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Service calls are pretty much non existent these days, so they have me running 4 construction jobs right now. Here are some minisplits for a bank install last week. Engineered plan had them all blowing right into each other. Built a rack out of strut, so they would all blow away from each other. On hot days they would have tripped on high head pressure.

Pain in the ass they are.

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Usually when we did our final inspections we would have the appropriate engineer inspect each system, it provided a opportunity to point out field issues and fixes to young engineers so they became better in the future and got them on record as approving the final installation....
 

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I get that tazz, but a faulty install is a faulty install,

if one is to teach, then one should show them a properly installed system as Davy states, then show them the plan and how they were wrong

then too, many times they spec a piece of equip without looking for direction of fan etc, only outside dims and capacity.

orientation is a big thing, doesn't matter resi or commercial
 

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Like @Ironpig says, " Nothings easy, nothin'."
 

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I get that tazz, but a faulty install is a faulty install,

if one is to teach, then one should show them a properly installed system as Davy states, then show them the plan and how they were wrong

then too, many times they spec a piece of equip without looking for direction of fan etc, only outside dims and capacity.

orientation is a big thing, doesn't matter resi or commercial
The "engineer's" heads are likely to swollen at this point to be taught anything anymore.
 

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I get that tazz, but a faulty install is a faulty install,

if one is to teach, then one should show them a properly installed system as Davy states, then show them the plan and how they were wrong

then too, many times they spec a piece of equip without looking for direction of fan etc, only outside dims and capacity.

orientation is a big thing, doesn't matter resi or commercial

...LOL...i think my post didnt come out right.....we fixed their mistakes during the installs but then made them approve the revised installation.....we always made the engineers inspect and sign off on all trades that were in the engineered drawings...structureal thru electrical.......IE field inspect and approve the
"as-built" drawings that way we were protected if it was a life safety issue. and they got a free lesson...what was really fun was when it cost more to correct their mistakes as that brought on a whole new set of issues because then the expected you to fix their mistakes on your dime because we should have known there "intent"
 

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yep, you bring up a great point,

as many companies hope and pray for just this situation,
they install the original, then tell them it won't work,

then comes the change orders
 

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Today worked at a building that was looted during the riots. The building owner hired an armed guard to stand outside the entire day to keep the workers safe. They have to pay him from 6:00AM to 6:00 PM. Every day I get less and less desire to use my skills to keep this city running.

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I couldn't bring myself to bid on rehab projects that were through HUD grants after realizing that 95% were just putting money into failing neighbourhoods. Sure the house may look better and he safer but the value never increased.
 

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...LOL...i think my post didnt come out right.....we fixed their mistakes during the installs but then made them approve the revised installation.....we always made the engineers inspect and sign off on all trades that were in the engineered drawings...structureal thru electrical.......IE field inspect and approve the
"as-built" drawings that way we were protected if it was a life safety issue. and they got a free lesson...what was really fun was when it cost more to correct their mistakes as that brought on a whole new set of issues because then the expected you to fix their mistakes on your dime because we should have known there "intent"
That's how I read it ttaz.
 

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when I first saw this random photo , my first thought was that there are to many stringers for those steps

but hey , I’m a cement finisher , not a carpenter , although I can set step forms and pour and finish them too , along with curb and gutter forms , sidewalk forms , etc....

so I thought I would ask the experts


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