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Trump To Use Executive Order To Allocate More Funds To Wall, Avoiding Shutdown



by Tyler Durden

Wed, 02/13/2019 - 08:40


Update: In an interesting twist, it looks like Trump has decided on a middle path that will allow him to keep the government open while getting more of his border wall built than Congress had initially authorized.

According to WaPo, Trump will use an executive order to reallocate federal funds to finance the wall - or at least something more than the 55 miles that the compromise bill would finance.

Prompting some to joke...

A White House spokesman quoted by Fox reportedly insisted that Trump has "alternative options" for his border wall deal. Assuming he follows through with the plan, it looks like Trump finally got everything he wanted out of the border deal - the next step of the wall will be built, and the government will remain open.
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After telling reporters that he was "not happy" with the compromise border-security bill (which reportedly included some funding for "a barrier"), President Trump will reportedly set aside his dissatisfaction and vote for the bill anyway, according to CNN.




To avert another shutdown, Congress must pass - and the president must sign - the deal by Friday.

The compromise includes $1.375 billion for 55 miles of border barrier, which falls well short of the $5.7 billion Trump had originally demanded. It's also below the $1.6 billion proposal included in a Senate package last year. Though reports have suggested that Trump is still seriously considering going the 'national emergency' route.

Despite his dissatisfaction with the deal, Trump on Tuesday touted the fact that the deal included $23 billion in border security funding...
 
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if he signs off on this, then I say the following:


yep, the great negotiator once again gets his ass handed to him by a girl................

too funny,

all bluster and no real action


plainly, most should be able to finally see that he is nothing but a TOOL.
 
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yep, the great negotiator once again gets his ass handed to him by a girl................

too funny,

all bluster and no real action

@#$#@ him and the horse he came riding in on

plainly, most should be able to finally see that he is nothing but a TOOL.

Looking like hes a lame duck one termer now
 

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Why shut the.g0v down gain & have all the shut down workers get paid anyway? This was what was going to happen all along, first the rino's wouldn't support him & now everyone expects the socialists to negotiate in good faith, never was & never will happen with the scum congress.
Correct me if I'm wrong, didn't the scum Pelosi say, Not a cent for the wall?
He got a few billion & will have to declare emergency to get the remainder of the funds.
Remember the quote, "you can't deal with people with no money," you can't deal with these scumbags as they want to keep their voting block growing.
If he doesn't declare or fund it some way, I recommend everyone buy firearms & ammo while it's still cheap.
 
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I agree but he made himself look like a fool with all his spouting off and they will stop him from using money from somewhere else. He;s toast

Why shut the.g0v down gain & have all the shut down workers get paid anyway? This was what was going to happen all along, first the rino's wouldn't support him & now everyone expects the socialists to negotiate in good faith, never was & never will happen with the scum congress.
He got a few billion & will have to declare emergency to get the funds.
Remember the quote, "you can't deal with people with no money," you can't deal with these scumbags as they want to keep their voting block growing.
If he doesn't declare or fund it some way, I recommend everyone buy firearms & ammo while it's still cheap.
 

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'$23 Billion for Border Security': Trump Touts Border Wall to Be Funded Anyway

US President Donald Trump said Tuesday that he was presented with "the concept and parameters of the Border Security Deal" by US Senator Richard Shelby.

Trump hinted in a tweet on Tuesday that the White House managed to allocate enough money for the much-anticipated fencing on the US border with Mexico "from other sources".

Earlier on Tuesday, Shelby said lawmakers had reached an agreement on border security funding that would avert another federal government shutdown.

In particular, the bipartisan Congressional conference panel on border security has reached a deal that will include over $1.3 billion for new fencing in high-traffic areas in the state of Texas. However, earlier on Tuesday, Trump said he was not happy with the deal but expressed optimism about getting some funding to get started on his objective. The president also said it was unlikely another government stalemate would occur.

The most recent shutdown, which lasted more than a month — from December to January — was the longest in US history and affected more than 800,000 federal workers and contractors.

https://sputniknews.com/us/201902131072365698-usa-trump-border-wall-funding/



Top Republicans say Trump could still declare a national emergency to get money for the wall, even if he signs the bipartisan border-security deal

https://www.businessinsider.com/gop...er-security-deal-and-declare-emergency-2019-2

 

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Trump To Use Executive Order To Allocate More Funds To Wall, Avoiding Shutdown



by Tyler Durden

Wed, 02/13/2019 - 08:40


Update: In an interesting twist, it looks like Trump has decided on a middle path that will allow him to keep the government open while getting more of his border wall built than Congress had initially authorized.

According to WaPo, Trump will use an executive order to reallocate federal funds to finance the wall - or at least something more than the 55 miles that the compromise bill would finance.

Prompting some to joke...

A White House spokesman quoted by Fox reportedly insisted that Trump has "alternative options" for his border wall deal. Assuming he follows through with the plan, it looks like Trump finally got everything he wanted out of the border deal - the next step of the wall will be built, and the government will remain open.
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After telling reporters that he was "not happy" with the compromise border-security bill (which reportedly included some funding for "a barrier"), President Trump will reportedly set aside his dissatisfaction and vote for the bill anyway, according to CNN.




To avert another shutdown, Congress must pass - and the president must sign - the deal by Friday.

The compromise includes $1.375 billion for 55 miles of border barrier, which falls well short of the $5.7 billion Trump had originally demanded. It's also below the $1.6 billion proposal included in a Senate package last year. Though reports have suggested that Trump is still seriously considering going the 'national emergency' route.

Despite his dissatisfaction with the deal, Trump on Tuesday touted the fact that the deal included $23 billion in border security funding...
Is there a link to this article? What exactly has Trump actually signed? That would be nothing! Wait and see what he does and stop being so quick to jump at what he says
 

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I watched a YT video with Steve Green, Scott Ott and Bill Whittle, where they discussed this issue. Scott Ott, at the end of the video, related a story about himself and a local group who wanted to buy and restore an old theatre, so they went to city council asking for permits and money for the project. They walked out of the meeting with $100. His comrades were disheartened about the $100 and he asked why they were so upset. Of course, they complained about the small amount of money they had received. Scott told them that $100 was everything. The city council had given them, in essence, permission to go forward with their project with that money and just stay out of their way and not interfere. Pelosi and Schumer said there would not be a wall, but they just handed him his hundred dollar go ahead to proceed. All he has to do is fund it and four or five billion extra dollars to the US government is chump change. Trump got what he wanted and the democRats get to “save face.” They lost and DJT is going to get his wall.
 

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o kaaaayyy

Is it Friday yet?
Has anything been signed yet?
CNN reports this?


LOL

I'm waiting till the ink dries, there no reason not to but it sure is fun to read all the ideas on how this ends, there's so many to choose from :)
 

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I don't think he caved, he did the smart thing, another shutdown would have been the nail in the coffin and he knew it!
 

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I am hoping for another fed.gov shutdown, just so the SES and myriad other lecherous, treacherous layers af admin can be jettisoned from the payroll.

Trump already has the money for the wall. He is just playing with the dems and repukes.
 

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If he already has the wall money why hasnt construction started in full force?
How do you know it hasn't? I stopped believing in everything I see reported by the media. I also know they leave a ton o'shit out for the same reasons they report fake news
 
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I watched a YT video with Steve Green, Scott Ott and Bill Whittle, where they discussed this issue. Scott Ott, at the end of the video, related a story about himself and a local group who wanted to buy and restore an old theatre, so they went to city council asking for permits and money for the project. They walked out of the meeting with $100. His comrades were disheartened about the $100 and he asked why they were so upset. Of course, they complained about the small amount of money they had received. Scott told them that $100 was everything. The city council had given them, in essence, permission to go forward with their project with that money and just stay out of their way and not interfere. Pelosi and Schumer said there would not be a wall, but they just handed him his hundred dollar go ahead to proceed. All he has to do is fund it and four or five billion extra dollars to the US government is chump change. Trump got what he wanted and the democRats get to “save face.” They lost and DJT is going to get his wall.
News just stated the Border Bill is 11 thousand pages long. How much BS do you think is hidden in that bill. You can bet the dems want to tell Trump how he can spend the money and on what. The low life dems NEVER give up.
 

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News just stated the Border Bill is 11 thousand pages long. How much BS do you think is hidden in that bill. You can bet the dems want to tell Trump how he can spend the money and on what. The low life dems NEVER give up.
You need to pass it before you can know what's in it. Imagine any politician saying that with a straight face?

Actually, you don't need to imagine it...

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News just stated the Border Bill is 11 thousand pages long. How much BS do you think is hidden in that bill. You can bet the dems want to tell Trump how he can spend the money and on what. The low life dems NEVER give up.
Good point. Well, to POTUS’ credit, he stated he wanted to go through it before signing onto it to see if there were any land mines in it. I’m sure there will be something nasty hidden in there.
 

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if he signs off on this, then I say the following:


yep, the great negotiator once again gets his ass handed to him by a girl................

too funny,

all bluster and no real action


plainly, most should be able to finally see that he is nothing but a TOOL.
1. Trump said during the rally that the shutdown was important to focus the publics attention on the border problem. He accomplished that. The public has focused on it and now understand what is happening and what is at stake.
2. Trump laid out his border plan/immigration priorities in his SOTU which was well received - even by a surprising number of Dems, an overwhelming majority of independents and just about all of the Repubs.
3. Trump has said numerous times that its better for the problem to be dealt with via Congress. He has tried very, very hard to do just that. Dems have consistently stonewalled him.
4. Trump has the legal authority to proceed using an emergency order and has indicated that he will do just that.
5. Even the 9th circuit sided with Trump on a border wall issue - the law is that crystal clear on these matters. Even the 9th had to agree.
6. The emergency order was a last resort option in Trumps mind. He wanted to try everything else first. He has done that.
7. Because of the Dems intransigence - we are now at the point where the only options left are to use the emergency route...or concede defeat at the hands of the Dems.

Given the 2 choices - forecasting how this is gonna play out is childs play. Its a no brainer.

And we all know it.
 

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February 14, 2019 at 12:55 pm

Well, I’m now on the WH Comment line, waiting for at least eight minutes!
Wonder if our VSGPDJT isn’t giving these uniparty pieces of excrement rope to hang themselves and to out them to the public at large?
He’s got to know this is garbage. He and his team are getting funding from other sources, and he always has the mil to build this, if needed. BUT this bill just shows how evil BOTH sides of congress are. I’m wondering if he’s not going to publicize this all over the place, and put the mess squarely where it belongs—-at the feet of congress, SPECIFICALLY the so-called repubs!!!?



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You guys need to get with the program. The program says the Emperor's New Wall is already being built and it's great, beautiful and oh, so powerful.

No more "build the wall", ok? Now it's "finish the wall".

Sounds a lot better when seeking re-election, you know.
 

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So says fake news...

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Trump will sign spending bill and declare a national emergency, Mitch McConnell says

Jacob Pramuk,CNBC 34 minutes ago
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On Wednesday, Trump said he would look at the congressional border security legislation when it comes, then "make a determination about whether to sign it." The president will "look for landmines" in terms of provisions he dislikes, he added.
"I don't want to see a shutdown. A shutdown would be a terrible thing," he said.
Both Republicans and Democrats showed concerns about the spending plan, but congressional leaders from both parties backed it. The measure would put about $1.4 billion toward physical border barriers. But it would specifically not allow construction of new wall prototypes proposed by Trump.
Senate Republicans looked eager to avoid the second partial government shutdown since December. Without a new spending plan, funding for nine U.S. departments will lapse at 12:01 a.m. ET Saturday.
"It's time to get this done," Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said earlier Wednesday.
Despite Congress' latest blow to his border wall plans, Trump insists that he will build the structure regardless. He argues he has the authority to allocate funds from other parts of the government to construct it.
He also said he will still consider declaring a national emergency to circumvent Congress.
"The bottom line is on the wall we're building the wall and we're using other methods other than this and in addition to this," Trump said during a Cabinet meeting Tuesday.
Funding for about a quarter of the government lapsed for 35 days during December and January. About 800,000 federal employees, furloughed or working without pay, missed two paychecks during the closure. Another shutdown threatens more financial hardship for those workers.
Trump's demand for $5.7 billion to construct the wall, and Democrats' refusal to yield to him, led to the earlier shutdown. In December, Trump said he would "take the mantle" for the shutdown. Most Americans eventually did blame him for it, according to polls.
This story is developing. Please check back for updates.
 

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I was wrong he is going to sign this piece of shit. I already can't read the news without wanting to puke.
This just makes it worse.

BREAKING: President Trump Will Sign Border Security Bill and McConnell Will Support National Security Declaration…
Posted on February 14, 2019by sundance
The White House has announced that President Trump will sign the Pelosi appropriations bill that includes limited funding for border security, and will simultaneously use a National Security Declaration to shift existing funds to build a structural barrier.
Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell met with the President and announced the planfrom the senate floor before the chamber votes on the compromise bill.


.Fuck all this bullshit............
 

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I was wrong he is going to sign this piece of shit. I already can't read the news without wanting to puke.
This just makes it worse.

BREAKING: President Trump Will Sign Border Security Bill and McConnell Will Support National Security Declaration…
Posted on February 14, 2019by sundance
The White House has announced that President Trump will sign the Pelosi appropriations bill that includes limited funding for border security, and will simultaneously use a National Security Declaration to shift existing funds to build a structural barrier.
Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell met with the President and announced the planfrom the senate floor before the chamber votes on the compromise bill.


.Fuck all this bullshit............
The President gave Congress one last chance to do the right thing regarding national security.
Congress failed, not the President.
The President is only signing the bill so the government doesn't shutdown again. He said another shutdown should be avoided.
He'll declare a national emergency and continue with the wall without Congress.

Congress should be ashamed of themselves. If each of them had a family member murdered by a criminal who is here illegally, I'm not sure they would even come to their senses then.

I would be upset if the President signed the bill and then didn't proceed to continue building the wall. That isn't the case from what I read.
 

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Hold on there.... the fat lady hasn't sung yet.
An entire choir of fat women have been singing for 2 years while my head has been in the sand.
Unless he gathers everybody around and then veto's this illegal alien asskissing orgy of a pile of shit bill in front of the cameras, and then declares a state of emergency he can go to hell.


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February 14, 2019 at 4:36 pm

McConnell will support the declaration of a National Emergency…..
The same McConnell who supported the shut-down and then worked behind the scenes to end it?
The McConnell who supported the President’s plan for border security and the wall, then deliberately appointed commission members that he knew would sabotage the President?
That McConnell?


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She'll declare a national emergency and continue with free healthcare without Congress.

Congress should be ashamed of themselves. If each of them had a family member who died because they couldn’t afford healthcare, I'm not sure they would even come to their senses then.

I would be upset if the President signed the bill and then didn't proceed to continue her drive for free healthcare. That isn't the case from what I read.
Careful what you wish for.
 

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Careful what you wish for.
You are dishonest when you change what I said and make it appear like you are just quoting what I said.
You can edit all you want but admit to it so everyone knows.

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I said no such thing.
 

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February 14, 2019 at 4:36 pm

McConnell will support the declaration of a National Emergency…..
The same McConnell who supported the shut-down and then worked behind the scenes to end it?
The McConnell who supported the President’s plan for border security and the wall, then deliberately appointed commission members that he knew would sabotage the President?
That McConnell?


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So lets review, President is trying to do the right thing and congress is stabbing him in the back and screwing the American people at the same time. Got it. Sorry better with Trump, than without no even if too much opposition. This bill is really the anti -Trump 2020 campaign by forcing him to distance himself from his supporters, thanks for praying Grassley ( oops dang Congress again). Choice is clear to me sorry.
 

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An entire choir of fat women have been singing for 2 years while my head has been in the sand.
Unless he gathers everybody around and then veto's this illegal alien asskissing orgy of a pile of shit bill in front of the cameras, and then declares a state of emergency he can go to hell.


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Okay, who did what with Irons? This must be an imposter.

:dduck:
 

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I am hoping for another fed.gov shutdown, just so the SES and myriad other lecherous, treacherous layers af admin can be jettisoned from the payroll.

Trump already has the money for the wall. He is just playing with the dems and repukes.
RIFs - Reductions in Force can be put on SES and others. That would free up big salary money reducing those SES talking heads dept. that Obama expanded immensely .
I like the idea of IF ( BIG if) the feds can find El Chapo's finances confiscate those and earmark 2/3s for Wall Building( MEXICO will have built the wall then) and 1/3 for drug rehab. No Leftists in their politically correct mind would turn down that third for drug rehabilitation programs. Especially when it is money they were not planning on.
 

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Sorry to say I think Q will be shown to have been a DNC operative working to keep the right happy while the left and the deep state finish their attack on Trump