records" = a perfect way to find out who to rob or kidnap for ransom...
"Transparency" has its limits when it infringes on "privacy", imho...
 

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2019 was 2nd hottest year on record for Earth say NOAA, NASA
NOAA finds ocean heat content was the highest in recorded history

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January 15, 2020 Earth’s warming trend continued in 2019, making it the second-hottest year in NOAA’s 140-year climate record just behind 2016.
A collage of typical climate and weather-related events: heatwaves, drought, hurricanes, wildfires and changes in sea ice coverage.
The world’s five warmest years have all occurred since 2015 with nine of the 10 warmest years occurring since 2005, according to scientists from NOAA's National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI).

It was also the 43rd consecutive year with global land and ocean temperatures, at least nominally, above average.

The average temperature across the globe in 2019 was 1.71 degrees F (0.95 of a degree C) above the 20th-century average and just 0.07 of a degree F (0.04 of a degree C) cooler than the 2016 record.

This animation shows monthly global temperatures compared to the 1981-2010 average for January through December 2019. The last slide shows the departure from average for the entire year.
This animation shows monthly global temperatures compared to the 1981-2010 average for January through December 2019. The last slide shows the departure from average for the entire year. (NOAA NCEI and NOAA Climate.gov)
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Ocean heat content, which describes the amount of heat stored in the upper-levels of the ocean, was the highest ever recorded. High ocean-heat content can contribute to sea-level rise.

2019 as ranked by other scientific organizations
NASA scientists, who conducted a separate but similar analysis, concurred with NOAA’s ranking. NASA also found that 2010-2019 was the hottest decade ever recorded.

Scientists from the United Kingdom Met Office determined that 2019 was one of the top-three hottest years on record, and the World Meteorological Organizationoffsite link also ranked 2019 second warmest for the globe.

A map of the world noting some of the most significant weather climate events of 2019. For more details, see the bullets below in this story and at http://bit.ly/Global201912.
A map of the world noting some of the most significant weather climate events of 2019. For more details, see the bullets below in this story and at http://bit.ly/Global201912.
Download Image
More NOAA findings for 2019
The declining state of sea ice: Polar sea ice coverage continued its downward trend in 2019. Both the Arctic and Antarctic oceans recorded their second-smallest average annual sea-ice coverage during the 1979–2019 period of record.

December 2019 was near-record warm: The month was in fact Earth’s second-hottest December on record, logging an average temperature 1.89 degrees F (1.05 degrees C) above the 20th-century average. Only December 2015 was warmer.

Continents baked: Parts of central Europe, Asia, Australia, southern Africa (including the island of Madagascar), New Zealand, Alaska, Mexico and eastern South America had record-high average land temperatures in 2019.

The annual globally averaged sea surface temperature was the second highest on record at 1.39 degrees F (0.77 of a degree C) above the 20th-century average and just behind 2016.

https://www.noaa.gov/news/2019-was-2nd-hottest-year-on-record-for-earth-say-noaa-nasa

Northern Hemisphere snow cover was close to average in 2019, at 9.57 million square miles.
gnome,
Good to see you pop in on occassion. I went through the NOAA site looking for complete list of the 140 years of temps but couldn't find them. Granted, I spent a whole minute on my research. Do you know where I might find them.
Thanking you in advance.
 

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Maybe FAKE NEWS !
(JUMP to the 1:20 min. mark if not interested in other Solar news):
 

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Those are the cherry picked facts? What about on the other side where "cherry picking" seems to be a synonym for outright lying?

https://www.npr.org/2012/02/22/147263862/climate-scientist-admits-to-lying-leaking-documents

It's fun though that we're back to "climate change" meaning "global warming" now that the trend seems to be back toward, ya know, warming and not cooling. I had issues with the mental gymnastics involved with the whole concept that "global warming" actually causes "global cooling". A'la the day after tomorrow. The whole thing is just insane, particularly when one looks at time tables dispensed by alleged "scientists" fear mongering about global warming climate change weather. Every time they make a prediction they're dis-proven, they're no more accurate than religious zealots claiming the world will end by xyz date.

https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/18-s...st-earth-day-in-1970-expect-more-this-year-3/

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Kewl. So how much of an increase in taxes will it take to forestall this imagined disaster that one cannot prove via actual science, ...or more importantly falsify via actual science? The answer always seems to be more money, more power, and more control to the elites and less of the same to the peasants. How much MOAR?!? "MOAR!!!" Weird that.
Global Warming causing Global Cooling would happen if/when the ice sheet over Greenland catastrophically melts and dumps a buttload of COLD fresh (more dense) water into the North Atlantic. It's thought that a large volume of cold, fresh, dense water would sink to the bottom of the N. Atlantic and interrupt the thermohaline conveyor belt (the process that causes the Gulf stream).

If the Gulf Stream is interrupted (either stopped or pushed to a more Southerly route), the Northern latitudes would theoretically experience brutal cold because the Gulf Stream (and the Kuroshio current in the N. Pacific) would no longer bring warm water to keep those coastal areas warm.

The warm currents cool and sink to the bottom in the Arctic waters, and flow back southerly again, then rise up. The entire cycle takes a LONG time - approx. 1k years.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermohaline_circulation
 

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Let's have a scare!

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No, the glaciers in Greenland are not expanding at a rapid rate. One glacier in greenland has had a temporary rebound, the total ice mass of Greenland is still shrinking. Most of the world's glaciers have been shrinking for decades. Stop cherrypicking data to suit your opinions.



https://arctic.noaa.gov/Report-Card/Report-Card-2019/ArtMID/7916/ArticleID/842/Greenland-Ice-Sheet
I wonder what the data would graph for the previous several hundred/thousand years that happened BEFORE the arbitrary start date of your graph...
 

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Most scientists agree that January was the warmest complete month of this (new) decade!
 

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So...? NYC got to -25 F on December 30, 1917 and -26 F on February 09, 1934 did that mean the next ice age was coming? Freak temperatures occur all the time,
 

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I trust the people......... that can't count ballots in Iowa.......... to fix a problem they don't understand............by taking more of my money............ so I can't personally afford to install updates to my home to conserve energy.

Think I'll go throw another tire on the fire, use some old spray cans I found at dads that are 30-40 years old and still work fine & wait for the ozone hole to open up and kill us all.
 

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Nick,

Not ONCE in 45 years have I ever seen one of those guys catch a striper or whatever. Then, I might as well add that I have gone shrimping in (to me) icy cold Floriduh winter water five times.

My total lifetime catch: 1 giant (3") seahorse
 

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Friend from Lond Island brings me Striper every year. Could eat it 4-5 times a week!
 

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Got that right!!
 

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I saw them reel in a bunch on shore yesterday. Today only a few because of rough surf. I regularly see snook too. There was 1 ray yesterday at the jetty.