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Tuna (Albacore) fishing has been slow. Bad weather & boat shy fish have made for low fish counts. In spite of that, my boat has landed 59 albies so far, in 4 trips, well above the running average for the area. Trips are running 145/170 miles round trip & 12/14 hr. Days. The fish are running from 14 to 30 lbs. With a few touching on 35/40 lbs.

On the good side, the ocean has been extremely smooth for the days that we got out. Some days were quite foggy, requiring radar.

Coming home at 40 MPH

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Getting ice on board. The truck load was for 3 boats, about 350 lbs for each boat
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A large ship in our fishing area, about 52 miles out.
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Sunrise about 30 miles out
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Sunset, about 20 miles out
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Whale blowing, we saw several whales this day.
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Taez,
How about some info on your boat? Electronics? Performance? Plus any non confidentail details on how you fish. This isn't THT, but us right coasters can always appreciate a good tuna story!
 

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Check that catch with a Geiger counter.
 

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Commercial or fun fishing?
 

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He has to stay out. Running in and out takes half the total time?
So, How much beer does a guy have to store in the hold? Oh, enough to get drank as the fish take up the space previously occupied. OH, come on! they are trucking in the ice....talk about a cold box.

not b'n mean at all.... just figuring how many cases to pack. ya know there is a pork chop in every can of that barley soup.
 

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This is for fun only.
Each trip is an individual day. We run back home each day, as you cannot trust the Oregon ocean.
Taez,
How about some info on your boat? Electronics? Performance? Plus any non confidentail details on how you fish. This isn't THT, but us right coasters can always appreciate a good tuna story!
No secrets, I've been doing this for 55 years. I share all data. My boat is my 2nd Skipjack 25, I owned the very first one ever made. This is the first one, a 1978.
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OK, here is a one day catch for two of us on board.

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The present is a 1989. They came with Volvo diesels & I converted my latest one to outboards. I designed my own bracket & had a boat manufacturer build the bracket & install the engines, dual Yamaha 200 HP, 4 cylinder, 4 stroke.
I get the same over all mileage with the new outboards as I did with the diesel, 2 MPG.
I cruise at 35 to 40 MPH & my top speed is 51 MPH. Electronics are Simrad Evo 2, 12 inch screen, 24 mile radar, auto pilot with remote control. My fish finder is Simrad with an Airmar B175, 1KW, flush mount thru hull brass transducer, with high chirp technology. Yes, this a high tech. old hull, but it can take far more ocean than I can.
We troll 7-9 knots using many different lures. One of the best is a stupid simple one called a Cedar Plug (AKA "broomstick") we also use Mexican flag, Zucchini, Mean Joe Green, Black/purple & many more. I troll 5 at a time in a "V" pattern.
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Check that catch with a Geiger counter.
No fear, these tuna are clean & the shashimi is delish !!

Mikey 59, you won't like my rules. No alcohol, No smoking- but have fun & catch fish !!!

BTW, I try to head gaff only, we bleed them & gut & gill within 20 minutes of the catch & pack in ice.

This tuna is first class.
 

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Taezzer,
Now that was a proper write up! (my best goldduck)

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Have considered converting an inboard and have always wondered how the hull handles before and after in different seas? Of course the longest argument in the fishing planet, did you notice a difference in production inboard vs. outboard?

Right on board with your no smoking/drinking policies, off shore you just never have any idea what the day will bring. This year fishing off Quepos, we had a dead calm day, literally six inch roll terribly stinking hot, when out of the blue a 15 to 20 footer just rolled on in. Fortunately, the captain saw it and adjusted because we were trolling parallel to it and it would have rolled that 28 for sure. No idea why they happen but they do!
 

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Last time I was out on the Ocean was 37 years ago but then I don't live on the coast now. yeah that boat was a 28foot Lancer; the primary sheets though were attached to a 14foot sunfish. Sure loved that little boat, used to go out and watch the wales migrate back to Mexico. Twas nothing better than having the little cockpit full of beer and bait. What is that saying from "Suspicious Observer" that Searcher likes to post....? Oh yeah-No Fear.
 

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Have considered converting an inboard and have always wondered how the hull handles before and after in different seas? Of course the longest argument in the fishing planet, did you notice a difference in production inboard vs. outboard?

Right on board with your no smoking/drinking policies, off shore you just never have any idea what the day will bring. This year fishing off Quepos, we had a dead calm day, literally six inch roll terribly stinking hot, when out of the blue a 15 to 20 footer just rolled on in. Fortunately, the captain saw it and adjusted because we were trolling parallel to it and it would have rolled that 28 for sure. No idea why they happen but they do!
Sneaker waves are not that uncommon, they are nasty. I watched one damned near sink a boat that was not paying attention. Never turn your back on the ocean !!

I grew up with outboards, & my first 3 boats were out boards, so the conversion was not a problem for me. The conversion is one of my best accomplishments.

Here is how we tied the bracket into the old diesel engine stringers.
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Rear view
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Side view
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Prefitting the bracket prior to powdercoating it.
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The brack in the raw.
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The handling is stellar, the accelleration is wonderful. Zero to full plane in 5 seconds, zero to 50 in 8 seconds. When trimmed peoperly, it rides flat & smooth. The boat will also stop faster than you can believe. BTW, the boat with full fuel & 3 people on board weighs in at 9,000 lbs. The only caution is turning at high speed, over 35 MPH, I turn wide.

If you want tp PM me with your boat data, I can help you decide on the repower.

BTW, I tried an aluminum boat in Oregon, as they are very popular. It scared the hell out of me. They are NOT my kind of ocean boat. They are way too shallow & the bow is a bath tub, waiting to fill with ocean !!!

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Nice catch Taezzar! I will take my little stringer of bait and go home now...
Just curious , what other species of fish do you catch , any halibut or salmon?..
We get salmon, halibut, rock cod, ling cod, cabezon & dungeness crab.
The rules are complicated & authority for the sake of authority( in my opinion) halibut fishing is so over regulated that I don't bother with it, Salmon fishing is close to it too, but I will salmon fish when they are hot.

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38 lb salmon, accidenitally caught while jigging for ling cod !!! LOLOLOL
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Taezzer,
Man that mounting and bracket are a work of art, great job. So I'm guessing those 200's weigh around 550#'s each, and look to be overhung around 20" did that cause much of an issue on your weight distribution or did you shift your fuel, water or cooler to accommodate? Averaging 2 mpg and hitting 51 WOT with an outfitted 9000#'s is really great, you must have found the sweet spot!
 

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I stand corrected on the day trips. If it was Florida and I had that boat and time you would see me return to port on the weekends.

I took my step-sons and wife out last weekend on a drift boat off Stuart, FL. The kids got bored because they are not real fishermen. I grew up on a lake in Florida and have been fishing for over 40 years. I caught 4 Florida sea bass and 1 amberjack. The boat was too crowded, but one guy got a nice sailfish and another got a cobia. There were several others too and no sharks.

I don't have any pics, but the kids love fresh fish. Who doesn't?
 

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Taezzer,
Man that mounting and bracket are a work of art, great job. So I'm guessing those 200's weigh around 550#'s each, and look to be overhung around 20" did that cause much of an issue on your weight distribution or did you shift your fuel, water or cooler to accommodate? Averaging 2 mpg and hitting 51 WOT with an outfitted 9000#'s is really great, you must have found the sweet spot!
Thank you, BE. I worked on the design for a couple of months. I started by analysing a friends boat bracket that was really bad. It pulled the back of his boat into the ocean to the point of his engines running 1/2 submeged in the ocean. I looked at Armstrong brackets & didn't like them ether. So I started from scratch & designed mine like an extension of the hull, stupid, huh ?? A friend's brother is a great boat builder, he works out of his garage & makes some awsum boats. We worked together & ended up with a bracket that really performs. You are spot on with the engine weight (same as the Volvo Penta Diesel/dual prop, that came out). The engines are cantilevered 31 inches off the transom, BUT the bracket being a hull extension, gives support under way. There was no redistribution of weight necessary & it would have been near impossible anyway.
I get a lot of compliments on the launch ramp & from the folks that live up on the bluff that watch the boats come in.
BTW, the 2 MPG is not at 51 MPH, that is my over all average when I behave myself.

I stand corrected on the day trips. If it was Florida and I had that boat and time you would see me return to port on the weekends.

I took my step-sons and wife out last weekend on a drift boat off Stuart, FL. The kids got bored because they are not real fishermen. I grew up on a lake in Florida and have been fishing for over 40 years. I caught 4 Florida sea bass and 1 amberjack. The boat was too crowded, but one guy got a nice sailfish and another got a cobia. There were several others too and no sharks.

I don't have any pics, but the kids love fresh fish. Who doesn't?
Nick, when I lived in So. Calif., I would go out of Point Loma, San Diego on Friday night. We would run all night until purple morning & start trolling. That would put us down below Ensenada, Mex. We would spend 2 nights on the ocean & go into Ensenada for fuel to get back home. Believe it or not, I get more albacore on a day trip here, than I got on those grueling long ocean trips. But it is ALL fun !!!

I nominate this Thread Of The Month.
Thank You very much, search, that's one helluva compliment !!
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Boaters love Yamaha outboards. When I was out last weekend they must have been on 75% of the boats I saw off Stuart and on the Indian River. My dad had twin Volvo Pentas on his POS boat. That thing always broke down or caught fire even after expensive rebuilds ($3000) in 1970s dollars.
 

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For those not quite so familiar with repowering inboard to outboard, what Taez accomplished would win accolades over at the hull truth. Frankly, when attempted most often its never the same, and often the builder will disgustingly pull the outboards, scrap the hull and strap those puppies on an outboard hull needing retrofitting.

I am with you searcher.... thread of the month
 

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For those not quite so familiar with repowering inboard to outboard, what Taez accomplished would win accolades over at the hull truth. Frankly, when attempted most often its never the same, and often the builder will disgustingly pull the outboards, scrap the hull and strap those puppies on an outboard hull needing retrofitting.

I am with you searcher.... thread of the month
Exactamundo. Hulls designed for inboards are different than those for outboards. To get it right requires more than luck. I would have went with a different hull myself, but what we have here is a convertible!

 

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I would have went with a different hull myself
A little more explanation would be nice.
Here is my reasoning:
The hull I used is a proven open ocean hull ( Skipjack hulls are far better than 99% of other trailerable I/O hulls). I have messed with boats, inboard & outboard, for most of my life. The only possible difference that I can think of, other than general strength, is transom strength. Outboards require a stronger tramsom due to the height of engine placement & the resultant moment produced at the base of the transom. I/O's are generally a stronger hull, due to the engine being placed inside the hull. I/O's do not put much of a load on the transom. That was the reason for the inner brackets tying into the old diesel engine stringers. I run out over 50 miles in the ocean, with total confidence that my boat will return to port.
 

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After I wrote that, I thought my reply could look critical, I was simply replying to your comment with a full explanation.
Peace !
 

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We needs more pictures of your catch!!!! It was difficult keeping the kids entertained unless I hooked the fish myself and handed the pole to one of them. The one plays basketball and the other plays guitar, but neither could fish if their life depended on it.
 

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We needs more pictures of your catch!!!! It was difficult keeping the kids entertained unless I hooked the fish myself and handed the pole to one of them. The one plays basketball and the other plays guitar, but neither could fish if their life depended on it.
OK, nick, here ya go

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Here are some more pic's.
We crab in the ocean & a couple of technical pic's, LOL
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I used to go shrimping off Ft. Lauderdale. You can even go inside Port Everglades. All you need is a dip next and bright light plus a bucket for the catch. Just stand on the seawall and wait for them to swim in with the tide. By boat we would dip in the ocean with a string of lights all around. Cannot get any fresher than that.
 

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Nice, we love fresh shrimp.
Now that I have a power puller for my crab pots, shrimping is on my to learn list.
Here it's done in the ocean in several hundred feet of water.
 

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Ask around the docks where the skrimps come in and wait for high tide. I still see old timers on the side of the road early in the morning with a stocked cooler in the back of their pickup and a cardboard sign that reads Fresh Shrimp.

It used to be $5/pound heads on, but I don't know what it is now.