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Police Shooting So Wrong Philly Agrees To Largest Payout In Dept. History

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Reading that art., it appears that the Philly PD is out-of-control ! Shooting at someone 62 times is just a bit EXCESSIVE !!!
 

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The District Attorney's office declined to press charges in the case. The department's Use of Force Review Board concluded that Farrell and Hanvey had violated department policy.

A police spokesman said the two have been on administrative duty since the shooting, and that "discipline is still pending."
 

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They've been on desk duty since they shot the poor man. Me thinks nothing will be done to them.
 

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WTF would happen to you, if you shot at someone 14 times or 62 times ???
 

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WTF would happen to you, if you shot at someone 14 times or 62 times ???
At the very least.............life behind bars. On the other end of the spectrum..............death penalty.
 

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Ahmen.... LAST RESORT, other police forces around the world seem to get away with a lot less shooting.
I wonder why that is?
 

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I wonder why that is?
It has to be a cultural thing, I think the incidents of police being fired upon was quite low although I have read that its rising. Probably because they shoot so quickly.

Arming the force would, say opponents, undermine the principle of policing by consent - the notion that the force owes its primary duty to the public, rather than to the state, as in other countries.
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-19641398
 

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It has to be a cultural thing, I think the incidents of police being fired upon was quite low although I have read that its rising. Probably because they shoot so quickly.



http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-19641398

I agree with the cultural thing as far as the cops go. They generally don't live in the communities they police and they have a warrior like attitude when dealing with people. Almost like they view regular citizens as some sort of an enemy.

I also think we (the US) are doing something very wrong when it comes to hiring people to be cops. I'd say that we could probably learn a lot from other countries in the way we select, train and actually hire police recruits. No where in the western world do they have police shooting innocent and unarmed people they way we do. Seems to happen almost on a daily basis. And when it does happen most of the time the cops lie through their teeth about what really happened. If it wasn't for them being caught on camera no one would have a clue as to how many times this happens. Really sad when you realize that the very people your tax dollars support feel they are at war with you.
 

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If a bullet leaves a police gun down here they need a DAMN good reason, it results in a shit load of paperwork, an inquiry and with that the possible decision that you will no longer be a police officer. I've never seen an officer unclip thier holster let alone hold a weapon, it is just not done in my experience. Yes they are armed BUT I think most people here would be stunned to see one actually draw a weapon. Thier training is good and the protocols are strong. That said the British Bobby does just as well unarmed, I don't think our guys really need to be armed, I'd rather have a chopper full of specialists on rapid deployment where needed.
 

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I agree with the cultural thing as far as the cops go. They generally don't live in the communities they police and they have a warrior like attitude when dealing with people. Almost like they view regular citizens as some sort of an enemy.

I also think we (the US) are doing something very wrong when it comes to hiring people to be cops. I'd say that we could probably learn a lot from other countries in the way we select, train and actually hire police recruits. No where in the western world do they have police shooting innocent and unarmed people they way we do. Seems to happen almost on a daily basis. And when it does happen most of the time the cops lie through their teeth about what really happened. If it wasn't for them being caught on camera no one would have a clue as to how many times this happens. Really sad when you realize that the very people your tax dollars support feel they are at war with you.
I can't help but wonder if some of this is due to kids coming back from Iraq/Afghan with no other skills other than combat. Police work may be about the only job they can find...
 

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kids coming back from Iraq/Afghan with no other skills other than combat. Police work may be about the only job they can find...
You don't think 16 years of ongoing war is training future cops, house to house raids, and it was planned this way? Police are not Reed & Maloy or Andy & Barney anymore.
 

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"Holland had one mark on his record - the week before he was shot, he was arrested on a domestic violence change - during an argument he threw a cellphone at his girlfriend, striking her. A judge required him to attend anger-management classes."

The police were called, and, he was arrested for throwing a cell phone?