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No, I dont think its a BR. The 'fiddle' on the back of the BR is hard to mistake.
I'm pretty certain its a male

Kukulcania hibernalis

(Southern House Spider)


However they look a lot alike and my pics arent that good.
Look at the jaw position and compare (called pedipalps (apparently ;) ) Yours does have the fiddle. Would be best if we could distinguish the eyes. The jaw (pedipalps) in your pic looks much more like that of a recluse to me.
I could be wrong. Here's a reference I looked at http://spiderbytes.org/2015/06/08/how-to-tell-if-a-spider-is-not-a-brown-recluse/
 

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Look at the jaw position and compare (called pedipalps (apparently ;) ) Yours does have the fiddle. Would be best if we could distinguish the eyes. The jaw (pedipalps) in your pic looks much more like that of a recluse to me.
I could be wrong. Here's a reference I looked at http://spiderbytes.org/2015/06/08/how-to-tell-if-a-spider-is-not-a-brown-recluse/
You say it has the fiddle shape but the BRa's I've seen have an indistinguishable violin shape comparatively. This resembles the shape but not close enough for me to affirm in the brief time and poor pic quality. All I have to go on is the very limited experience i have, based on what Ive been told and seen. I'm trying to use this as a learning experience along with you so appreciate the input. Reading at that link now.
 
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Im really curious about the movement of these critters. The one I photographed has a distinct gate that was the most notable feature for me.

See how similar they (fiddle shape)

are:
(Male southern house spider)
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@Goldhedge , you want to take a stab at the bird ID?
 

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Ok, Im pretty sure it is a Brown Recluse. Based off the 2 things coming off the head, it tipped the scale. The SH spider's thingies are longer and closer together.

Most Brs ive seen looked more like this: (like something Goldhedge would craft :))

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The other thing throwing me off is the difference in abdomen size between online pics and mine. My guy's rather svelte in that regard.
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You say it has the fiddle shape but the BRa's I've seen have an indistinguishable violin shape comparatively. This resembles the shape but not close enough for me to affirm in the brief time and poor pic quality. All I have to go on is the very limited experience i have, based on what Ive been told and seen. I'm trying to use this as a learning experience along with you so appreciate the input. Reading at that link now.

Yep, I am far from an expert. Always learning. I don't know everything and bug identification can sometimes be exceedingly difficult.

This is a case where I hope I am wrong.
 

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BACON :2 thumbs up:
 

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Yep, I am far from an expert. Always learning. I don't know everything and bug identification can sometimes be exceedingly difficult.

This is a case where I hope I am wrong.
I know an entomologist. Which 'bug' are you attempting to ID?
 

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Yeah. I was calculating how much she had given and came up with,
A LOT.
Hams tooo.

First and last batch for her as she will forego life in about 8 weeks in order to give us fresh pork in September.

Chicken hatched one chick and it is blind and about to die.
 

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I am really bad at low wing planes, and doubly so on twins. But I'll throw a probably wrong guess. Seneca?
 

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The sunset on the way home tonight

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Guys...

That is a fargin Brown Recluse.

Positing for a moment that it is a totally harmless shape-shifter and not really a Brown Recluse, the proper (and necessary) thing to do is IMMEDIATELY STOMP ON IT.

Wear shoes.
 

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I know an entomologist. Which 'bug' are you attempting to ID?
This one that newmisty posted. Another set of eyes wouldn't hurt! :beer:
Link:
https://goldismoney2.com/threads/the-new-random-pictures-thread.290548/post-2216069
Bug doctor said she'd have to see the eyes to ID it. She also said "It looks 'spent'"

Edit to add:

Actually, there is a fiddle, but that alone doesn't make it a brown recluse. It really depends on the eyes and where it's from. BRs have a pretty limited range, basically the Ohio River valley, not found in CO unless it came in a shipment of stuff from its native home. Even there they're pretty rare. And that one isn't doing anyone any harm. It's a little suspicious that the fiddle is visible given the general state of that specimen. . .​
Dr. Vetter is a premier spider guy.​
 
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Bug doctor said she'd have to see the eyes to ID it. She also said "It looks 'spent'"
I agree, seeing the spacing of the eyes would be the best way to ID.

Most similar species has a very different pedipalps (the short appendages on the front). Recluses have widely spaced ones, like Newmisty's photo shows, where that other species they are closer in.

I'm not 100% though and maybe there is another even more similar species that I am not familiar with.

Thanks for looking. Maybe you can help ID this next one... :)
 

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Damselfly. Sorry no size reference. It resembles various Bluets (Doubleday's Bluet, Circumpolar Bluet, Boreal Bluet) and others. Shoot I don't think I'll ever know what it is. :)

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Bug doctor said she'd have to see the eyes to ID it. She also said "It looks 'spent'"

Edit to add:

Actually, there is a fiddle, but that alone doesn't make it a brown recluse. It really depends on the eyes and where it's from. BRs have a pretty limited range, basically the Ohio River valley, not found in CO unless it came in a shipment of stuff from its native home. Even there they're pretty rare. And that one isn't doing anyone any harm. It's a little suspicious that the fiddle is visible given the general state of that specimen. . .​
Dr. Vetter is a premier spider guy.​
It was in the high end crawlspace, doing his thing looking for bug snacks. Found him rather charming due to his mello, graceful gate.
 

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Been digging the perfectly color coordinated wild flowers this week

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It was in the high end crawlspace, doing his thing looking for bug snacks. Found him rather charming due to his mello, graceful gate.
I think she was asking geographical area... If you still have the lil guy get a better photo op?
 

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I think she was asking geographical area... If you still have the lil guy get a better photo op?
Long gone. Now I know to try & shoot the eyes.
 

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Looks like I got the species correct!

Also looks as if he hit a window....
 

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Looks like I got the species correct!

Also looks as if he hit a window....
Yes, 2 large south facing picture windows and 2 sets of 6' full light sliders. Has had to put stuff up to alert them.
 

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Weird timing. Looks like a downy woodpecker hit one of my windows this morning. Giving it some time, not sure if it's going to recover and I have to head in to the office in a bit so I guess I will find out when I get back. I hope by then it has either flown away or died, hate to say that but I really don't want to have to finish it off.
 

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We canned a few beans a couple of days ago. Putting up the extra as it comes in.

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Weird timing. Looks like a downy woodpecker hit one of my windows this morning. Giving it some time, not sure if it's going to recover and I have to head in to the office in a bit so I guess I will find out when I get back. I hope by then it has either flown away or died, hate to say that but I really don't want to have to finish it off.

Sad to report, he did not recover. Paralyzed best I can tell and already was covered with ants and clearly suffering. I put him out of his misery and buried him.
 

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Gray Hairstreak butterfly
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Eastern Tiger Swallowtail
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Eastern Tailed Blue butterfly
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