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Even the libs know that Trump got it right.
President Donald Trump has been a disappointment in many ways. He’s inspired a fanatical leftist counter-reaction. The racial dissident movement is weaker after his first year in office than it was before he was elected. And the demographic transformation of America continues.

Yet we should not regret his election, for President Trump has the singular ability to reveal truths our opponents would prefer to leave unspoken. Sometimes, he bluntly announces these truths himself. Sometimes, the reactions of his foes speak more loudly than even he ever could. Both phenomena are at work in “Shitholegate,” a media firestorm that despite its crudity has sparked what may be the single most important debate on immigration policy since the Jordan Commission.

According to Senator Dick Durbin, President Trump questioned why the United States continues to accept immigrants from “shithole” Africa countries and Haiti. Senator Durbin took it upon himself to leak these comments to the press, which duly reacted with outrage. “Shitholegate” may be the single largest scandal of President Trump’s administration, at least in terms of media reaction.

It is revealing that Senator Durbin felt justified in releasing comments from a private conversation. Such an action, as Senate Republicans have pointed out, show Democrats were never serious about negotiating an immigration compromise.

We don’t even know if President Trump used the exact words Senator Durbin says he did, since no Republicans seem to be backing his account, and the White House has denied it. But even assuming Senator Durbin’s account is correct, immediately repeating the contents of a private conversation to hostile outsiders is more than a breach of trust. It makes ordinary conversation impossible, since no one has the right to question orthodoxy, even in private.

Of course, that’s precisely the kind of country we live in today. And, as is entirely typical in these cases, the outrage over “Shitholegate” is over the term the president used, not whether what he said was true or false. Essentially, the President of the United States is being accused of blasphemy, dissenting from the unexamined contention that African nations are wonderful, and immigrants from them benefit us.. Every screaming editorial, outraged TV journalist, and expletive-laden tweet can be summarized thus: He’s not allowed to say that.

What makes this maddening is that not only is President Trump right, but the immigration position of his opponents is dependent on his being right. Of course those nations are “shitholes.” If they weren’t, leftists wouldn’t have to argue that their citizens should be allowed to stay.

One of the countries President Trump was supposedly referring to was El Salvador. Because of an earthquake back in 2001, 200,000 Salvadorans—whether here legally or illegally—got temporary permission to stay in the United States. Critics say they should not be sent back to a poor country plagued by gang violence. In other words, even though there is no extraordinary emergency in El Salvador, we shouldn’t send Salvadorans back home because it is, in fact, a shithole.

It was only a short time ago the horrific nature of these nations was used to explain why their citizens want to come here. Senator Lindsey Graham, one of the most prominent open-borders Republicans, called Mexico a “hellhole” in 2013, not to insult Mexico, but to explain why Mexicans want to leave. Likewise, few still pretend that the migrants flooding Europe really are Syrians fleeing civil war. The main reason they come is to escape poverty; their countries are shitholes.

President Trump is actually agreeing with the Left’s analysis. But since he intends to use the argument to limit immigration rather than encourage it, it becomes immoral. Race realists see this game all the time. If Jared Taylor points out America will soon become majority non-white, it is alarmist and offensive. If a leftist does it, it is positive and praiseworthy.

President Trump also says he wants more immigration from Europe, and this has prompted the usual absurdities from the Beltway Right. Erick Erickson, the original “cuckservative,” tells us African immigrants are preferable to “socialist” immigrants from Norway. David French’s wife Nancy complains that the president thinks her adopted Ethiopian daughter comes from a ”shithole” country. Well, if she didn’t, the Frenches wouldn’t have any reason to brag about having adopted her.

Former CIA head John Brennan even claims that “Lady Liberty” and the Founding Fathers are “weeping” over President Trump’s statements. Of course, the Founding Fathers were by today’s unabashed standards white nationalists. As for Haiti, they refused to recognize the Haitian government and Thomas Jefferson called the slave revolt “a terrible engine, absolutely ungovernable,” and hoped France could suppress it. The Founding Fathers, would, if anything, think President Trump was a dangerous egalitarian.

Many commentators assert that regardless of what Americans themselves want, the country will only grow more “diverse.” Mexican President Vicente tweeted that not even the president can say who is welcome in the US and who is not, suggesting that it is illegitimate to limit immigration from anywhere. America therefore does not really exist except as a pile of wealth to be taken by anyone who shows up. It does not have identity, interests, or an independent existence. Therefore, it cannot exercise any discrimination in admitting new residents. A “moral” immigration policy, in this conception, is essentially the death knell for America.

But facts matter, and racial reality asserts itself in the performance of different groups once they arrive. Reason magazine tells us it doesn’t matter where you come from, “it matters what you do while you are here.” But most nonwhite immigrants get on welfare at rates far exceeding that of European immigrants, but this is precisely what we are not allowed to debate. The whole point of the media hysteria is to avoid any discussion of what kind of society Third World immigration brings.

And leftists knows this. When it comes to where to live, where to go to school, and where to buy property, leftists, like everyone else, avoid bad neighborhoods. Their attempts to pretend they don’t notice differences between neighborhoods and nations is self-discrediting. As Steve Sailer points out, using a “diversity visa” or random admissions for universities such as Stanford would destroy the quality of the university, yet status-conscious liberals pretend these things are good for America.

Even Rich Lowry of National Review scored a victory when he asked Joan Walsh of The Nation if she would rather live in Norway or Haiti. She refused to answer, tacitly conceding his point. When angry liberals say they are going to leave the country if a Republican wins the White House, they say they are going to Canada or Europe. No one says he is going to Mexico, and certainly not Haiti.


October 3, 2016 – Port-au-Prince , Oeste, Haità – A view of Cite Soleil, a slum in Port-au-Prince that houses thousands of Haitians. EPA/Bahare Khodabande (Credit Image: © Bahare Khodabande/EFE via ZUMA Press)

Of course, there is a problem with looking at country of origin as the source for immigration. Because of immigration which has already occurred overseas, it is no longer clear who is coming from Britain or France. It is not geography but genetics that predict future performance. Whites from South Africa will perform better in the United States than Senegalese whose passports say they are French. Black Americans, despite being here for centuries, have created cities and neighborhoods that can be characterized as “shitholes,” forcing most Americans to figure out ways to escape them without admitting what they are doing.

If you go by what people do, rather than that what they say, nearly everyone agrees with President Trump. Yet we are witnessing a blunt attempt to shut down debate and police speech in order to promote an open-borders immigration policy. As global demographics change, borders become increasingly necessary. Every person reading this and especially every Third World immigrant knows that Donald Trump has done nothing more than shine a light on harsh reality.

It remains for race realists to explain why it is not only permissible, but moral to resist replacement. Public policy should not be defined by cowardice and hypocrisy. And America was not founded in order to become just another shithole.
 

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Sorry, but that is an extremely lackluster attempt to obfuscate what is essentially a degrading, uneducated and ignorant attack on people poorer than the elite.

Trump's ideas about who is worthy to come to America are not only severely flawed but also show his complete ignorance in terms of root causes and why so many people live and fall into poor conditions in the first place - but of course he wouldn't understand those root causes (corruption, crime, absolute elite power,...) because he has become richer from all those things, unlike the rest of the workers of the world who have suffered from them - including the workers of America!

Trump boasts about the crimes and the scams of his past. He talks about his numerous bankruptcies as if those were super bowl rings. He constantly boasts about using his status and wealth to take advantage of women, workers, and people of races other than his. Trump is an idiot and as I've said before better to have a stupid criminal 'n chief than a smart criminal 'n chief.

Making America Great Again - Exposing his own flaws, which are the same flaws the elite hold but never allow to be seen.
 
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Sorry but he was 1000% right, they are shithole countries, when I was 7 they were collecting for pagan babies in the poor African countries, im now 67 and they are still collecting for these same shithole countries. It is what it is and being politically correct does not change it, these people breed. They need to send them birth control or neuter them at birth, this will never end.

Sorry, but that is an extremely lackluster attempt to obfuscate what is essentially a degrading, uneducated and ignorant attack on people poorer than the elite.

Trump's ideas about who is worthy to come to America are not only severely flawed but also show his complete ignorance in terms of root causes and why so many people live and fall into poor conditions in the first place - but of course he wouldn't understand those root causes (corruption, crime, absolute elite power,...) because he has become richer from all those things, unlike the rest of the workers of the world who have suffered from them - including the workers of America!


Making America Great Again - Exposing his own flaws, which are the same flaws the elite hold but never allow to be seen.
 

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Every person reading this and especially every Third World immigrant knows that Donald Trump has done nothing more than shine a light on harsh reality.

And America was not founded in order to become just another shithole.
Great article. President Trump used the reliable idiot dick durban to rocket a narrative that nobody had the balls to discuss right to the top of all the media.
And the media took the bait and ran like a spring steelhead.

.MAGA!
 

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A country isn't a race so there's that. Stupid people, supposedly smart are claiming racism.

Will anyone look at why these countries are shitholes? Place the blame square on the rulers. There have been many leaders, even of the U.S trying to bring the U.S. down to third world status.

Thanks for pointing out the unspoken but obvious Mr. President.
 

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Sorry, but that is an extremely lackluster attempt to obfuscate what is essentially a degrading, uneducated and ignorant attack on people poorer than the elite.

Trump's ideas about who is worthy to come to America are not only severely flawed but also show his complete ignorance in terms of root causes and why so many people live and fall into poor conditions in the first place - but of course he wouldn't understand those root causes (corruption, crime, absolute elite power,...) because he has become richer from all those things, unlike the rest of the workers of the world who have suffered from them - including the workers of America!

Trump boasts about the crimes and the scams of his past. He talks about his numerous bankruptcies as if those were super bowl rings. He constantly boasts about using his status and wealth to take advantage of women, workers, and people of races other than his. Trump is an idiot and as I've said before better to have a stupid criminal 'n chief than a smart criminal 'n chief.

Making America Great Again - Exposing his own flaws, which are the same flaws the elite hold but never allow to be seen.
Stop being an idiot of the media!
 

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Great article. President Trump used the reliable idiot dick durban to rocket a narrative that nobody had the balls to discuss right to the top of all the media.
And the media took the bait and ran like a spring steelhead.

.MAGA!
Calling out other country's much poorer than your own and then exalting another symptom issues onto the front burner of the MSM, instead of actually explaining the TRUTH about ROOT CAUSES and the LESSONS of HISTORY , then while this debate may carry on for a very long time, the real agenda and the very real concerns of liberty, freedom, the pursuit of happiness and increasing prosperity will NOT.

At GIM1, the symptom issues also took over for a long period of time. But a focus on the symptoms does not and never has extracted anyone or anything from the disease. At GIM1, that realization eventually took hold but the truth is the MORTAL ENEMY of the state.

The whole drama about this issue, the terms used by Trump and the global response - it is really just one very large distraction.

Now where's my "Distractions, Deceptions and Divisions" thread?.... Oh, that's right, don't look for it, you won't find it.

Wonder how long it will be until the world moves on to the next symptom issue? Probably a week or so and we'll be on to the next one...

And of course, if things quiet down, we can always pull out the NK issue.

Making American Great Again - One Drama After the Next
 

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Not sure how many CNN reporters talk about root causes, I don't watch them, ...

but when the debate dissolves into some comment about the poster and not about what was posted - that is when the debate is over, regardless how incorrect the comment was.
 

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A country isn't a race so there's that. Stupid people, supposedly smart are claiming racism.

Will anyone look at why these countries are shitholes? Place the blame square on the rulers. There have been many leaders, even of the U.S trying to bring the U.S. down to third world status.

Thanks for pointing out the unspoken but obvious Mr. President.
Southfork knocked it out of the park with one sentence. It's 100% true.

Sorry but he was 1000% right, they are shithole countries, when I was 7 they were collecting for pagan babies in the poor African countries, im now 67 and they are still collecting for these same shithole countries.
Not one fucking thing has changed in all those years.



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Southfork knocked it out of the park with one sentence. It's 100% true.
I read the comment, it does NOT qualify as "knocking anything out of the park" nor does it get even close to root causes. Those leaders are criminals, just like our own criminal 'n chief. There, that gets you a little further to the root cause. If criminals and turf wars solved problems then we'd have paradise around the world already.
 

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A country isn't a race so there's that. Stupid people, supposedly smart are claiming racism.

Will anyone look at why these countries are shitholes? Place the blame square on the rulers. There have been many leaders, even of the U.S trying to bring the U.S. down to third world status.

Thanks for pointing out the unspoken but obvious Mr. President.
Racism is ALL the democrats, progressives, and never Trumpers have. They play that card over and over and over.
 

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I read the comment, it does NOT qualify as "knocking anything out of the park" nor does it get even close to root causes. Those leaders are criminals, just like our own criminal 'n chief. There, that gets you a little further to the root cause. If criminals and turf wars solved problems then we'd have paradise around the world already.
When was the last time or first time for that matter a leader said anything about a country being a shitholes?
 

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When was the last time or first time for that matter a leader said anything about a country being a shitholes?
Well the elite's underlings don't usually use that particular word in front of the sheeple. So what's your point? There used to not be ultimate fighting either, it was all done in a boxing ring. Just because the elite are ratcheting up the drama, with the new crime family in the top dog seat instead of the last series of crime families, doesn't really change anything does it? I don't think it's about what they say or the way they say it , I think it's more about what they do and who they do it to.
 

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Well the elite's underlings don't usually use that particular word in front of the sheeple. So what's your point? There used to not be ultimate fighting either, it was all done in a boxing ring. Just because the elite are ratcheting up the drama, with the new crime family in the top dog seat instead of the last series of crime families, doesn't really change anything does it? I don't think it's about what they say or the way they say it , I think it's more about what they do and who they do it to.
I'm not expecting DJT to solve the world's problems. That is our job. He brings a lot out in the open to be confronted. The debate was about immigration but how quickly it has become a discussion of how other countries are.
 

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I'm not expecting DJT to solve the world's problems. That is our job. He brings a lot out in the open ....
Yes, he does. All the drama and all the symptom issues. Solve the root causes and the immigration issues eventually just go away on their own. So do the poverty issues around the world, but just saying..

Anyway, our job? Well lets see... maybe if I declare bankruptcy 5 times and if everybody does the same then the world's problems go away, is that what you mean by following Trump's lead? Because "our job?" I just simply have no clue what that entails or how that actually works?
 

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Yes, he does. All the drama and all the symptom issues. Solve the root causes and the immigration issues eventually just go away on their own. So do the poverty issues around the world, but just saying..

Anyway, our job? Well lets see... maybe if I declare bankruptcy 5 times and if everybody does the same then the world's problems go away, is that what you mean by following Trump's lead? Because "our job?" I just simply have no clue what that entails or how that actually works?
C'mon man, have given up already?
 

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Yes, he does. All the drama and all the symptom issues. Solve the root causes and the immigration issues eventually just go away on their own. So do the poverty issues around the world, but just saying..

Anyway, our job? Well lets see... maybe if I declare bankruptcy 5 times and if everybody does the same then the world's problems go away, is that what you mean by following Trump's lead? Because "our job?" I just simply have no clue what that entails or how that actually works?
Declaring bankruptcy isn't against the law and shows good business sense in the long run. Why the left keeps harping on that is a mystery.

True, he doesn't speak like the silver tongued devil of yore... er I mean eloquently read a prepared speech from a teleprompter... but Trump knows how to win at business and win big. Football teams lose games all the time...but they still keep trying to win!

America loves him because he speaks just like they do. Haiti is a shit hole! It doesn't mean America is racist and should lead the KKK as the left is screaming (meanwhile, Opera suddenly quit being the 'POTUS in waiting' front page news).

Why do we have to solve the world's poverty issues? We have our own issues to solve.

Let's not forget that Haiti is on an island. 1/2 of an island and the Dominican Republic has the other half. The Haitian side is a shit hole. Why?

Maybe it's because they practice Voodoo as a religion? The DR is Christian. They still have forests!

Maybe it's because they really are a backward people with no business sense on how to run a nation?

Maybe they should submit to DR government and everything would change because it's clear what they ARE doing isn't working.

That is if the DR would have them...
 

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Declaring bankruptcy isn't against the law and shows good business sense in the long run. Why the left keeps harping on that is a mystery.
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I harp on that #1, and TU #2 because it shows a pattern. Using the system to his advantage regardless regardless implications to working people. 1. As a member of the elite, he can use the bankruptcy courts to his advantage where average workers and small business would not be able to. 2. As the founder of a school by his name, he should have known it was a scam from top to bottom.

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True, he doesn't speak like the silver tongued devil of yore... er I mean eloquently read a prepared speech from a teleprompter... but Trump knows how to win at business and win big. Football teams lose games all the time...but they still keep trying to win!

America loves him because he speaks just like they do. Haiti is a shit hole! It doesn't mean America is racist and should lead the KKK as the left is screaming (meanwhile, Opera suddenly quit being the 'POTUS in waiting' front page news).

Why do we have to solve the world's poverty issues? We have our own issues to solve...
A symptom issue is picked for the debate always. The drama seals the deal for the sheeple. Trump has the world focused on the symptoms, NK and global issues all over the map. Behind the curtain, long removed from where the show is going on, the elite pick up their thefts. I don't know if Trump is on their payroll or just trying to increase his own but in terms of us, the workers, forget it.

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Maybe they should submit to DR government and everything would change because it's clear what they ARE doing isn't working.

That is if the DR would have them...
Symptoms and yes, our very own POTUS should go down there and set them straight.

Making America Great Again - Exposing One shithole at a time.
 
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I read the comment, it does NOT qualify as "knocking anything out of the park" nor does it get even close to root causes. Those leaders are criminals, just like our own criminal 'n chief. There, that gets you a little further to the root cause. If criminals and turf wars solved problems then we'd have paradise around the world already.
The really Funny part is your obvious hatred of Trump is so blinding that you cannot see that you wrote the same thing that SF said—that it’s the shithole countries leaders fault.
 

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The really Funny part is your obvious hatred of Trump is so blinding that you cannot see that you wrote the same thing that SF said—that it’s the shithole countries leaders fault.
I didn't. What I said is "corrupt systems and corrupt criminals and their criminal underlings (politicians) all around the world". If I didn't say it well enough then I should have, sorry.

Fact of the matter is this, the show we see being portrayed by Trump and others, even if it were true to the point, isn't helpful.

I imagine countries like south africa actually import some amount of products from us, and now with these comments pinging around the globe maybe they''ll look to switch to another supplier. Trump could have easily just said, "no deal" and left the meeting.
 

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The scatstorm is portrayed by the media, not Trump....never forget who is the real enemy.
 

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Were funnymoney's folks on the last slave ship in 1860 at 10 years old, conceived him at age 50 and now he is an angry 117 year old black guy celebrating a birthday next month? I'll send you a card if you send me your address.
 

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Here's is the ultimate shithole country - Liberia. If you have never seen this video, it is a must watch. Once you start watching, you won't be able to stop - it is riveting. THE BIGGEST SHITHOLE ON THE PLANET, BAR NONE. It starts towards the middle because that is where I was on the video (2nd time) and it didn't reset at the start.

The Cannibal Warlords of Liberia

https://video.vice.com/en_us/video/the-cannibal-warlords-of-liberia/560a7cac7676b705187e64f7

 

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Were funnymoney's folks on the last slave ship in 1860 at 10 years old, conceived him at age 50 and now he is an angry 117 year old black guy celebrating a birthday next month? I'll send you a card if you send me your address.
I'm actually not sure how to respond to that other than when the debate dissolves into a conversation about the personal traits of the poster and not about the contents of the post usually the debate is over.

I will say that there's been a lot of past suffering around the globe and today that continues. Most Americans probably fare better than many places around the world but that's just probably because when the elite steal half of everything you have that ends up being worse for those who have less to start out with. And I would add that slavery may be something that returns to our planet in fairly short order if TPTB have their way, so we might learn something from the history you mentioned.

I'm usually in support of the workers of the world, including American workers, regardless their background. But I also support our vets because what the current and past administrations have done in terms of taking care of them and their families has been nothing short of a shame or worse. This regardless the fact they shouldn't have been placed into harms way in the first place, because that wasn't their doing. it was Trump's or Obama's or Bush's or rather all of them.

About me? Not sure how or why I would be important. Anonymous Internet posting doesn't pay me anything. Well sometimes , some knowledge about something. But rarely actionable intelligence. Your post isn't any exception, but I do have a very old address for you, it may not be 117 yrs. but take a look, I'm sure you'll find something interesting about it....
450 Auburn Ave NE, Atlanta, GA 30312
 

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Here's is the ultimate shithole country - Liberia. If you have never seen this video, it is a must watch. Once you start watching, you won't be able to stop - it is riveting. THE BIGGEST SHITHOLE ON THE PLANET, BAR NONE. It starts towards the middle because that is where I was on the video (2nd time) and it didn't reset at the start.

The Cannibal Warlords of Liberia

https://video.vice.com/en_us/video/the-cannibal-warlords-of-liberia/560a7cac7676b705187e64f7

Watched the whole thing , thanks.
Ending says 2012.
I wonder what sitrep is the now.

I have been to East Africa.
In places it does not look much dif than parts of this film.

We, in this country, have no clue as to our blessings.
 

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African “Sh*tholes” Continue To Accept Economic Aid From The United States
According to “anonymous sources,” reported first by The Washington Post, President Donald J. Trump referred to African countries, specifically including Haiti, as “shitholes.” The derogative reference to Sub-Saharan African countries, referring to the countries’ extremely high poverty rates and a disproportionate amount of tribal violence, took the world by storm and triggered millions of people worldwide.

Despite the approximately $8.3B in economic assistance provided by the United States to the Sub-Saharan African region in 2017, many critics are quick to condemn the American leader as a “racist.” The majority of this aid has gone towards emergency responses, HIV/AIDS, and to help stop internal conflict within African countries.

Interestingly enough, no African country has retaliated against Trump’s alleged remark by refusing American aid. American aid to developing countries is a hallmark of the international American presence that provides billions of dollars in federal spending on assisting the countries that President Trump allegedly referred to as “shitholes.”


There is no reason to believe that Haiti, or any other African country, will begin refusing aid from the United States in wake of President Trump’s remark.

Reached for comment about the article, White House spokesperson Raj Shahdid not deny the “shithole” remark, but instead said in a statement that Trump “is fighting for permanent solutions that make our country stronger by welcoming those who can contribute to our society, grow our economy and assimilate into our great nation.” Maybe, just maybe, accepting large amounts of impoverished third-world immigrants is not a sustainable model of economic growth.

A Ghanaian man by the name of Kwamena Agyapong provided the following statement on the subject:

“The problem you Westerners have is too much luxury. You have solved your plagues, famines, and mass starvation problems long ago. You have nothing better to worry about. My country is still figuring out how to make clean water available to some towns… My entire country is pissed at Trump for some reason… As if we didn’t all know we lived in a shithole already.”

Nonetheless, the entire situation has spiraled into an international debate on the nature of culture and nationality, and whether or not one particular civilization can be considered objectively superior to another. Twitter is currently filled with virtue-signaling and objections to the idea that certain African regions possess astronomical rates of poverty andviolence. With the hashtag #WhatMakesMyCountryAShithole, South Africans are claiming to be the absolute epicenter of international tourism, culture, and energy production.

President Trump has not yet recognized the derogative remark, claiming to only have referred to Haiti as a ” a very poor and troubled country,” and that he has a “wonderful relationship with Haitians.”
 

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NEWS FLASH Trump said "people coming from crappy countries" and fake news translated that to "shit hole" because they are fake news assholes and smell like assholes & thought he was talking about them.
 

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He wasn t referencing the people,
He was referencing the environment the people are living in.
AND the fact that that environment
Was sending us , by OUR OWN invitation,
People here on a lottery system type of immigration plan.
A host of other countries have a merit based method of entry.
For what reasons cannot we ?
Again,
The whole lot of do gooders wanna let ANYONE in ,
In the name of " diversity " , all on tye bases of taking care of them with TAX money or entitlement programs.
Not one SOB politician is gonna " sponsor " anyone.
Its all based on the ability to garnish my our your money or future spending power to do their alturistic fd up programs.
Its ALL connected.

Further more...Biden, Barry...not to mention Hillary...spews off profane tirades and no one blinks...
They had rappers and Beyonce up on stage performing profane lyric laced stuff to try and get elected.
Last week, while presenting an award to Meryl Streep that asshat not named by me on purpose actor went on a peofane tirade in front of everyone....so whats the REAL issue ???
The REAL issue is somehow...someway..money and free shite from somewhere. No more free shite is such a dangerous thing for society.

The whole thing against Trump is pathetic.
MAGA , go Trump.
 

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I'm actually not sure how to respond to that other than when the debate dissolves into a conversation about the personal traits of the poster and not about the contents of the post usually the debate is over.

I will say that there's been a lot of past suffering around the globe and today that continues. Most Americans probably fare better than many places around the world but that's just probably because when the elite steal half of everything you have that ends up being worse for those who have less to start out with. And I would add that slavery may be something that returns to our planet in fairly short order if TPTB have their way, so we might learn something from the history you mentioned.

I'm usually in support of the workers of the world, including American workers, regardless their background. But I also support our vets because what the current and past administrations have done in terms of taking care of them and their families has been nothing short of a shame or worse. This regardless the fact they shouldn't have been placed into harms way in the first place, because that wasn't their doing. it was Trump's or Obama's or Bush's or rather all of them.

About me? Not sure how or why I would be important. Anonymous Internet posting doesn't pay me anything. Well sometimes , some knowledge about something. But rarely actionable intelligence. Your post isn't any exception, but I do have a very old address for you, it may not be 117 yrs. but take a look, I'm sure you'll find something interesting about it....
450 Auburn Ave NE, Atlanta, GA 30312
Sorry about putting your name in my post. Alcohol and anger sometimes don't mix well. I do believe, though, a 117 year old American citizen born to previous slaves owned by American citizens deserves my tax dollars more than a Haitian refugee.
 

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NEWS FLASH Trump said "people coming from crappy countries" and fake news translated that to "shit hole" because they are fake news assholes and smell like assholes & thought he was talking about them.
The MSM manufactures the news then reports it
 

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1 minute video of Joe Biden talking about the unrelenting flood of people from SHITHOLES coming to the US - that will never stop. And that European ancestry Americans are now the minority - and that is a good thing.

 

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1 minute video of Joe Biden talking about the unrelenting flood of people from SHITHOLES coming to the US - that will never stop. And that European ancestry Americans are now the minority - and that is a good thing.

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MLK’s Niece: “Donald Trump Is Not a Racist… There Are Countries in Africa That Are Indeed Hellholes” (VIDEO)
January 13, 2018 by Jim Hoft 74 Comments

Dr. Martin Luther King’s niece Alveda King defended President Donald Trump on Saturday.
Democrats and the liberal media were outraged this week after it was reported that President Trump questioned senators on why the United States should continue to bring in migrants from “sh*thole” nations.

Democrats and their media immediately began calling the president a racist over his factual remarks.

On Saturday Dr. Alveda King defended the president.

Alveda King: “President Trump is not a racist and calling him a racist is outrageous and unjust. There are countries in Africa that are indeed hellholes.”

Of course, before Donald Trump ran for president — as a Republican — he was celebrated in the black community.